Unreleased Stuff
We've got a big project in the works -- but it's not ready.
Please don't try it until you get the announcement, or you could lose data!
Because it's so big, and connects so many parts of the Logos platform together, it's been hard to keep all the parts under wraps while testing their integration with the rest of our system. While this is a "never done" type project that will keep growing, we want to make sure your first experience is a good one, and that everything in the first release is rock solid.
It's not yet. We know it -- that's why it's unreleased! :-)
I know it's frustrating to wait, but I think it's going to be worth it.
Thanks!
-- Bob
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Hey thanks for the heads up Bob.
Always looking forward to what the techies will bring us.
Thanks again
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Bob Pritchett said:
you could lose data!
What can you tell those who have already been trying it? What kind of data could they lose? Should they be looking for a problem?
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Jerry M said:
What kind of data could they lose? Should they be looking for a problem?
I've consulted the team, and data loss may not happen. What would be at risk would be anything added specifically inside the new features some people were playing with today -- nothing that would affect your existing Logos data.
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Bob Pritchett said:
Please don't try it until you get the announcement, or you could lose data!
Which are these?
Blessings in Christ.
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Tes said:
Which are these?
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement. [;)]
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Tes said:alabama24 said:
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement.
I wounder why it should be secret ,is that in order to surprise us?
Surprise IS part of it Tes. Additionally in situations like this there may be some arrangements with other people that need to be protected.
In this case I think it's more about a desire to unveil the whole shiny item all at once, rather than just one corner at a time.
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Tes said:alabama24 said:
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement.
I wounder why it should be secret ,is that in order to surprise us?
Yes, it's because it raises more excitement if people get to see it all finished, rather than leaking partial truths about it before they know what the whole thing is going to look like. Also, if users begin to see parts of it that are accidentally released and it isn't fully functional, they might have negative reactions to it.
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Rosie Perera said:Tes said:alabama24 said:
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement.
I wounder why it should be secret ,is that in order to surprise us?
Yes, it's because it raises more excitement if people get to see it all finished, rather than leaking partial truths about it before they know what the whole thing is going to look like. Also, if users begin to see parts of it that are accidentally released and it isn't fully functional, they might have negative reactions to it.
I think you may have got the reason for the overall "secrecy" - however, I think Logos orchestrates the "leaking" of small tidbits in order to generate anticipation. Dan twittered about it. It features prominently as "the secret floor" in the tour. There's a new tab in biblia.com. There's a website. There are threads on the forum that reveal some of the news and Logos lets them run for some time and then hides them, so people start asking about it.
Actually, three users tested some of the new functionality yesterday (call it a sort of "pre-beta") and provided infos for Logos regarding usage, bugs etc. Nothing big, but the threads where this was discussed - including some screenshots and a user-made video - ran for several hours until they were pulled. I hope it helps the developers to put the last finishing touches on the new thing.
Thus, I'd rather rephrase your concluding remark: Users begin to see parts of it that Logos releases temporarily, get a glimpse of the new functionality and become eager to try it for themselves - this helps building momentum and it also bridges the time between when the users would like to see the new thing and when it actually gets released. I personally like what I have seen so far, and it allows for new things many of us wanted to do but couldn't accomplish yet.
Have joy in the Lord!
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I stumbled upon the "secret" project and got charged $29.95 when I tried to get the free subscription. It's now in my Logos library
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Edwin Bowden said:
I stumbled upon the "secret" project and got charged $29.95 when I tried to get the free subscription. It's now in my Logos library
There was a not-so secret coupon code for the free subscription (which didn't work for me in the coupon code field, but in the "get the free subscription" field). Maybe Customer Service can take the product back and you can re-subscribe for free.
The associated resource is really cool - don't you agree?
Have joy in the Lord!
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Tes said:
I wounder why it should be secret ,is that in order to surprise us?
It may also be that they want to make sure initial users have a positive experience. If this "surprise" is what I think it is then at least one part that is available early (probably due to arrangements that needed to be made with a large computer company) has recieved several terrible reviews by users not familiar with Logos software.
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alabama24 said:Tes said:
Which are these?
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement.
You need to pass it before you know what's in it. [:P] The problem here is that you're not supposed to use it yet, but what is it you're not supposed to use?
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
What could we use that we should not be using so we don't use what we should use. Right?
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Alexander Longacre said:George Somsel said:
What could we use that we should not be using so we don't use what we should use. Right?
Ummm, the possible harmony of using what was not supposed to be used that got used, that wasn’t ready to be used but was unintentionally used anyway. But still was used…….
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I thought it was new, and now everyone is saying it is used!
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Me clicker-finger needs taped......
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"Please don't try it until you get the announcement, or you could lose data!" I think this statement increases more fuel for curiosity than warning.
Blessings in Christ.
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Tes said:
"Please don't try it until you get the announcement, or you could lose data!" I think this statement increases more fuel for curiosity than warning.
