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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2012 6:04 PM

I've got the SESB on my Wish List and I noticed it's no longer showing up as a product in the store? What happened?

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 7:11 PM

Nathan,

The SESB collections were available this afternoon when I was looking for something else. They are gone now. I don't know what is going on except that the SESB is not going to be updated for Logos 4 and that recently some of the collection was broken up for individual sale: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/41600/355298.aspx#355298

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 7:20 PM

Mark Smith:

Nathan,

The SESB collections were available this afternoon when I was looking for something else. They are gone now. I don't know what is going on except that the SESB is not going to be updated for Logos 4 and that recently some of the collection was broken up for individual sale: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/41600/355298.aspx#355298

Thanks for the info. So I guess I'll need to buy each title individually if I want "SESB" in L4?

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 7:23 PM

Actually, SESB is still there! Just new name!

http://www.logos.com/product/18617/german-bible-society-bundle

Seems like a lower price too (at least for Academic users). Nice!

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Josh | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 7:50 PM

Nathan Parker:

Actually, SESB is still there! Just new name!

http://www.logos.com/product/18617/german-bible-society-bundle

Seems like a lower price too (at least for Academic users). Nice!

I'm pretty sure there is no academic discount. The price is $280 for everyone.

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 8:12 PM

I don't see the 18 volume set that used to be there either.  I guess since they broke up the set the collection is gone.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 8:32 PM

Nathan Parker:
Seems like a lower price too (at least for Academic users). Nice!

I hope it is for you, Nathan. The former SESB upgrade for Logos users was $179. I am now very grateful I finally decided to buy it a month ago (thank you Logos Christmas credit!).

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 8:47 PM

Nathan Parker:

Actually, SESB is still there! Just new name!

http://www.logos.com/product/18617/german-bible-society-bundle

Seems like a lower price too (at least for Academic users). Nice!

It's a lower price because it's not the complete thing. It's missing the French Bibles, for example (La Nouvelle Bible Segond; Traduction Oecumenique de la Bible; La Bible en français courant). Those where what I was holding out for, hoping they'd split them out someday. But they seem to have disappeared, as have all the other foreign language bibles, and a bunch of other stuff. Here's what the SESB 3.0 used to contain (courtesy of the Internet Archive Wayback Machine):

Original Language Editions

  • Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia
  • Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia with text critical apparatus and linguistic WIVU database
  • Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia: Workgroep Informatica Constituency Tree Analysis
  • Biblia Hebraica Quinta (BHQ) fascicles Deuteronomy, Megilloth, Esther, Ezra, Nehemiah, Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes, Lamentations
  • Biblia Hebraica Quinta (BHQ) text critical apparatus
  • Novum Testamentum Graece (Nestle-Aland, 27th edition)
  • Novum Testamentum Graece (Nestle-Aland, 27th edition) with text critical apparatus and mophological Gramcord database
  • The Greek New Testament (UBS edition) with text critical apparatus, cross reference apparatus and segmentation apparatus
  • Septuagint/Greek Old Testament (eds. Rahlfs/Hanhart, editio altera)
  • Septuagint/Greek Old Testament (eds. Rahlfs/Hanhart, editio altera) with text critical apparatus and morphological CATSS database
  • Vulgate/Latin Bible, (5th edition, eds. Weber/Gryson)
  • Vulgate/Latin Bible, (5th edition, eds. Weber/Gryson) text critical apparatus
  • Biblia Sacra Vulgata: Psalmi iuxta Hebraicum et Varia Lectio
  • Biblia Sacra Vulgata: Psalmi iuxta Hebraicum et Varia Lectio (Apparatus) 
  • The Gospel According to Thomas in Coptic
  • The Gospel According to Thomas in Greek
  • The Gospel According to Thomas in English 
  • The Gospel According to Thomas in German
  • The Apostolic Fathers (ed. Lightfoot) in Greek and English

