Bible Version in FSB
Which version of the Bible is used for quotes and comments in the FaithLife Study Bible's notes?
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Charles C.G. Miller said:
Which version of the Bible is used for quotes and comments in the FaithLife Study Bible's notes?
I'm not sure if there is a particular base.
Links to Bible references will go to your preferred Bible and the comment headings track the Bible you are using - assuming it is a reverse interlinear
This is shown in the two screenshots below - one using the NKJV and the other using the ESV
As you can see the section headings in the FSB track the words in the selected Bible - see "darkness did not comprehend it" / "darkness did not overcome it" in verse 5.
But not sure I'm answering the question you're asking. If not please clarify
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It's based on the Lexham English Bible, I believe
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Charles C.G. Miller said:
Which version of the Bible is used for quotes and comments in the FaithLife Study Bible's notes?
Adding to my two fellow MVPs: The FSB comes with the free Lexham English Bible and this is the default. However, the FSB has the unique feature that the quotes and comments dynamically reflect your highest prioritized bible - this works for a number of well-known translations.
The list is here: https://faithlifebible.com/features (translations should be the first feature to come up)
Have joy in the Lord!
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Thanks Mick
A much better explanation of what I was trying to say[:)]
Graham
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Graham Criddle said:
Thanks Mick
A much better explanation of what I was trying to say
Graham
But your screenshots showed it. My experience is: Since this is a unique feature, it's difficult to explain to people with words only. Seeing it is much better. I wouldn't have posted unless to take out the perceived discrepancy and to add the link to the list.
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In FSB, the fragment text is dynamic (that is, the what phrase are we commenting on part). In the notes themselves, any translation or reference to a word or phrase from the verse is most likely LEB or the author's rendering. But we tried to avoid quoting much in the notes. For anything other than a word or short phrase that could be given a quick, generic gloss, we would just include the Bible reference. That way the passage appears as a popup if you want it.
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Thanks to all of you! Great Thread!
Psalm 29:11
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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This seems to answer the question I intended to ask.
The first Faithlife Study Bible entry for Genesis 1: 2 reads:
1:2 formless and empty The terms tohu and bohu describe material substance lacking boundary, order, and definition. These deficiencies are remedied by God’s activity in the verses that follow.
The verse in my default Bible (English Standard Version) reads:
2 The earth was bwithout form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
What I understand from your response is that the words "formless and empty" are written by the author of this section of the Faithlife Study Bible, and may be the author's own translation or if not, most likely come from the Lexham English Bible. Please let me know if I am incorrect.
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Charles C.G. Miller said:
This seems to answer the question I intended to ask.
The first Faithlife Study Bible entry for Genesis 1: 2 reads:
1:2 formless and empty The terms tohu and bohu describe material substance lacking boundary, order, and definition. These deficiencies are remedied by God’s activity in the verses that follow.
The verse in my default Bible (English Standard Version) reads:
2 The earth was bwithout form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
What I understand from your response is that the words "formless and empty" are written by the author of this section of the Faithlife Study Bible, and may be the author's own translation or if not, most likely come from the Lexham English Bible. Please let me know if I am incorrect.
No. "Formless and empty" comes up in a number of translations, including LEB. It may be so in your case. But if you choose ESV for FSB display, this part of the text reads differently:
You may even toggle between bibles, see the red square in my screenshot.
Have joy in the Lord!
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N.B.Mick is right. If you switch FSB to display ESV fragment text, then it should match what the ESV has for the phrase. The bold text at the head of each note is the dynamic text that changes with whatever version you have FSB set to show. In the non-bold note text, it could be author's translation or LEB but I forgot that the other way we dealt with that issue was through transliteration of the original. So the note on Gen 1:2 says "tohu and bohu."
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Doug Mangum said:The bold text at the head of each note is the dynamic text that changes with whatever version you have FSB set to show.
Reviving this thread after two weeks: I'm in the process of adding some community notes to group FSB Users, predominantly in the Gospel of John (I intend to do some more), in order to help facilitating improvements in future editions. I came accross one textual instance where the editors weren't really aware of how this feature plays out. Check out John 1:34, look at the last words of the verse and use various translations.
Have joy in the Lord!
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NB.Mick, you're right. In making the notes we had LEB in front of us and consulted SBLGNT for Greek issues. This note should be tweaked to account for the variations in English versions and explain the variant in more detail. I'll add it to my review list.
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I have lost the ability to toggle different Bible versions. The menu has disappeared. Is this just me, or has Logos removed the feature?