It could be intentionally meant to arouse curiosity. Or it could be merely designed to cover their bases, so that nobody gets angry at Logos if they do lose some data after trying an unreleased product. Either way, I think they've now closed the holes so people who hadn't already downloaded it can't see it, and the ones who've seen it already feel so special they wouldn't want to share their secret with others who haven't seen it yet. [:)]
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Rosie Perera said:
It could be intentionally meant to arouse curiosity. Or it could be merely designed to cover their bases, so that nobody gets angry at Logos if they do lose some data after trying an unreleased product. Either way, I think they've now closed the holes so people who hadn't already downloaded it can't see it, and the ones who've seen it already feel so special they wouldn't want to share their secret with others who haven't seen it yet.
Well sorta [;)] …it was rather intriguing and interesting…[:P]
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Rosie Perera said:Tes said:
"Please don't try it until you get the announcement, or you could lose data!" I think this statement increases more fuel for curiosity than warning.
It could be intentionally meant to arouse curiosity. Or it could be merely designed to cover their bases, so that nobody gets angry at Logos if they do lose some data after trying an unreleased product. Either way, I think they've now closed the holes so people who hadn't already downloaded it can't see it, and the ones who've seen it already feel so special they wouldn't want to share their secret with others who haven't seen it yet.
Something is rotten in the State of Denmark. Why would something which is not yet ready for prime time and which is potentially hazardous to data security be available for use?
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
Something is rotten in the State of Denmark. Why would something which is not yet ready for prime time and which is potentially hazardous to data security be available for use?
Read Bob's clarification. It's not hazardous to data security. It's only if people try to enter data in new features that aren't ready yet--that data could be cleared.
And I believe the availability was an accident.
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George Somsel said:
Something is rotten in the State of Denmark. [...]
I thought it was Jewrsie[Jersey- for non-slangers]...?
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Todd Phillips said:George Somsel said:
Something is rotten in the State of Denmark. Why would something which is not yet ready for prime time and which is potentially hazardous to data security be available for use?
Read Bob's clarification. It's not hazardous to data security. It's only if people try to enter data in new features that aren't ready yet--that data could be cleared.
And I believe the availability was an accident.
Also, Bob posted a status update on Facebook today: "My goal in our conversation was to NOT call attention to FSB yet, even though parts were visible in iTunes, etc." I think they weren't expecting the app to be available so soon in iTunes, but they don't have control over that. They have to submit it to Apple in advance to let it go through their vetting process, and then Apple puts it up for sale as soon as they're ready to. Logos can't tell them to release it on a specific day. So there's some inevitable leakage while they finish putting the other pieces of the thing together for an announcement and public release. I think there was an "oopsie" on the website (something about a coupon? I missed that) which they blocked as soon as they found out about it. And they've been deleting forum threads that they find which give away too much detail about what's in this thing that we're not supposed to be talking about yet.
So I think we should just remain in this state of anticipatory suspense and enjoy it while it lasts. There will be surely some disappointment when we start finding bugs in the new thing, whatever it is. [:#][:)]
Room4more said:I thought it was Jewrsie[Jersey- for non-slangers]...?
I thought it was pronounced "Joyzie"
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Rosie Perera said:
in the new thing, whatever it is
"and the ones who've seen it already feel so special"
I suspect you feel special! (I feel like a kid who snuck into their parents closet and saw their Christmas gifts early.)
My daughter, who was informed of these things at a young age by older brothers, innocently referred to the man in the red suit as Santa Closet.
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Rosie Perera said:Room4more said:
I thought it was Jewrsie[Jersey- for non-slangers]...?
I thought it was pronounced "Joyzie"
rrriiiiggghhhttt!!! I was trying to think of the ebonics and could not remember the placement of the rolling 'r' ...thanks.
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[N] I ain't got no bugs in my thang. [N]Rosie Perera said:There will be surely some disappointment when we start finding bugs in the new thing
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Jerry M said:
(I feel like a kid who snuck into their parents closet and saw their Christmas gifts early.)
I remember doing that -- unwrapping at least one of my Christmas gifts that my parents had hidden behind the big chair in my Dad's study. When they found out I'd done it (kinda obvious; kids can't rewrap as neatly as Santa did), I wasn't allowed to have those presents for some time after Christmas. Now if I were to say anything more about what I might or might not know about this secret, I wouldn't be allowed to use it for a month after it ships. [;)]
Jerry M said:My daughter, who was informed of these things at a young age by older brothers, innocently referred to the man in the red suit as Santa Closet.
Hee hee!
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Room4more said:Rosie Perera said:Room4more said:
I thought it was Jewrsie[Jersey- for non-slangers]...?
I thought it was pronounced "Joyzie"
rrriiiiggghhhttt!!! I was trying to think of the ebonics and could not remember the placement of the rolling 'r' ...thanks.
It reminds me of the one NJ joke I know:
"You from Joyzie?"
"Yup. You too?"
"Yup. What exit?"
(everything in Joyzie is located by what exit it's near on the NJ Turnpike).
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Rosie Perera said:Room4more said:Rosie Perera said:Room4more said:
I thought it was Jewrsie[Jersey- for non-slangers]...?
I thought it was pronounced "Joyzie"
rrriiiiggghhhttt!!! I was trying to think of the ebonics and could not remember the placement of the rolling 'r' ...thanks.