Dictionaries and Reference Works

  • A Hebrew/Aramaic-English and Hebrew/Aramaic-German Dictionary of the Old Testament (ed. WIVU), by Bosman, Oosting, Postma
  • A Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint, by Lust, Eynikel, and Hauspie
  • A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament, by B.M. Newman
  • Kleines Wörterbuch zum Neuen Testament Griechisch-Deutsch, by R. Kassühlke
  • A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, by B. Metzger
  • A Textual Guide on the Greek New Testament, by R. Omanson
  • The Gospel of Thomas: Original Text with Commentary (English and German), by U.-K. Plisch
  • WiBiLex-Keyword-Index, by Koenen, Bauks

English Bibles

  • New Revised Standard Version
  • New International Version
  • King James Version
  • King James Version Apocrypha

German Bibles

  • Lutherbibel 1984/1999, with lemmatization
  • Lutherbibel 1912
  • Zürcher Bibel 2007, with lemmatization
  • Gute Nachricht Bibel 1997/2000, with lemmatization
  • Einheitsübersetzung with lemmatization
  • Elberfelder Bibel with lemmatization
  • Die Schrift, verdeutscht von Martin Buber und Franz Rosenzweig

French Bibles

  • La Nouvelle Bible Segond
  • Traduction Oecumenique de la Bible
  • La Bible en français courant. Edition revise

Dutch Bibles

  • NBG-vertaling 1951
  • Staten Vertaling
  • De Nieuwe Bijbelvertaling
  • Willibrordvertaling
  • Groot Nieuws Bijbel

Norwegian Bibles

  • Den Heilage Skrifta. Bibelen, 1978/1985 (Bokmal und Nynorsk)
  • Det Nye Testamentet, 2005 (Bokmal und Nynorsk)

Danish Bibles

  • Bibelen. Den hellige Skrifts Kanoniske Bøger 1992
  • Bibelen (Old Testament 1931, New Testament 1943)

Russian Bibles

  • Russian Synodal Version
  • Russian Modern New Testament

Bible in Modern Greek

  • Today's Greek Version (He Hagia Graph)

 

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 10:13 PM

Josh:

Nathan Parker:

Actually, SESB is still there! Just new name!

http://www.logos.com/product/18617/german-bible-society-bundle

Seems like a lower price too (at least for Academic users). Nice!

I'm pretty sure there is no academic discount. The price is $280 for everyone.

OK, sounds good. I'm logged in as Academic so hard to tell for me. Thanks for the clarification!

 

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 10:13 PM

Mark Smith:

Nathan Parker:
Seems like a lower price too (at least for Academic users). Nice!

I hope it is for you, Nathan. The former SESB upgrade for Logos users was $179. I am now very grateful I finally decided to buy it a month ago (thank you Logos Christmas credit!).

Mark Smith:

 

Nathan Parker:
Seems like a lower price too (at least for Academic users). Nice!

I hope it is for you, Nathan. The former SESB upgrade for Logos users was $179. I am now very grateful I finally decided to buy it a month ago (thank you Logos Christmas credit!).

I was going to go for that one but thought getting the "full" SESB was better since it contains more books?

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 10:14 PM

Rosie Perera:

Nathan Parker:

Actually, SESB is still there! Just new name!

http://www.logos.com/product/18617/german-bible-society-bundle

Seems like a lower price too (at least for Academic users). Nice!

It's a lower price because it's not the complete thing. It's missing the French Bibles, for example (La Nouvelle Bible Segond; Traduction Oecumenique de la Bible; La Bible en français courant). Those where what I was holding out for, hoping they'd split them out someday. But they seem to have disappeared, as have all the other foreign language bibles, and a bunch of other stuff. Here's what the SESB 3.0 used to contain (courtesy of the Internet Archive Wayback Machine):

