SR2 is seriously S---L---O---W with OS 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard)

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Sep 15 2012 11:03 AM

Lots of spinning pizza! Not in loading, which is normal speed, but in changing tabs or changing verse references it is pedestrian – almost stationary. It hasn't been this slow since the early Alpha days.

Devs, vanish the spinning pizza and you get Pizza a slice of the action!!

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 11:10 AM

Is this what I reported here BUG: L4 Mac 4.6 Beta 5—Spinning beachball ?

Mine seems to have improved a bit with the upgrade to Lion

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 11:22 AM

Jack

That's exactly what I'm getting! I see you had the problem with the Beta. Surely it should be fixed for the SR! Sad

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 12:48 PM

Alan Macgregor:
I see you had the problem with the Beta. Surely it should be fixed for the SR! Sad

Maybe it takes longer for the improvement to swim the Atlantic Big Smile

When I made the posts in that thread, I was taking a lot of notes from many commentaries. Since then, I have mostly been turning the  notes into a composition. Given that, perhaps the improvement comes from a change in the way I am using Logos.

Additionally, back then I had one commentary from each commentary collection open and synched together—That was seven commentaries plus a few Bibles. Since then, I just link a few Bibles, have three custom, unlinked PGs, and a large open area mid-screen to open a commentary. I cycle through the collection and open whatever other sets I believe will provide useful info on the passage in question.

That has likely done more to speed operations than anything else.

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Randall Cue | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 12:53 PM

Alan, I'm running snow leopard and I am not getting the problems that you describe. I hope yours will be solved soon.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 2:49 PM

I presume this is the same issue that I reported Wednesday, without anyone noticing it: 4.6 SR-1: Performance way below unbearable -- beach ball after EVERY click or keystroke. I'm essentially dead in the water.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 4:24 PM

fgh:

I presume this is the same issue that I reported Wednesday, without anyone noticing it: 4.6 SR-1: Performance way below unbearable -- beach ball after EVERY click or keystroke. I'm essentially dead in the water.

Looks like the same problem, but yours is much more severe. Hope L4 Mac dev is paying attention.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 4:38 PM

Jack Caviness:
Hope L4 Mac dev is paying attention.

So do I, but given the complete lack of response, I doubt it. Ever since 4.6 shipped Logos' presence in the Mac forum has gone from bad to nearly non existent.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 4:58 PM

Alan Macgregor:
Lots of spinning pizza!

One cause for spinning pizza is swapping; am curious about page outs ?  Wiki => http://wiki.logos.com/Mac_Troubleshooting#Slow_Performance includes a screen shot of Activity Monitor that shows System Memory and Page Outs.

Apologies: unable to replicate spinning pizza using Logos 4.6 SR-2 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 on a 27" iMac.  

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 5:10 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
One cause for spinning pizza is swapping

I don't know for sure if Alan's issue is the same as mine, obviously, but if you look in my thread you will see that swapping isn't mine.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 15 2012 8:37 PM

fgh:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
One cause for spinning pizza is swapping

I don't know for sure if Alan's issue is the same as mine, obviously, but if you look in my thread you will see that swapping isn't mine.

Concur swapping is not your issue; am wondering about sync lag times across the Atlantic Ocean, which could be tested by using a network proxy in Europe.

Edit: Wonder how offline performance of Logos 4.6 SR-2 compares ? 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 3:32 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
 Wonder how offline performance of Logos 4.6 SR-2 compares ? 

What would be the purpose of having an application with synching abilities and then using it disconnected from the cloud? The solution is better programming, not using the application in a crippled mode.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 9:36 AM

Jack Caviness:
What would be the purpose of having an application with synching abilities and then using it disconnected from the cloud? The solution is better programming, not using the application in a crippled mode.

True, but it's a good diagnostic tool. I tried it, and as you can see in my thread, it was as bad offline as it was online. So, at least for me, syncing wasn't the issue after all (though no doubt it could be improved). Having read KS4J's posts I'm guessing he'll be as surprised at that as I am.

Now, if Alan gets the same result we won't be any wiser, but if his performance should turn out to be much better offline, then even I can figure out that we're likely to suffer from two different issues, however similar the symptoms are.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 10:57 AM

fgh:

Jack Caviness:
What would be the purpose of having an application with synching abilities and then using it disconnected from the cloud? The solution is better programming, not using the application in a crippled mode.

True, but it's a good diagnostic tool.

True, guess I misread the suggestion Embarrassed As a diagnostic tool, it would be good, but as an operational method, it would stink

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 11:46 AM

Jack Caviness:
as an operational method, it would stink

Well, yes, but right now I'd prefer a 'stinking' operational method to an essentially non-functional one...

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 17 2012 8:36 PM

fgh:
Having read KS4J's posts I'm guessing he'll be as surprised at that as I am.

Surprise = yes; so know that swapping and long distance network lag times are not seriously S---L---O---W.

Seem to remember one Logos 4 Mac user improving performance by clearing history (Tools => History => Clear), which could be done periodically.

Personally have diagnostic logging always enabled, which also affects program execution.  In theory should be able to turn off logging for a speed boost.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 18 2012 6:02 PM

Alan, if you still have this issue, try clearing out History. It helped me.

KS4J, I thanked you on the other thread.

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Kurt Fenton | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 24 2012 5:04 PM

Count me as another very frustrated user! I don't write much on the forum, but I use Logos heaps...that is until now. I spend more time watching the beach ball than anything else. Maybe if Logos takes a break from trying to get us to buy more resources, and spends the time getting what we have working, I might be interested in buying more. But for now, it seems like money down the drain... a clogged drain!

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Alan Macgregor | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 25 2012 12:11 PM

fgh:

Alan, if you still have this issue, try clearing out History. It helped me.

KS4J, I thanked you on the other thread.

Thanks! Big Smile

Clearing out History has speeded things up. I'll just have to remember to do it from time to time! Hmm

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 25 2012 12:22 PM

Alan Macgregor:
I'll just have to remember to do it from time to time! Hmm

Yeah, our problems are obviously not important enough for Logos to notice...

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