REQUEST: DIFFERENT COLORS IN LOGOS 4.5

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Steve | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Feb 26 2012 1:16 AM

The color coding in Libronix 3.g resources draws attention to the eye much faster than Logos 4.5.

 

For example: In the New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge Libronix version there are green, blue, and red codes; but in 4.5 there are only blue codes. 

 

In Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary and Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Thesaurus the link tags are in red in Libronix; But in Logos 4.5 link tags are in blue.  The red coloring stands out much easier, the blue tags are easily over looked.

 

Logos 4.5 should be colored similar to Libronix 3.g.  If not then an option should given to personalize those colors.

 

This is one of several reasons I have not made a complete transition to 4.5.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 26 2012 4:38 PM

Welcome Big Smile

In Nov 2009, a suggestion was posted => Hyperlink colors that included a response from Bob Pritchett (CEO):

Bob Pritchett:

In Logos 3. certain lexicons were a horrendous clutter of black, blue, red and green text. (We called them "fruitcake.") We wanted to tone down the text to improve reading.

If you wish to highlight a particular datatype, or data pattern, you can now create a Visual Filter document and create a search that finds what you want highlighted and then apply a formatting change.

I confess I don't know offhand what to search for to catch the apparatus marks (though I imagine just putting their characters in the query would work), and I don't have a copy on my home machine to test, but I'll look into it when I'm back at my office desk.

For grins, created a visual filter for NTSK, which took many seconds to highlight all Bible references in the five books of Moses and Psalms:

In contrast, highlighting a single chapter appeared quickly.

By the way, you could have replied to your previous suggestion => Color Coding in 4.5 vs 3.g with a "bump" or a question: "Any else agree ?" instead of creating a new post with a title that is SHOUTING.  Suggestion forum threads are read by Logos, but typically Logos does not reply to suggestion threads.  If other Logos users agree with suggestion, then replies are added to thread, otherwise thread tends to be ignored.

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Noticed Logos User Voice has several colorful suggestions:

=> Allow each pane to have an individual background color

=> add option to change background color based on grouping such as bibles in blue, commentaries green.

=> Enable us to select ANY COLOUR for words of Christ in Bibles that support it

=> text comparison bar -

However, did not find any Logos User Voice suggestions => http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4 for colorful link choices in Logos 4.

Stephen Canter:
This is one of several reasons I have not made a complete transition to 4.5.

In Logos 3/Libronix forum, posted thread => What is more useful in Libronix 3.0g ? (especially compared to Logos 4.5a)

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Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 28 2012 4:26 PM

Thank you for the reply.  It would have been nice if you had replied to my original post.

“In Logos 3. certain lexicons were a horrendous clutter of black, blue, red and green text. (We called them "fruitcake.") We wanted to tone down the text to improve reading.”

 I would hardly call the black, blue, red, and green text in the The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge a “horrendous clutter.”  Removing the colors in this book does not make easier reading, it makes it more difficult.  Most likely Bob was referring to a Lexicon I am not familiar with and not to the Treasury of Scripture.

 

The color coding allows quick identification of the symbols and abbreviations in 3.g (I tried to paste a screen shot of the 3.g NTSK (as you did), but obviously I do not know how.  That screen shot graphically shows what I am talking about.).   

 

Colors are important and allow for quick identification; that is important.  You can make an analogy to the warning lights in today’s cars.  If all the warning lights were white, the “low oil” might not get your attention.  Since it is in red, it does.

 

Thanks for giving the example for highlighting, while it was helpful, did not accomplish what was needed.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 28 2012 5:55 PM

Stephen Canter:
It would have been nice if you had replied to my original post.

Apologies Embarrassed  Personally living and learning; Thankful for many friendly forum discussions: have learned a lot plus have a lot to learn.

Stephen Canter:
The color coding allows quick identification of the symbols and abbreviations in 3.g (I tried to paste a screen shot of the 3.g NTSK (as you did), but obviously I do not know how.  That screen shot graphically shows what I am talking about.).  

Wiki has Using the Forums => Adding a picture to a Post

Dreaming about a reformatted BDAG that would be easier to read and use => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/32633/243659.aspx#243659

Libronix 3.0g color coding was helpful in densely packed BDAG.

