SUGGESTION: Popular Patristics series by St. Vladimir's Seminary Press
St Gregory the Great - Book of Pastoral Rule, The
Mark the Monk - Counsels on the Spiritual Life
St John Chrysostom - Cult of the Saints, The
St Symeon the New Theologian - Divine Eros Hymns of St Symeon the New Theologian
St Gregory of Nazianzus - Festal Orations
John A. McGuckin - Harp of Glory: An African Akathist
Barsanuphius and John - Letters from the Desert
St Isaac of Nineveh - On Ascetical Life
St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Christ
St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Man (Gregory)
St John Chrysostom - On Marriage and Family Life
Melito of Sardis - On Pascha
St Basil the Great - On Social Justice
Hippolytus - On the Apostolic Tradition
St Cyril of Jerusalem - On the Christian Sacraments
St Maximus the Confessor - On the Cosmic Mystery of Jesus Christ
St Germanus of Constantinople - On the Divine Liturgy
Brian E. Daley, ed. - On the Dormition of Mary
St Theodore the Studite - On the Holy Icons
St Basil the Great - On the Human Condition
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I wholeheartedly agree, on this and just about any other Patristic resources.
Though it's not like you haven't suggested them before [:D]: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/16018.aspx, http://community.logos.com/forums/p/9339/74468.aspx#74468.
In that spirit, and in the hope that this thread is read by people interested in Patristics, may I hope for some more votes for these books as well: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/25246.aspx.
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[Y][Y][Y] - Provided that Logos would include the other volumes in the series:
St Athanasius – On the Incarnation
Alistair Stewart-Sykes, trans. – On
the Lord's PrayerJacob of Serug – On the Mother of God
St Symeon the New Theologian – On the
Mystical Life, vol. ISt Symeon the New Theologian – On the
Mystical Life, vol. IISt Symeon the New Theologian – On the
Mystical Life, vol. IIISt John Chrysostom – On the
PriesthoodSt Gregory of Nyssa – On the Soul and
ResurrectionJohn McGuckin, tran. – On the Unity
of ChristCatherine P. Roth, trans. – On Wealth
and PovertySt John of Damascus – Three Treatises
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fgh said:
Though it's not like you haven't suggested them before
Hey, I'm a mother so I get to nag[:P] Especially when we seem to be getting more support for materials from mainline Protestants, Lutherans, Anglicans and Catholics.. The other alternative is for Logos to give me the PBB capability
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Hendrik-Jan van der Wal said:
- Provided that Logos would include the other volumes in the series:If you thought that made the list complete, you were wrong. [:)] For example, as far as I can see none of you have mentioned St Basil the Great: On the Holy Spirit, which definitely exists, since I'm holding it in my hand right now. Can't find it on St Vladimir's webpage either, though, so I guess it's out of print. And if there's one that's out of print, there's probably more.
MJ. Smith said:Hey, I'm a mother so I get to nag [:P]
Certainly, when you're nagging about good books like these. [:)] I keep 'nagging' about my books as well, by posting links whenever I find an excuse. Can't seem to whip up much support, though. [:(]
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fgh said:
so I guess it's out of print. And if there's one that's out of print, there's probably more.
Yes, they do allow books to go out of print frequently - as do the Cistercians who also publish much I like. If they would only publish in Logos, they wouldn't have to go out of print. Maybe we should flood the publishers with a crowd of would be buyers chanting (synchronized e-mails, of course) No OUP; No OUp with an occasional Logos forever thrown in.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Maybe we should flood the publishers
Maybe someone should put together a list with e-mail addresses to all the interesting publishers with few or no books in Logos, so that we could do some 'flooding'? And web links, so that we can easily check out what to ask for. And a sample e-mail or two to make it really easy for people to actually get it done, and not put it on their ever-growing to-do-lists.
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fgh said:
And if there's one that's out of print, there's probably more.
If it turns out that there are more volumes by Syriac authors, I'll want one of those sample e-mails to send to St. Vladimir's Seminary Press. [:)]
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Hendrik-Jan van der Wal said:
If it turns out that there are more volumes by Syriac authors, I'll want one of those sample e-mails to send to St. Vladimir's Seminary Press.