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Steve Charles said:
I have lost the ability to toggle different Bible versions. The menu has disappeared. Is this just me, or has Logos removed the feature?
Can you provide a screenshot of the problem?
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Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:
I see the same thing - here's a screenshot
The text now seems tied to the LEB with no option to change it.
The same is true in the iPad app - the FSB text doesn't track the selected Bible (which I am fairly sure it used to)
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Thanks, I've filed a bug report.
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Thanks Bradley
Appreciated, Graham
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Thank you!
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Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:
Thanks, I've filed a bug report.
This has been fixed with a new download today - Thanks!
Have joy in the Lord!
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The updated FSB doesn't seem to fix the problem on iPad.
Should it?
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Works great! Cheers!
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On the PC anyway. I don't have an iPad.
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Graham Criddle said:
The updated FSB doesn't seem to fix the problem on iPad.
Just to follow up on this I tested it when I had access to both systems.
The first screenshot below is from my PC, the second is from my iPad. I'm using the NIV as the base text in both cases and focussing on the words "master of the banquet" in John 2:8
In the first screenshot (above) the words "master of the banquet" are shown in the FSB tracking the words used in NIV
In the second screenshot (below) the FSB has "head steward" instead - which seems to be tracking the LEB
As this now looks to be an iPad-specific issue I'll crosspost there
Edit: cross-posted at http://community.logos.com/forums/t/86271.aspx
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I am running Logos version 6.0 SR-4, and the bug has reappeared; the menu icon to change the Bible version has disappeared again. I have a Lenovo Helix running Windows 8.1.
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Steve Charles said:
the menu icon to change the Bible version has disappeared again
I've filed a bug report for this.
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Steve Charles said:
I am running Logos version 6.0 SR-4, and the bug has reappeared; the menu icon to change the Bible version has disappeared again. I have a Lenovo Helix running Windows 8.1.
This should be fixed with the update version of FSB:
LLS:FSB
2014-11-14T23:32:21Z
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I have noticed that when I change the version from default to say ESV and close Logos, when I reopen Logos the version reverts to default (which I assume is LEB). Is there a way that I can have the version remain as ESV rather than reverting to the default?
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In the examples above, using the LSB, my view does not have a marker icon, blue tab, orange dot.
What are the brackets with an arrow? They don't seem to do anything on mine. The circle with a pllus does give more info when clicked.
Are there instructions for using the features of the FSB anywhere?
Thanks,
Mike
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Michael A. Mnich said:
In the examples above, using the LSB, my view does not have a marker icon, blue tab, orange dot.
What are the brackets with an arrow? They don't seem to do anything on mine. The circle with a pllus does give more info when clicked.
The colored dots (if you refer to the screenshots on the first page) are notes - probably shared note files from a faithlife group, such as giving remarls on intertextuality. They are not part of FSB but will display in any bible and any versified bible commentary or study bible.
The brackets with the arrow are part of the FSB and show links to the free Lexham Bible Dictionary which is part of the FSB bundle. If you don't have it, go get it here: https://www.logos.com/product/36564/lexham-bible-dictionary
Have joy in the Lord!
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Randall Cue said:
I have noticed that when I change the version from default to say ESV and close Logos, when I reopen Logos the version reverts to default (which I assume is LEB). Is there a way that I can have the version remain as ESV rather than reverting to the default?
Bump
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Is there no one that can address this?
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Randall Cue said:
Hi Randall
I am not seeing this behaviour - if I close the app and reopen it the selected version is still selected.
Which version of the app are you using?
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Thanks for responding, Graham. I'm using Logos version 6.1 on a Mac OS X Yosemite 10.10.2.
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Randall Cue said:
Thanks for responding, Graham. I'm using Logos version 6.1 on a Mac OS X Yosemite 10.10.2.
Sorry I had assumed a mobile platform and that is what I tested against.
Im not at my computer now but will check tomorrow if no-one else does first
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Randall Cue said:
I have noticed that when I change the version from default to say ESV and close Logos, when I reopen Logos the version reverts to default (which I assume is LEB). Is there a way that I can have the version remain as ESV rather than reverting to the default?
I can reproduce this - hopefully someone from Faithlife will comment
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Graham, thanks for taking the time to look into this.
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Randall Cue said:
I have noticed that when I change the version from default to say ESV and close Logos, when I reopen Logos the version reverts to default (which I assume is LEB). Is there a way that I can have the version remain as ESV rather than reverting to the default?
I have filed a bug report for this
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Thanks Emma
Appreciated, Graham
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Thanks Angela. Works great.
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