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Paul N | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Aug 1 2011 12:38 PM

I'm curious to know how varied our results are and if certain libraries are less available in mobile form than others.

Take the number of resources showing available on your mobile device divided by your desktop resource count.

 

Mine is 95.3% with only 147 books missing (unavailable) from my iPad

 

I'm impressed with this percentage and feel Logos has done well to chase down all the licenses they have so far.  (Even though 100% would be great too!)

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 1 2011 1:06 PM

I only have 90.43% of my Library available to me (117 books missing).

-Dan

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 1 2011 1:54 PM

My availability is 86%, which I am pleased with. Of course, I would like to see it as close to 100% as possible!

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 1 2011 2:08 PM

Mine is also 86%, with 276 books missing.

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Brother Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 1 2011 2:23 PM

726 iPad

812 Desktop

 

so just over 89%

"I read dead people..."

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Dewayne Davis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 1 2011 2:50 PM

Mine is 81%, missing 643 resources.

“... every day in which I do not penetrate more deeply into the knowledge of God’s Word in Holy Scripture is a lost day for me. I can only move forward with certainty upon the firm ground of the Word of God.”

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Steve Grant | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 1 2011 8:18 PM

I know I'm not in the range of previous libraries, but mine is 355 to 325   (91.5%)

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 1 2011 9:58 PM

ok so apparently my library is not the norm.  I had a theory as to why but I'm not so sure now.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 2 2011 8:56 AM

Todd Phillips:

Mine is also 86%, with 276 books missing.

5734.missing.txt

Here is a list of books missing on mobile platforms from my library. I generated this by comparing a list from library.logos.com and a list I exported from Logos 4.  Biblia.com is different from library.logos.com by a few books.  I don't have a mobile device so I can't be sure it would be exact the same for those too.

A few thoughts:

  • 99 of those are Discipleship Journal issues.
  • 6 volumes of the Opening Up series of commentaries are missing.  But the rest are available.  This must be an oversight.
  • John Piper books from Multnomah publishers aren't available.  This includes Desiring God, The Pleasures of God, and Future Grace.  (I don't have the full Piper collection)
  • 16 volumes are Victor published ("Be" series, Bible Exposition Commentary, Bible Knowledge Commentary, etc)--which is all my Victor volumes except for those written by John MacArthur.
  • 21 volumes are Kregel published books (which is all the Kregel volumes I own).
  • 5 volumes are Brill published books (which is all the Brill volumes I own).
  • Many Greek NT resources are unavailable.

 

 

 

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Ron | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 2 2011 9:34 AM

I have 541 out of 597, so 90.6%.  Of the 56 that are missing, the ones that are "critical" to me are:

  • BIBLE KNOWLEDGE COMMENTARY!!! Crying
  • Wiersbe's BE series (28 vols)
  • Ariel Messianic collection (11 vols)

I'm not sure off the top of my head what other 16 vols I'm missing.  For reference, I have the Bible Study Library along with quite a few additional purchases.

EDIT: I just noticed that 11 of the other 27 missing volumes are Fruchtenbaum's resources, which are also very important to me...I hadn't yet noticed that those were missing (I just purchased them a couple of weeks ago).

EDIT 2: Corrected my numbers after new books were just added to my desktop (which had already been reflected in my iOS numbers [Larkin])

EDIT 3: Well, my numbers are still off, because I didn't account for the free extra resources that are included on iOS that I don't have on my desktop.  I decided to go through and tag the ones on my desktop with an "iOS" tag so that I can keep track of what still isn't available.

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Ron | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 5 2011 8:20 AM

OK, so now that I've tagged the missing resources on my desktop, discounted the free iOS resources that I don't have on the desktop, and taken into account the ones that are now "newly" available ( http://community.logos.com/forums/t/36386.aspx ), I can definitively state that my mobile availability is 516 out of 597 or 86.4% availability.  My "most wanted" missing books are the three sets that I listed above, plus the Wycliffe Bible Commentary.  These account for 42 of the 81 missing resources.  The ISV is also critical to me, but I'm not worried about that one as I know it will come available once the full Bible is out of pre-pub.

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Michael G. Halpern | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 5 2011 9:48 AM

I'm at about 88% w/approx 540 missing.  This is quite frustrating.

I wonder what is going to happen with the publisher's contracts w/Logos when Apple goes completely iOS by next year.  Are we going to lose all of our "non-mobile books" on our desktops too.  I am almost Mac only now, and probably will be by the end of this year, and wonder if I should be concerned.

Now that Lion on your Mac looks just like iOS on your mobile device, Apple is now considering dropping its desktop and laptop software in favor of a single OS platform based on apps and the cloud. The idea has so many advantages, an OS merger is likely to begin next year. (from Cult of Mac blog).

I think the publishers are just going to have to wake up at this point and allow their books to be read on all available digital mediums.  Just like a physical book/magazine/newspaper...we don't usually purchase a copy for the home, one for the office, and one for the road...do we?

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 5 2011 10:24 AM

Michael - 

When I see that you have 88% availability, I think GREAT! When I read that you have 540 missing, I can sympathize with your frustration. Of course, when the books we want to read are available we are happy, when they are not, we are disappointed. 

As for Apple's iOS plans - I don't think you have anything to worry about. We will certainly not lose the rights to our resources on our computers. As the Apple begins to merge OS's, it will mean that mobile devices will be seen more closely aligned to computers, rather than computers aligned with phones. I also think that publishers will increasingly come around to Logos' way of thinking. Perhaps I am being too optimistic. Smile

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Alan Charles Gielczyk | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 6 2011 7:40 PM

85.8% available, 504 missing resources.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 6 2011 9:20 PM

OK Ron after your thread making available more resources on mobile devices I'm at 95.5% available with 139 unavailable.

 

Alan, after doing the math I noticed I'm within 500 resources to the amount you own and our availability percentages are off by 10%.

Dwayne, we are just outside of 250 total resources difference in our libraries and our percentages differ by 14%

Just curious, but I would say commentaries and periodicals are two major categories in my library.  Do we differ in this characteristic and might this possibly explain why the 10% and 14% difference?  

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Ryan | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 6 2011 10:42 PM

Desktop: 1384

Mobile: 1324

Approx. 96%

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Alan Charles Gielczyk | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 7 2011 12:00 PM

Paul, I have the Discipleship Journal which is 150 or 4.6% of my library, almost half of the difference in our libraries. I have not investigated th rest yet.

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Mike Pettit | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 7 2011 1:00 PM

eek, only 77.4% available here with 751 missing.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 7 2011 3:01 PM

Overall, bit lower at 76.9% available for mobile use.

If exclude Dead Sea Scrolls database and Discipleship Journals, then mobile availability becomes 94.1 % (with 106 missing).

Keep Smiling Smile

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L.D. Young | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 7 2011 3:16 PM

I'm sorry if this seems like a dumb question but how do I know how many resources are on my ipad? It's pretty obvious on my laptop but I can't find it on my ipad.

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