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Silent Sam | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:17 PM

George Somsel:
Sam, practice what your name implies and just be silent on this subject.  MJ is one of the most amicable persons on the forum -- unlike me since I'm a curmugeon.  If she say "Enough", believe me when I say "It's enough."

Now, Dear Sir, I will revert to being silent. Big Smile

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 11:52 PM

Silent Sam:
Now, Dear Sir, I will revert to being silent. Big Smile

                               Hmm   HHHMMMmmm~~~  Hmm

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Paul C | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 22 2011 2:04 PM

MJ. Smith:

Silent Sam:
I do not care to muddle through old threads to find the quote, but I will paraphrase something you said as best I can... "All followers of Christ are catholic, whether they know it or not...or want to accept it." Obviously, some do not accept it. It is not your definitions that are at issue, It is the motive behind putting those definitions forth. The folks who have issues with the capital C Catholic organization, will not want to be told they are catholic...even if you spell it Katholik. Why not let them labor under their belief that they are part of the Body of Christ?...AND QUIT PLAYING WORD GAMES.

Thanks - I finally understand what you found offensive and understand what level we would have to begin at in order to communicate well with each other.

Yes

 

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Abi Gail | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 22 2011 11:45 PM

Silent Sam:

MJ. Smith:
I feel a bit like the McDonald's  Wendy's ad "where's the beef?"

You have provided the analogy that I needed. Not all burgers are created equal. Seldom will a burger chain see it as a compliment if you call their business by another name...even if you spell it with a small m. Wendy's does not wish to dwell under the golden arches, or be associated with the red haired bozo who resides there. The have their own approach/identity, and want to keep it that way.

I do not care to muddle through old threads to find the quote, but I will paraphrase something you said as best I can... "All followers of Christ are catholic, whether they know it or not...or want to accept it." Obviously, some do not accept it. It is not your definitions that are at issue, It is the motive behind putting those definitions forth. The folks who have issues with the capital C Catholic organization, will not want to be told they are catholic...even if you spell it Katholik. Why not let them labor under their belief that they are part of the Body of Christ?...AND QUIT PLAYING WORD GAMES.

                                                                                              God Bless

Well, would you look at that ! Sam is capable of typing something other than guttural grunts. Even more amazing... he has a valid point.  Hmm

 

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Brad Fry | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 23 2011 7:24 AM

Silent Sam:

You have provided the analogy that I needed. Not all burgers are created equal. Seldom will a burger chain see it as a compliment if you call their business by another name...even if you spell it with a small m. Wendy's does not wish to dwell under the golden arches, or be associated with the red haired bozo who resides there. The have their own approach/identity, and want to keep it that way.

Silent Sam speaks the truth. Love the Sistine Chapel site.

Brad Fry, a non-Campbellite member of the Church of Christ.

2 Timothy 2:19 19But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.”

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K.J. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 23 2011 3:53 PM

Brad Fry:

Silent Sam speaks the truth. Love the Sistine Chapel site.

Brad Fry, a non-Campbellite member of the Church of Christ.

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Silent Sam | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 25 2011 2:39 AM

Matthew C Jones:

Silent Sam:
Now, Dear Sir, I will revert to being silent. Big Smile

                               Hmm   HHHMMMmmm~~~  Hmm

 

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Brad Stogsdill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 25 2011 6:59 AM

I just wanted to say that this is the first time that I have visited Logos Forums. As a sojourner, I followed the most obvious path, Home/General/A Gift to all Catholics *smile*. I chose this link not because I am Catholic (I am Baptist) but because there were 4 pages of activity and I thought to myself, "What a good place to begin." Was I ever wrong. I greatly appreciate the link to the Sistene Chapel, breathtaking. =] I was simply speechless at the lack of sensitivity that was displayed in a few of the posts. I am no scholar and quite simply stated, I am an ordinary man. I lived in and of the world in all its filth. I was a drug addict and a fornicator. These were my most obvious sins. I was convicted of my sins over ten years ago and I sought deliverance through Christ Jesus and picked up my Bible and began to read and read and read. As I studied I found a Friend and a Redeemer. I purchased a Logos Bible Software package not be become puffed up with knowledge but to understand my Saviour better and to better realize His will for my life. I was not disappointed. I am however disappointed with this forum and will most likely not return for the reason that I simply don't need to debate how one church is superior or inferior to another. I can't see where this is edifying. I need to keep my life simple and anchored in Christ as He has, rather as the Holy Spirit has revealed Him to me. I love you and I feel I have the freedom to share with you honestly through this love but please do not throw out the baby with the bath water.

A skin cell in the belly button of the Body of Christ,

Brad Stogsdill =]

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 25 2011 7:14 AM

Brad Stogsdill:
. . . I thought to myself, "What a good place to begin." Was I ever wrong. I greatly appreciate the link to the Sistene Chapel, breathtaking. =] I was simply speechless at the lack of sensitivity that was displayed in a few of the posts.

Brad, welcome to the forums!

Please don't take the reactions of a few to color your view of these forums. Also notice in this thread how many were also upset at what you describe as a "lack of sensitivity." This is not typical of these forums.

Mostly what you'll find here is help in how to use Logos Bible software. Off topic discussions are discouraged, but happen anyway. These are almost always amiable, respectful and engaging. Occasionally something like this happens, and the brokenness of the human condition and the brokenness of the Body of Christ is exposed. Just like anywhere else.

Why don't you try a few other threads before you decide that there's nothing here for you. And if you have some questions about how to use Logos4, or some tips on what works well for you.