Amazon seems to have some not mentioned earlier. I didn't take the time to make an exact comparison, but I noticed a couple of Coptic titles and one or two others I didn't recognize from here. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=%22Popular+Patristics%22&x=0&y=0
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What I sent to St. Vladimir's Press and Bob:
Dear Sirs;
A number of Logos Bible software users have requested that more Orthodox texts be offered by Logos. At this time, the market for books in Logos format is highly skewed towards the Evangelicals. However, we have noted that Patristic offerings seem to be very successful. At the same time, those of us familiar with the Popular Patristics series see that books frequently go out of print. Several of us active in the Logos forums see a real opportunity for Logos, St. Vladimir's and the users. Would you consider putting the Popular Patristic series into Logos?=====
I have already heard back from both parties. St. Vladimir's wrote in part: "I am not personally familiar with the Logos Bible software, but this is an intriguing idea." Bob P. wrote in part: "We're certainly open to it; we'd love to have more books from many perspectives. I'm copying our head of publisher relations." Sounds to me like there's a good chance that the idea will at least be explored.
Note I took a very concrete approach rather than stating I'd like everything from St. Vladmir's[:D]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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The first presses that come to my mind for additional Logos partners:
- Cistercian Publications http://www.cistercianpublications.org/
- Light and Life Publishing http://www.light-n-life.com/
- Conciliar Press http://www.conciliarpress.com/ Farley's Commentary would be a nice addition
- The Alpha (formerly COePA) http://www.thealpha.org/
- Chrysostom Press http://www.chrysostompress.org/ Blessed Theophylact of Ochrid's commentary would be wonderful
- Medieval Institute Publications http://www.wmich.edu/medieval/mip/index.html
- Catholic University of America Press http://cuapress.cua.edu/
for fgh:
- Paulist Press http://www.paulistpress.com/
- Ignatius Press http://www.ignatius.com/
- Sheed and Ward http://www.rowmanlittlefield.com/Sheed/
- SCM Canterbury Press http://www.scm-canterburypress.co.uk/
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
St. Vladimir's wrote in part: "I am not personally familiar with the Logos Bible software, but this is an intriguing idea."
In other words: your earlier attempts to suggest this series has probably not resulted in Logos contacting the publisher. Keep nagging! [:D]
MJ. Smith said:Note I took a very concrete approach rather than stating I'd like everything from St. Vladmir's
Just don't be too modest. We need Lossky and Ware as well, which I believe have been published by them (among others). And just to promote a little Swedish influence, let me suggest Lars Thunberg's Man and the Cosmos. The Vision of St Maximus the Confessor (or the longer, more scholarly, version Microcosm and Mediator. The Theological Anthropology of St Maximus the Confessor, though the latter isn't by St Vladimir's, but by Gleerup's)
MJ. Smith said:The first presses that come to my mind for additional Logos partners:
The first that come to my mind are Paulist and Ignatius, SCM and Sheed & Ward, but it's far too middle of the night here for me to look for links now.
(Though my favourite publishers are Artos and Karmel. You'd love both of them, but unfortunately they're both Swedish only as far as I can remember. [:P] -- And now I had to go to Artos website, where I found two new Lossky's and what I believe is the first von Balthasar title in Swedish. Where am I going to find time and money for those? [:^)] )
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A whole-hearted "thumbs-up" to all suggestions to get more Patristic resources available in Logos!
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throw my name into the ring for fgh's Paulist Press--I'd especially like the Ancient Christian Writers Series. I own two hardcopies of it: Cassian's Conferences and Institutes.
and I not of the mainline, Lutheran, Anglican, or Catholic variety, MJ. [;)]
If resources are out of print, does that mean they are possible CP fodder??
EDIT: and i forgot to mention I am wholeheartedly for MJ's original suggestion as well as all subsequent ones!
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan DeVilder said:
If resources are out of print, does that mean they are possible CP fodder??
CP is generally out of copyright. But my thought was that small presses can't afford to carry large inventories - the result of a tax law change years ago. But if they make it available through instant publishing, e-books or Logos, they don't have the inventory expense and can have the books available. They get the profit without the expense.
Dan DeVilder said:and I not of the mainline, Lutheran, Anglican, or Catholic variety, MJ.
I think Logos' contract would still allow you to buy them[;)]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:Dan DeVilder said:
and I not of the mainline, Lutheran, Anglican, or Catholic variety, MJ.
