4.5 Beta 1 (v4.50.0.1142) shipping this afternoon

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Melissa Snyder | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Oct 12 2011 12:35 PM | Locked

4.5 Beta 1 (v4.50.0.1142) will be available for testing this afternoon. Please read Important Change post about this beta.

To upgrade to Beta 1 when it ships, enter the *Update Now* command if you’ve switched to the beta channel before, or enter the *Set Update Channel to Beta* command if you're on a stable version (such as 4.3 SR-5). To install Beta 1 from scratch, see the notes and download link in this thread.

Installation Note: The Logos4Prerequisites.msi will be updated, which will require elevation. A few new and updated fonts will be installed.

See Release Notes: http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4.5_Beta_1.

Summary of what's new in this Beta:

Highlighting has been merged into Notes, and it is now easy to convert a highlight to a note and vice versa. Additionally, we've provided several new note indicator styles, including 'No indicator', as well as the ability to select any highlighting style for your notes. Because highlights are now stored in Notes documents, this also gives you more control over which highlights are displayed in your resources with the Visual Filters menu.

Once a user has updated to 4.5 Beta 1, during the beta period Favorites and Resource Position preference changes will not be synched to the iPhone/iPad application. Changes in 4.5 Beta 1 will also not be synched to Logos 4.3 or earlier versions.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 12:43 PM | Locked

Yeehaw!!!!

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Danny Baskin | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 12:50 PM | Locked

Yeah boy!

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 12:50 PM | Locked

desisions.. go to sleep or keep pressing F5 all night, LOL, early start for me tomorro (6am)

 

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Danny Baskin | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 12:51 PM | Locked

DominicM:
keep pressing F5 all night

 

What decision?

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Ben Vargh | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 12:56 PM | Locked

"When highlighting is added to selected text a note will now be added to the active, open Notes document, or to the most recently active Notes document "

This brings in significant challenges:

1. Notes are often of a transactional nature with regular additions and deletions. This throws my highlights (which I often want to perpetually remain) at great risk.

2. Notes for a resource is fragmented into multiple note files. 

3. What happens when some of the note files with highlights of a resource are deleted? It becomes a very messy scenario.

I would prefer logos managing highlights as probably one note file per resource that is NOT exposed to the end-user.

 

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:02 PM | Locked

Ben Vargh:

"When highlighting is added to selected text a note will now be added to the active, open Notes document, or to the most recently active Notes document "

This brings in significant challenges:

1. Notes are often of a transactional nature with regular additions and deletions. This throws my highlights (which I often want to perpetually remain) at great risk.

2. Notes for a resource is fragmented into multiple note files. 

3. What happens when some of the note files with highlights of a resource are deleted? It becomes a very messy scenario.

Yes this seems like it could become confusing and dangerous.  Although it's not completely clear.

Ben Vargh:
I would prefer logos managing highlights as probably one note file per resource that is NOT exposed to the end-user.

I agree.  But I'll withhold judgment until I try it out.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:03 PM | Locked

Danny Baskin:

DominicM:
keep pressing F5 all night

 

What decision?

 

when to go to bed.. LOL

its 9pm here in UK - LOL - and i drive for a living, so my sleep is vital..

maybe I let you guys get 24 hrs head start..

will be interesting to see how this new highlighting affects the visual filters..

think I may have to leave 1 machine in v4.3 tho - and pray its a short beta cycle Big Smile

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:05 PM | Locked

Looks like a nice release. Improvements in the notes feature is a welcome addition to the world's greatest bible study software!

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:09 PM | Locked

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:11 PM | Locked

HH, is that 144000 smileys? ( I didn't take time to count them)

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:20 PM | Locked

haha...the funny thing is I actually counted the smileys and came up with 144. Thats kinda funny.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:20 PM | Locked

downloading....Cool

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:22 PM | Locked

Lets see 12 smiles represent your Old Testament notes & highlighting  -times-  12 smiles for your New Testament notes & highlighting = 144 smiles.

A perfect and complete joy.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:23 PM | Locked

here we go... wonderful! YesSmile

Bohuslav

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:32 PM | Locked

grrr....I had forgotten to change my channel back to beta....downloading now....

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Danny Baskin | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:40 PM | Locked

My system won't sync.

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Jeff Loven | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 1:55 PM | Locked

My system won't sync either...

This happened with the last beta release also. Angry

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 2:01 PM | Locked

The old design was single-user oriented, so it was okay that there was no "highlight document." 

The change is driven by several things:

- Support for mobile devices and web-presentation of notes/highlights (Biblia.com), which drove some technical changes.

- New use cases requiring multiple sets of highlighting on a single book. (You can search within a highlight, do the Search Analysis on highlights, etc.) This requires "named" or "document-like" highlight sets.

- Document sharing -- in the future you'll be able to collaborate on annotations, or let select individuals take copies of your annotations; this also requires named and manageable highlight documents.

We could have duplicated the whole notes file system for highlights, but people are also asking for highlighting capabilities on the selections to which they attach notes. So it just made sense to merge these things together into a single annotation system.

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Melissa Snyder | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 12 2011 2:27 PM | Locked

Danny Baskin:

My system won't sync.

Danny ~  If you have the yellow triangle in place of the sync icon, please attach the Logos4Error.log in your '\Documents\Logos Log Files' folder. If you also have logging enabled, please include the Logos4.log.

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