BTW, one thread to look at, thought it's a bit buried is this one: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/20083.aspx it's a place where new-comers often introduce themselves. One of the friendliest threads here.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 25 2011 7:27 AM

Brad Stogsdill:
I am however disappointed with this forum and will most likely not return for the reason that I simply don't need to debate how one church is superior or inferior to another. I can't see where this is edifying. I need to keep my life simple and anchored in Christ as He has, rather as the Holy Spirit has revealed Him to me. I love you and I feel I have the freedom to share with you honestly through this love but please do not throw out the baby with the bath water.

Brad, I urge you to take your own advice and "please do not throw out the baby with the bath water".  That is, don't avoid the forums because of one thread.  These forums are a diverse place, like the world, and conflict will happen from time to time.  However, these forums tend to be the most well behaved "religious-oriented" forums I've ever been on.

If you find an argumentative thread, I advise you (and anyone else) to avoid it.  Most of the time you will find the forums an agreeable place to learn about how to use the Logos software.

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Brad Stogsdill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 25 2011 7:36 AM

Thank You Todd and you are so right. I will take my own advice. =]

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Brad Stogsdill | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 25 2011 7:37 AM

Thank You Richard =]

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Abi Gail | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 25 2011 8:10 AM

 

Brad Stogsdill:
I am however disappointed with this forum and will most likely not return for the reason that I simply don't need to debate how one church is superior or inferior to another.

 

Hi;

This is my first post also. Interestingly, I came away with a totally different view of the thread. I think it's wonderful that people can express their concerns and find some common ground. One of the arbiters even thanked one of the participants for the explanation, and a starting point for communication. I don't think we should shy away from a peaceful discussion. Luther didn't. And his objections ended up not being quite so peaceful.

 

MJ. Smith:
Thanks - I finally understand what you found offensive and understand what level we would have to begin at in order to communicate well with each other.

 

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Abi Gail | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 26 2011 8:35 AM

Anyone else see inconsistency here? :

One newby newbie makes his first post and is given a hero's/red carpet welcome within minutes. A second  newby newbie posts a few minutes later and is ignored for over 24 hours.

Do a person's views on a particular issue determine whether they are welcome, or not?

As you can see, Chris, I am a relative newby newbie myself. This is the first time I have been bold enough to welcome anyone. Since the regular welcoming committee didn't see fit to do it...I will.

Welcome ! There is a wealth of information here concerning Logos software, and a few open minded folks who will have a civil conversation with you.

Enjoy ... God Bless

Edit : I suppose misspelling newbie demonstrates just how much of a newbie I am.Embarrassed

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 26 2011 8:48 AM

Abi Gail:

One newby makes his first post and is given a hero's/red carpet welcome within minutes. A second newby posts a few minutes later and is ignored for over 24 hours.

Do a person's views on a particular issue determine whether they are welcome, or not?

Of course all are welcome. I think I was just getting exhausted by this thread and didn't add to it for that reason. Sometimes a friendly welcome is used as a way to defuse a potentially contentious situation or (in this case) help convince someone that it's not usually argumentative here. Chris, the second newbie, didn't seem dismayed at all so didn't really need a response, at least that's how I saw it when I first read the post. But of course, welcome, welcome Chris. I'm glad you're here. I'm particularly glad another peaceful voice is here. And Brad, I welcome you too, and do hope you stick around. It truly is a friendly community. And we all grow and adapt as we learn better ways of steering around the dicey topics of conversation.

And thank you Abi for taking the plunge and being a welcomer. :-)

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 26 2011 8:53 AM

Abi Gail:

Anyone else see inconsistency here? :

One newby makes his first post and is given a hero's/red carpet welcome within minutes. A second newby posts a few minutes later and is ignored for over 24 hours.

Sorry to disappoint you Abi Gail. I have been busy doing a brake job on my son's Jaguar, baby-sitting my 2 year old. and measuring the bathroom for new floor tile. (Besides that, some of my posts yesterday would be deemed out-of-line by many. I needed a break. But thanks for mentioning the point. So,

 

Welcome to All Newbies !!

Hope everybody finds this a nice place to be.

 

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Abi Gail | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 26 2011 9:04 AM

Thanks for all your replies. I couldn't imagine what I had said to offend anyone. I must admit that I was getting the feeling I had stepped on some toes. It's good to know that we will not be ex-communicated for expressing our opinion.

Thanks again; God bless; ...Chris

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 26 2011 9:19 AM

Chris Thompson:
I couldn't imagine what I had said to offend anyone. I must admit that I was getting the feeling I had stepped on some toes. It's good to know that we will not be ex-communicated for expressing our opinion.

Wow, I had no idea that the lack of response to the last post in a 4-page thread could be taken as an unwelcoming cold shoulder. There has to be a last post in a long thread at some point, especially when the discussion has pretty much been played out and had started winding down already. But I guess we all need to be sure not to leave a last post by a newbie un-followed-up, because it could be taken as that dreaded silence that means something bad was said. I assure you that was not at all the case. Sometimes silence means nothing more than "I had nothing worth saying." I saw a quote today, something to the effect of "Sometimes silence is the best answer." And I also recall the great advice of one of the Desert Fathers "Don't speak unless you can improve upon the silence." And I'm reading Benjamin Franklin's autobiography right now and recently came across the place where he says "Silence. Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself." So our friend Silent Sam might be onto something. And with that, I'll retreat to the quiet mode again.

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Abi Gail | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 26 2011 9:30 AM

Point Taken Zip it!

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Brad Stogsdill | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Feb 26 2011 9:32 AM

LOL, Peace and love to you all. =] If I could find a way, I would remove my post from yesterday, obviously I stepped right into the trap of the fowler and allowed myself to become offended where no offense was intended but words are like a bell, once rung they cannot be unrung. =] I am shamed that I gave CPR to a dying thread and thereby allowed my words to offend. I am certain that this is a loving, caring community and I will use more discretion in the future.

Love and Peace,

Your Brother in Christ

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