I think Logos' contract would still allow you to buy them
phew! I am relieved! [:D]
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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I'd like to see more also, not just in the ANF and NPNF volumes. I was hoping perhaps that the prepub on the Patrologia Cursus Completus, Series Graeca would be a good start for looking at some of the works not listed in the ANF and NPNF. But I see it hasn't generated that much interest as of yet.
So I am also thumbs up on your suggestions.
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Dan DeVilder said:
and I not of the mainline, Lutheran, Anglican, or Catholic variety, MJ.
If memory serves me right, Daniel, MJ, myself all share common childhood indoctrination. Would this be a factor in our interest in these works?
( I would also like to see these publishers in Logos. )
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[;)]Super Tramp said:Dan DeVilder said:and I not of the mainline, Lutheran, Anglican, or Catholic variety, MJ.
If memory serves me right, Daniel, MJ, myself all share common childhood indoctrination. Would this be a factor in our interest in these works?
( I would also like to see these publishers in Logos. )
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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This morning I read a piece in Lumen Gentium. Looking at two of the footnotes I found 7-8 Patristic references. Only one of them was linked! Now, I didn't try to find the others, so it is of course possible that Logos may have missed to link a reference or two that should have been linked, but I fear that it is more likely that we simply don't yet have those texts in Logos.
Considering that both the Vatican II Documents and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are full of such references, not being able to get to the actual texts is kind of a bummer. [:'(]
In other words, please place your orders for this set quickly, so that it goes into production, and so that Logos understands that we want the rest of this series on prepub, in order to fill at least some of the most conspicuous holes in Logos' Patristic offerings.
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In case someone else is interested I believe this is a fairly complete list of the Popular Patristics series:
- St Athanasius – On the Incarnation (2 editions: one English, one Greek/English)
- St Athanasius the Great and Didymus the Blind - Works on the Spirit
- St Basil the Great - On the Holy Spirit
- St Basil the Great - On the Human Condition
- St Basil the Great - On Social Justice
- St Barsanuphius and St John - Letters from the Desert
- St Cyprian of Carthage - On the Church: Select Treatises
- St Cyprian of Carthage - On the Church: Select Letters
- St Cyril of Alexandria - On the Unity of Christ
- St Cyril of Jerusalem - On the Christian Sacraments
- Four Desert Fathers: Pambo, Evagrius, Macarius Of Egypt, And Macarius Of Alexandria - Coptic Texts Relating To The Lausiac History Of Palladius
- St Ephrem the Syrian - Hymns on Paradise
- St Germanus of Constantinople - On the Divine Liturgy
- St Gregory the Great - The Book of Pastoral Rule
- St Gregory of Nazianzus - Festal Orations
- St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Christ
- St Gregory of Nazianzus - On God and Man
- St Gregory of Nyssa – On the Soul and Resurrection
- Hippolytus - On the Apostolic Tradition
- St Irenaeus of Lyons — On the Apostolic Preaching
- St Isaac of Nineveh - On Ascetical Life
- Jacob of Serug – On the Mother of God
- St John Chrysostom - The Cult of the Saints
- St John Chrysostom - On Marriage and Family Life
- St John Chrysostom – Six Books on the Priesthood
- St John Chrysostom – On Wealth and Poverty
- St John of Damascus – Three Treatises on the Divine Images
- St Macarius the Spirit Bearer - Coptic Texts Relating to Saint Macarius the Great
- Mark the Monk - Counsels on the Spiritual Life
- St Maximus the Confessor - On the Cosmic Mystery of Jesus Christ
- Melito of Sardis - On Pascha: With the Fragments of Melito and Other Material Related to the Quartodecimans
- St Symeon the New Theologian - Divine Eros
- St Symeon the New Theologian – On the Mystical Life, vol. I
- St Symeon the New Theologian – On the Mystical Life, vol. II
- St Symeon the New Theologian – On the Mystical Life, vol. III
- Tertullian, Cyprian and Origen - On the Lord's Prayer
- St Theodore the Studite - On the Holy Icons
- Harp of Glory: An African Akathist
- On the Dormition of Mary: Early Patristic Homilies
- On the Two Ways, Death or Life, Darkness or Light: Foundational Texts in the Tradition
- Wider than Heaven: Eighth-century Homilies on the Mother of God
The ones in normal are the ones in Popular Patristics Series, Part 1 (10 vols.). The ones in bold are the ones we're still waiting for.
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