Beta 3: Close All Panels button is confusing

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Willie | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 5 2017 11:35 PM

PL:

Alternately, can you just preload a Close All shortcut for new users? That way we can delete it if we don't lie it or use it.

Peter 

Preloading a "close all" command to the Shortcuts bar is a great idea Peter!  It's simple and should satisfy everyone.  I hope Faithlife considers this instead of the button.

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James McAdams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 6 2017 5:09 AM

I much prefer having it as a button independent of my own shortcuts, for what it's worth - I did have it in my own in the shortcut bar, but it felt a bit less polished, plus I'd forget it was there, nestled as it was among the other shortcuts I'd made for myself.

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Martin Folley | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 6 2017 5:27 AM

James McAdams:
but it felt a bit less polished

I agree with this. I think that this is partly because to icon set available fr our own shortcuts is so limited. Custom icons would be nice!

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 6 2017 5:28 AM

I would rather have a different design- the location is fine- but thus would be fine it offers a lot of contrast to surrounding  work area.

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Willie | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 6 2017 2:59 PM

Whyndell Grizzard:

I would rather have a different design- the location is fine- but thus would be fine it offers a lot of contrast to surrounding  work area.

With no offense intended, due to my own particular eye sensitivities, I would find a red button like this extremely distracting and uncomfortable to the point of adversely affecting my use of the program.  If a toolbar button must be used, my eyes would tolerate the present beta version fine (non-distracting light grey color, small, simple design).    

I realize that visual acuity, eye sensitivities, and other eye health issues, are different for each of us.  For example, some users might prefer bold or high contrast colored buttons, while for me, this would be distracting and cause eye discomfort.  This is one reason why I advocate user controlled options to hide individual toolbar buttons if one desires. 

Perhaps Faithlife could some day allow users to customize the desktop screen by selecting our own toolbar button choices from a set of available images (similar to the way the Shortcuts bar can be built now only with more choices).  Does anyone know of any technical obstacles which would prevent this from ever being considered?      

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 6 2017 5:08 PM

And thats ok really the color they use is irrelevant- its the design of it which makes it different than the surrounding elements- blue, light blu, green, yellow- any color would be fine.

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 6 2017 5:41 PM

Whyndell Grizzard:
any color would be fine

Grey, please, to match everything else in the toolbar. We don't need one particular layout button to unnecessarily draw attention to itself.

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Willie | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 6 2017 6:54 PM

PetahChristian:

Grey, please, to match everything else in the toolbar. We don't need one particular layout button to unnecessarily draw attention to itself.

Very well stated!  I agree 100%.

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Whyndell Grizzard | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 7 2017 4:58 AM

PetahChristian:

Whyndell Grizzard:
any color would be fine

Grey, please, to match everything else in the toolbar. We don't need one particular layout button to unnecessarily draw attention to itself.

Then leave as is.

I like to make my own personally- contrasting colors works best for different things- I don't use their version- my tool bar version:

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 13 2017 9:32 PM

Faithlife,

If you're not going to change the location of the Close All button, can you please add a confirmation prompt before actually closing all the panels?

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Sean | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 13 2017 10:00 PM

I'm not a beta guy & I don't have opinions on the location but please PLEASE PLEASE! work this into the next release!

Mark Barnes:

I was just glad to see a "Close All" button, after eight years without one! I use my "Close All" shortcut all the time. I don't really mind where it goes, although I don't think it should be hidden in a menu.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 5:08 AM

PL:
If you're not going to change the location of the Close All button, can you please add a confirmation prompt before actually closing all the panels?

There's now an 'undo' option, on the Layout menu (i.e. closing all will save the existing layout as a snapshot, which you can easily restore).

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 14 2017 8:42 AM

Mark Barnes:

PL:
If you're not going to change the location of the Close All button, can you please add a confirmation prompt before actually closing all the panels?

There's now an 'undo' option, on the Layout menu (i.e. closing all will save the existing layout as a snapshot, which you can easily restore).

Great! Now hook that up to Cmd Z and we will all be happy.  :-)

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jim kerr | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 29 2017 3:28 PM

More than confusing, it is completely unnecessary. There has always been a way to create this button if you want it (can't image a need for it myself). The placement is foolish and makes me question the designers' competence.

If you're not going to remove it entirely, Logos, at least allow us to remove it or disable it individually.

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Levi Durfey | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 29 2017 3:43 PM

jim kerr:
Logos, at least allow us to remove it or disable it individually.

I am not too happy with the close all button either. However, clicking on it does automatically save a snapshot of your layout before closing everything, so it's relatively easy to recover if you do accidentally click on it.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 30 2017 5:13 AM

Levi Durfey:
it's relatively easy to recover if you do accidentally click on it.

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