Displaying Gentium Greek and SBL Hebrew in material pasted into MS Word 2011 (Mac)

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Ray Wenger | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jan 20 2012 9:19 AM

I frequently copy excerpts from Logos 4 (Mac) into MS Word 2011 documents for the Mac.

This worked fine on Windows version, but when I switched to the Mac, MS Word 2011 apparently knows nothing about Gentium or SBL Hebrew.

Greek

 Clicking on the transferred material shows that it is gentium font, but then scrolling down though the font selection does not list gentium.  Apparently Word substitutes something else of its own choice, but still identifies the font as gentium.  The new font is more blocky and is not as readable as gentium.  

Hebrew

SBL Hebrew transfers as a mess:  Lucida Sans Unicode.

I could create a document that has a reasonable font as default that also includes greek or hebrew characters, and then whenever I paste, convert to destination document format.  But then I may lose other formatting of the original if the greek or hebrew was just small excerpts within a larger paragraph.  Also, it doesn't answer the question of reasonably adding material to already existing documents.

Is there a way to make MS Word for the Mac aware of the SBL Hebrew and Gentium fonts?  I didn't have a problem on Windows, but I did download the addin that would enable population of search boxes with greek and hebrew.  Is there something similar for the Mac?  Would this affect this issue?

Would anyone have suggestions on the most effective way to deal with this?

Thank you,

Ray Wenger

 

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Jason | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 20 2012 10:55 AM

You may want to download them specifically for your Mac and install them into the Fonts folder.

Gentium: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=Gentium_basic

SBL Hebrew: http://www.sbl-site.org/educational/BiblicalFonts_FAQ.aspx

Hope that helps!

Jason

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 20 2012 11:26 AM

Ray Wenger:
Is there a way to make MS Word for the Mac aware of the SBL Hebrew and Gentium fonts?

One option is copying Fonts used by Logos 4 Mac into your Fonts folder => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/38461/287988.aspx#287988

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 20 2012 2:15 PM

Ray Wenger:
Is there a way to make MS Word for the Mac aware of the SBL Hebrew and Gentium fonts?

Be aware that MS Office for Mac (all versions) does not play nice with Hebrew text. It will almost work (2008) if you have nothing but right-to-left text in the paragraph, but put in a little English, and Word creates a big mess. If you intend to do much Hebrew work, take a look at Mellel. One problem, Mellel cannot save in docx format which is needed for PBB.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 20 2012 2:45 PM

Jack Caviness:

Ray Wenger:
Is there a way to make MS Word for the Mac aware of the SBL Hebrew and Gentium fonts?

Be aware that MS Office for Mac (all versions) does not play nice with Hebrew text. It will almost work (2008) if you have nothing but right-to-left text in the paragraph, but put in a little English, and Word creates a big mess. If you intend to do much Hebrew work, take a look at Mellel. One problem, Mellel cannot save in docx format which is needed for PBB.

LibreOffice (free) has configuration option for complex text, including right to left.  For commercial software, Scrivener is another possibility; Logos employees have mentioned Mellel.  Logos User Voice suggestion => add Mellel support for "Copy Bible Verses"

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 20 2012 3:14 PM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
LibreOffice (free) has configuration option for complex text, including right to left.

Can it handle right-to-left and left-to-right on the same line? That is the main problem with MS Office.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 20 2012 8:27 PM

Jack Caviness:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
LibreOffice (free) has configuration option for complex text, including right to left.

Can it handle right-to-left and left-to-right on the same line? That is the main problem with MS Office.

Top of insertion bar has arrow indicating typing direction.  Typing parenthesis looks bit funny for closing ) placement until more is typed.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 21 2012 4:12 AM

KS4J, Thanks for the update.

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Ray Wenger | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 22 2012 5:09 PM

Thank you for the helpful link on where to obtain the fonts.  After looking at the SIL link, and noting the thread posted by KS4J, I decided to install the logos fonts onto the mac.

Ray

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Ray Wenger | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 22 2012 5:12 PM

To KS4J,

Thank you for the helpful thread on how to get logos fonts visible to the mac.  It worked just fine.

Ray

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 22 2012 5:20 PM

Ray Wenger:
Thank you for the helpful thread on how to get logos fonts visible to the mac.  It worked just fine.

Smiling with you Geeked Thanks for sharing update.

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Stephen Chaffer | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 18 2012 12:55 PM

Hi

I have tried al sorts to get SBL Hebrew to work in 2011 Mac, I decided to try typing SBL Hebrew where the type face should be in the list. and changed all the hebrew text to SBL Hebrew in advanced search and replace it works very well.

I did notice that when changing the font SBL Hebrew appeared (sometimes) lol. Never in the main menu.

Stephen

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