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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Mar 14 2012 8:42 PM

We've got a big project in the works -- but it's not ready.

Please don't try it until you get the announcement, or you could lose data!

Because it's so big, and connects so many parts of the Logos platform together, it's been hard to keep all the parts under wraps while testing their integration with the rest of our system. While this is a "never done" type project that will keep growing, we want to make sure your first experience is a good one, and that everything in the first release is rock solid.

It's not yet. We know it -- that's why it's unreleased! :-)

I know it's frustrating to wait, but I think it's going to be worth it.

Thanks!

-- Bob

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 14 2012 8:56 PM

Hey thanks for the heads up Bob.

Always looking forward to what the techies will bring us.

 

Thanks again

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 14 2012 11:03 PM

Bob Pritchett:
you could lose data!

What can you tell those who have already been trying it?  What kind of data could they lose?  Should they be looking for a problem?

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 12:15 AM

Jerry M:
What kind of data could they lose?  Should they be looking for a problem?

I've consulted the team, and data loss may not happen. What would be at risk would be anything added specifically inside the new features some people were playing with today -- nothing that would affect your existing Logos data.

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 4:37 AM

Bob Pritchett:
Please don't try it until you get the announcement, or you could lose data!

Which are these?

Blessings in Christ.

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alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 4:43 AM

Tes:
Which are these?

It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement. Wink

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 4:51 AM

alabama24:
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement.

I wounder why it should be secret? What is the disadvantage? Is that in order to surprise us?

Blessings in Christ.

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 4:53 AM

alabama24:
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement.

I wounder why it should be secret ,is that in order to surprise us?

Blessings in Christ.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 5:10 AM

Tes:

alabama24:
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement.

I wounder why it should be secret ,is that in order to surprise us?

Surprise IS part of it Tes.  Additionally in situations like this there may be some arrangements with other people that need to be protected.  

In this case I think it's more about a desire to unveil the whole shiny item all at once, rather than just one corner at a time.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 5:34 AM

Tes:

alabama24:
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement.

I wounder why it should be secret ,is that in order to surprise us?

Yes, it's because it raises more excitement if people get to see it all finished, rather than leaking partial truths about it before they know what the whole thing is going to look like. Also, if users begin to see parts of it that are accidentally released and it isn't fully functional, they might have negative reactions to it.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 6:20 AM

Rosie Perera:

Tes:

alabama24:
It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement.

I wounder why it should be secret ,is that in order to surprise us?

Yes, it's because it raises more excitement if people get to see it all finished, rather than leaking partial truths about it before they know what the whole thing is going to look like. Also, if users begin to see parts of it that are accidentally released and it isn't fully functional, they might have negative reactions to it.

I think you may have got the reason for the overall "secrecy" - however, I think Logos orchestrates the "leaking" of small tidbits in order to generate anticipation. Dan twittered about it. It features prominently as "the secret floor" in the tour. There's a new tab in biblia.com. There's a website. There are threads on the forum that reveal some of the news and Logos lets them run for some time and then hides them, so people start asking about it.  

Actually, three users tested some of the new functionality yesterday (call it a sort of "pre-beta") and provided infos for Logos regarding usage, bugs etc. Nothing big, but the threads where this was discussed - including some screenshots and a user-made video - ran for several hours until they were pulled. I hope it helps the developers to put the last finishing touches on the new thing.

Thus, I'd rather rephrase your concluding remark: Users begin to see parts of it that Logos releases temporarily, get a glimpse of the new functionality and become eager to try it for themselves - this helps building momentum and it also bridges the time between when the users would like to see the new thing and when it actually gets released. I personally like what I have seen so far, and it allows for new things many of us wanted to do but couldn't accomplish yet.  

 

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Edwin Bowden | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 6:24 AM

I stumbled upon the "secret" project and got charged $29.95 when I tried to get the free subscription. It's now in my Logos library

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 6:28 AM

Edwin Bowden:

I stumbled upon the "secret" project and got charged $29.95 when I tried to get the free subscription. It's now in my Logos library

There was a not-so secret coupon code for the free subscription (which didn't work for me in the coupon code field, but in the "get the free subscription" field). Maybe Customer Service can take the product back and you can re-subscribe for free.

The associated resource is really cool - don't you agree? 

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Mike W | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 7:55 AM

Tes:

I wounder why it should be secret ,is that in order to surprise us?

It may also be that they want to make sure initial users have a positive experience.  If this "surprise" is what I think it is then at least one part that is available early (probably due to arrangements that needed to be made with a large computer company) has recieved several terrible reviews by users not familiar with Logos software.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 8:35 AM

alabama24:

Tes:
Which are these?

It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement. Wink

You need to pass it before you know what's in it.  Stick out tongue  The problem here is that you're not supposed to use it yet, but what is it you're not supposed to use?

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Alexander | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 8:43 AM

George Somsel:

alabama24:

Tes:
Which are these?

It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement. Wink

 

You need to pass it before you know what's in it.  Stick out tongue  The problem here is that you're not supposed to use it yet, but what is it you're not supposed to use?

What could we use that we should not be using so we don't use what we should use. Right?

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 8:48 AM

Alexander Longacre:

George Somsel:

alabama24:

Tes:
Which are these?

It's supposed to be a secret… you'll just have to wait for the announcement. Wink

 

You need to pass it before you know what's in it.  Stick out tongue  The problem here is that you're not supposed to use it yet, but what is it you're not supposed to use?

What could we use that we should not be using so we don't use what we should use. Right?

Ummm, the possible harmony of using what was not supposed to be used that got used, that wasn’t ready to be used but was unintentionally used anyway. But still was used…….

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 10:21 AM

I thought it was new, and now everyone is saying it is used!

 

 

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Room4more | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 10:27 AM

Me clicker-finger needs taped......

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 15 2012 12:40 PM

"Please don't try it until you get the announcement, or you could lose data!" I think this statement increases more fuel for curiosity than warning.

Blessings in Christ.

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