It reminds me of the one NJ joke I know:
"You from Joyzie?"
"Yup. You too?"
"Yup. What exit?"
(everything in Joyzie is located by what exit it's near on the NJ Turnpike).
thurdy thurd n thurd
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Jerry M said:
My daughter, who was informed of these things at a young age by older brothers, innocently referred to the man in the red suit as Santa Closet.
And here I referred to him as Uncle Doc.[:D]
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Thanks George! [*-)] [:O]
This went downhill fast....so what was that about Denmark? [:D]
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Rosie Perera said:
Also, Bob posted a status update on Facebook today:
Sigh... that was a reply to a direct message tweet that I accidentally sent public. I deleted it 3 seconds later, but forgot Facebook gets copies of my tweets instantly.
It's getting very hard to "not call attention" to things when even my Facebook friends (cough, cough... <smile>) are re-posting status updates that themselves say I'm trying not to call attention to the subject...
:-)
You're forcing my hand. We'll go public as soon as we can, but it's going to be "beta"...
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Bob Pritchett said:
Sigh... that was a reply to a direct message tweet that I accidentally sent public
You should run for congress [:D][:D][:D]
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Bob Pritchett said:Rosie Perera said:
Also, Bob posted a status update on Facebook today:
Sigh... that was a reply to a direct message tweet that I accidentally sent public. I deleted it 3 seconds later, but forgot Facebook gets copies of my tweets instantly.
It's getting very hard to "not call attention" to things when even my Facebook friends (cough, cough... <smile>) are re-posting status updates that themselves say I'm trying not to call attention to the subject...
:-)
You're forcing my hand. We'll go public as soon as we can, but it's going to be "beta"...
Sorry. [:$]
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Bob Pritchett said:Rosie Perera said:
Also, Bob posted a status update on Facebook today:
Sigh... that was a reply to a direct message tweet that I accidentally sent public. I deleted it 3 seconds later, but forgot Facebook gets copies of my tweets instantly.
It's getting very hard to "not call attention" to things when even my Facebook friends (cough, cough... <smile>) are re-posting status updates that themselves say I'm trying not to call attention to the subject...
:-)
You're forcing my hand. We'll go public as soon as we can, but it's going to be "beta"...
It must be Providence Bob! Even your Facebook account points to God saying, let my features go!
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Bob Pritchett said:Rosie Perera said:
Also, Bob posted a status update on Facebook today:
Sigh... that was a reply to a direct message tweet that I accidentally sent public. I deleted it 3 seconds later, but forgot Facebook gets copies of my tweets instantly.
It's getting very hard to "not call attention" to things when even my Facebook friends (cough, cough... <smile>) are re-posting status updates that themselves say I'm trying not to call attention to the subject...
:-)
You're forcing my hand. We'll go public as soon as we can, but it's going to be "beta"...
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I may be dooming this thread to deletion, but there is now a FaithLife beta forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/101.aspx
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Room4more said:
Thanks George!
This went downhill fast....so what was that about Denmark?
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He waxes desperate with imagination. 87
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Let’s follow; ’tis not fit thus to obey him. 88
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Have after. To what issue will this come? 89
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Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. 90
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Heaven will direct it. 91
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Nay, let’s follow him.george
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David Carter said:Bob Pritchett said:
Sigh... that was a reply to a direct message tweet that I accidentally sent public
You should run for congress
Nah—I'd rather refer to him as "Bob" rather than "Hot Dog." [:#]
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Alexander Longacre said:
It must be Providence Bob! Even your Facebook account points to God saying, let my features go!
[:D]
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Robert M. Warren said:
I may be dooming this thread to deletion, but there is now a FaithLife beta forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/101.aspx
We're giving up. :-) You can check it out -- though it's a beta release!
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Bob Pritchett said:
We're giving up. :-) You can check it out -- though it's a beta release!
Ah ! So that's the big secret. I'm in, but I haven't done anything with it yet.
george
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Rosie Perera said:
(everything in Joyzie is located by what exit it's near on the NJ Turnpike).
Hey! Or the Garden State Parkway. Can't get to the Joizie shore from up north widout that.
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Mark Smith said:Rosie Perera said:
(everything in Joyzie is located by what exit it's near on the NJ Turnpike).
Hey! Or the Garden State Parkway. Can't get to the Joizie shore from up north widout that.
Ah, but the classic experience of driving through NJ is knowing by your nose that you're passing through Elizabeth on I-95. I haven't been through there since about 1985. I wonder if they've cleaned it up by now? It smelled horrible!
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Rosie Perera said:
Ah, but the classic experience of driving through NJ is knowing by your nose that you're passing through Elizabeth on I-95. I haven't been through there since about 1985. I wonder if they've cleaned it up by now? It smelled horrible!
You are correct, but it is much better now. Actually think some of those refineries have been shut down.
As a kid traveling to my Grandmother's on Long Island from PA we knew to roll up the car windows when we got near the refineries. Can't imagine living in the area at the time.
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The problem here is that you're not supposed to use it yet, but what is it you're not supposed to use?