Original Language Editions

  • Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia
  • Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia with text critical apparatus and linguistic WIVU database
  • Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia: Workgroep Informatica Constituency Tree Analysis
  • Biblia Hebraica Quinta (BHQ) fascicles Deuteronomy, Megilloth, Esther, Ezra, Nehemiah, Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes, Lamentations
  • Biblia Hebraica Quinta (BHQ) text critical apparatus
  • Novum Testamentum Graece (Nestle-Aland, 27th edition)
  • Novum Testamentum Graece (Nestle-Aland, 27th edition) with text critical apparatus and mophological Gramcord database
  • The Greek New Testament (UBS edition) with text critical apparatus, cross reference apparatus and segmentation apparatus
  • Septuagint/Greek Old Testament (eds. Rahlfs/Hanhart, editio altera)
  • Septuagint/Greek Old Testament (eds. Rahlfs/Hanhart, editio altera) with text critical apparatus and morphological CATSS database
  • Vulgate/Latin Bible, (5th edition, eds. Weber/Gryson)
  • Vulgate/Latin Bible, (5th edition, eds. Weber/Gryson) text critical apparatus
  • Biblia Sacra Vulgata: Psalmi iuxta Hebraicum et Varia Lectio
  • Biblia Sacra Vulgata: Psalmi iuxta Hebraicum et Varia Lectio (Apparatus) 
  • The Gospel According to Thomas in Coptic
  • The Gospel According to Thomas in Greek
  • The Gospel According to Thomas in English 
  • The Gospel According to Thomas in German
  • The Apostolic Fathers (ed. Lightfoot) in Greek and English

Dictionaries and Reference Works

  • A Hebrew/Aramaic-English and Hebrew/Aramaic-German Dictionary of the Old Testament (ed. WIVU), by Bosman, Oosting, Postma
  • A Greek-English Lexicon of the Septuagint, by Lust, Eynikel, and Hauspie
  • A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament, by B.M. Newman
  • Kleines Wörterbuch zum Neuen Testament Griechisch-Deutsch, by R. Kassühlke
  • A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, by B. Metzger
  • A Textual Guide on the Greek New Testament, by R. Omanson
  • The Gospel of Thomas: Original Text with Commentary (English and German), by U.-K. Plisch
  • WiBiLex-Keyword-Index, by Koenen, Bauks

English Bibles

  • New Revised Standard Version
  • New International Version
  • King James Version
  • King James Version Apocrypha

German Bibles

  • Lutherbibel 1984/1999, with lemmatization
  • Lutherbibel 1912
  • Zürcher Bibel 2007, with lemmatization
  • Gute Nachricht Bibel 1997/2000, with lemmatization
  • Einheitsübersetzung with lemmatization
  • Elberfelder Bibel with lemmatization
  • Die Schrift, verdeutscht von Martin Buber und Franz Rosenzweig

French Bibles

  • La Nouvelle Bible Segond
  • Traduction Oecumenique de la Bible
  • La Bible en français courant. Edition revise

Dutch Bibles

  • NBG-vertaling 1951
  • Staten Vertaling
  • De Nieuwe Bijbelvertaling
  • Willibrordvertaling
  • Groot Nieuws Bijbel

Norwegian Bibles

  • Den Heilage Skrifta. Bibelen, 1978/1985 (Bokmal und Nynorsk)
  • Det Nye Testamentet, 2005 (Bokmal und Nynorsk)

Danish Bibles

  • Bibelen. Den hellige Skrifts Kanoniske Bøger 1992
  • Bibelen (Old Testament 1931, New Testament 1943)

Russian Bibles

  • Russian Synodal Version
  • Russian Modern New Testament

Bible in Modern Greek

  • Today's Greek Version (He Hagia Graph)

 

I see. So it's not really the full SESB then, but just some of the core books at a discounted price from the SESB. Kind of in the middle of the full SESB and Logos Upgrade editions.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 26 2012 11:45 PM

Rosie Perera:
it's not the complete thing. It's missing the French Bibles, for example (...). Those where what I was holding out for, hoping they'd split them out someday. But they seem to have disappeared, as have all the other foreign language bibles, and a bunch of other stuff. Here's what the SESB 3.0 used to contain

Back in another thread where there was discussion of the differences of the former SESB 52 Vol versus 18 Vol packages, I set up an Excel-Sheet for comparison. I now whipped up the new product page into it, to clarify, since Logos is not always cocnsistent with naming and counting of resources:

1563.Matching SESB editions.update.xlsx

 

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Schamma | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2012 12:32 AM

NB.Mick:

Back in another thread where there was discussion of the differences of the former SESB 52 Vol versus 18 Vol packages, I set up an Excel-Sheet for comparison. I now whipped up the new product page into it, to clarify, since Logos is not always cocnsistent with naming and counting of resources:

1563.Matching SESB editions.update.xlsx

 

Very helpful! - Thank you!  Smile

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Eric Weiss | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2012 5:16 AM

FWIW, I got the 18-vol set but then thought about Omanson and GThomas @$50 additional apiece, and decided to spend the extra $45 on top of that and just get the whole 52-vol set, so I returned the 18-vol set and got the full 52-vol set in case I liked the Constituency Tree thing when it was updated to Logos 4.

I hope the Constituency Tree will still be worked on by the German Bible Society. When people said SESB might go away, I decided to be cautious and buy it all.

It looks like I probably did end up paying $45 more than I needed to, as I think Platinum covers much of what's lacking in this new bundle. I guess I could still return SESB 52-vol and buy this new 28-vol set instead and save $45. Stick out tongue

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2012 10:45 AM

destinatio:

NB.Mick:

Back in another thread where there was discussion of the differences of the former SESB 52 Vol versus 18 Vol packages, I set up an Excel-Sheet for comparison. I now whipped up the new product page into it, to clarify, since Logos is not always cocnsistent with naming and counting of resources:

1563.Matching SESB editions.update.xlsx

 

Very helpful! - Thank you!  Smile

Sure is! Thanks!

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Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2012 10:46 AM

Eric Weiss:

FWIW, I got the 18-vol set but then thought about Omanson and GThomas @$50 additional apiece, and decided to spend the extra $45 on top of that and just get the whole 52-vol set, so I returned the 18-vol set and got the full 52-vol set in case I liked the Constituency Tree thing when it was updated to Logos 4.

I hope the Constituency Tree will still be worked on by the German Bible Society. When people said SESB might go away, I decided to be cautious and buy it all.

It looks like I probably did end up paying $45 more than I needed to, as I think Platinum covers much of what's lacking in this new bundle. I guess I could still return SESB 52-vol and buy this new 28-vol set instead and save $45. Stick out tongue

So between Platinum (which I have) and the new set, I should be "set" (no pun intended)? :-)

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Eric Weiss | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 27 2012 11:41 AM

Nathan Parker:

Eric Weiss:

FWIW, I got the 18-vol set but then thought about Omanson and GThomas @$50 additional apiece, and decided to spend the extra $45 on top of that and just get the whole 52-vol set, so I returned the 18-vol set and got the full 52-vol set in case I liked the Constituency Tree thing when it was updated to Logos 4.

I hope the Constituency Tree will still be worked on by the German Bible Society. When people said SESB might go away, I decided to be cautious and buy it all.

It looks like I probably did end up paying $45 more than I needed to, as I think Platinum covers much of what's lacking in this new bundle. I guess I could still return SESB 52-vol and buy this new 28-vol set instead and save $45. Stick out tongue

So between Platinum (which I have) and the new set, I should be "set" (no pun intended)? :-)

You'll probably have to determine that for yourself from the spreadsheet comparison.

 

Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)

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Jason Brueckner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 8 2012 8:46 PM

So, the only option for getting the NA27 critical apparatus for L4 is to purchase this german bible society bundle??

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, May 8 2012 11:08 PM

Jason B.:

So, the only option for getting the NA27 critical apparatus for L4 is to purchase this german bible society bundle??

No. Logos split up the former SESB resources so you may buy them separately. Look here for NA 27 with apparatus: http://www.logos.com/product/17655/na27-with-critical-apparatus , here for UBS 4: http://www.logos.com/product/17646/the-greek-new-testament-fourth-revised-edition

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Jason Brueckner | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 9 2012 4:03 AM

100 dollars!!!?

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