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Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 13 2012 12:13 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

By the way, you could have replied to your previous suggestion => Color Coding in 4.5 vs 3.g with a "bump" or a question: "Any else agree ?" instead of creating a new post

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus

I have another question that does not belong in this thread; that post is not getting any replies.  How do I "bump" or "flag" a post to get someone’s attention?  The post is in the thread "Problems with setting email notifications in site profile," perhaps with your expertise you have an answer.

Thanks 

Steve

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 13 2012 12:19 AM

Steve,

If you reply the the thread, even by just typing "bump" it will bump the thread to the top.

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Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 13 2012 3:46 AM

Philana

Thanks.  I will try that.  You also might have a suggestion to my question in "Problems with setting email notifications in site profile."

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DMB | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 13 2012 7:01 AM

Steve, we do pray for Japan. Appreciate your avatar.

The quietness, is because people get tired of complaining/suggesting (not yours; theirs earlier).  If a person goes on too long on a feature that's a problem, theyre soon the negative whiner. Enough!!

And if you've ever done heavy-duty software development, especially across platforms, after a program reaches 'alpha' and certainly 'beta', the horse is out of the barn; maybe a bridle but he's not going to get significant alteration.

I agree with your points wholeheartedly.  I call it the Logos 'coolity' problem, where 'neato' precedes functionality (unlike Steve prior to his demise in Cupertino).

Of course, my views should come as no surprise since I'm a Libronix fan (people in the neighborhood really question those large red triple chevrons on top of our roof). And being on the female side of the house, I like to 'decorate' and Libronix assists me nicely. Makes it easier to see specific features and fits into my other software as well. I suppose I qualify for the 'fruitcake' description from Bellingham.

 

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 13 2012 7:06 AM

DMB:
And being on the female side of the house, I like to 'decorate' and Libronix assists me nicely. Makes it easier to see specific features and fits into my other software as well. I suppose I qualify for the 'fruitcake' description from Bellingham.

This is not a female thing.  I too like color, and this is one area that L4 took many steps backwards (IMHO).

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Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 14 2012 12:53 AM

DBM

Thanks for your prayers and comment on my avatar.  Your prayers are very much needed.

 

I am not a programmer, but I seriously doubt font color would affect the engines programming.  I am glad to see there are others out there who think the same.

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DominicM | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 14 2012 2:08 AM

Steve C.:

Colors are important and allow for quick identification; that is important.  You can make an analogy to the warning lights in today’s cars.  If all the warning lights were white, the “low oil” might not get your attention.  Since it is in red, it does.

 

You can do this by visual filters

Give us a list of what you what set what color, and will see if we can work out the VF settings  you need to set 

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tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 14 2012 3:15 AM

DominicM:

You can do this by visual filters

Give us a list of what you what set what color, and will see if we can work out the VF settings  you need to set 

I would like the font to be in a green for any text in any book that pops up a small window that explains an abbreviation:

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Steve | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 14 2012 5:11 AM

Dominic

I recommend following the Libronix color scheme, it would make the switch for Librinoix users much easier.

Thanks

Steve

 

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jul 14 2012 6:53 AM

tom collinge:

DominicM:

You can do this by visual filters

Give us a list of what you what set what color, and will see if we can work out the VF settings  you need to set 

I would like the font to be in a green for any text in any book that pops up a small window that explains an abbreviation:

I did this for this resource with L4.  It works well, but to add other books requires further modification and time. Or just recognize the limits to the abbreviations that are highlighted.  I had the Match Case checked in the resource menu of the visual filter.  I used bold green to achieve the proper look.  I also included the list of abbreviations from the Greek-English Dict. of N.T. if anyone wants to repeat this visual filter.  If anyone wants to start a collection, the filter also works reasonably well with An Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon by Liddell.

 

act., adj., acc., adv., alt., aor., cf., comp., conj.        

dat., demon., e.g., etc., f, f, ff, fem., fut., gen., i.e., impers. 

impf., impv., ind., inf., interj., interrog, intrans., lit., m, masc.       

midd., mng., n, neut., nom., NT, obj., opt., OT, pass., pers. 

pf., pl., plpf., prep., pres., pro., ptc., sg., sp., subj., superl., trans.

 

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