Please remember sort column in Library from session to session

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Nov 30 2012 2:14 AM

I like to view my library sorted by Last Updated. I have to click that column heading so frequently it has really gotten tiresome. There are certainly times I open the Library when I don't care what order it's in because I'm going to filter it anyway, so I don't have to click the Last Updated column heading. But I almost never want to browse through it in alphabetical order, so having that be the default is pointless (for me). Having the alphabetically first resources (all the ones that begin with the number 1) face me every single time I open my Library has gotten really old.

So...

Please remember what column we have our Library sorted by (and which direction it's sorted in) from session to session.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 2:33 AM

Rosie Perera:
Please remember what column we have our Library sorted by (and which direction it's sorted in) from session to session.

Yes Yes Yes

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 2:59 AM

From BUG and annoyances: Logos' bad memory (first reported Feb 29, [finally] recognized by Logos June 7):

Ann Boyles:

fgh:

b) Library. When I close down with the Library open, I would wish it opened the way I left off, but currently I can't even make my choices stick in a saved layout. E g yesterday I created a specific Layout to create PB's in. It included the Library sorted by Last Updated and had edition:user in the reference box, so that I would only see the PB's -- but, of course, when I next opened it, both of those settings were gone. 

I have created a case for this.

The bad news is, nothing's happened since.Sad  (I too usually want my Library sorted by Last Updated.)

 

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 3:15 AM

 

Yes Please!  

And when I have sorted by Last Updated, I probably don't want the scroll bar stuck perpetually 2/3 of the way down on something--apparently John Bunyan's "The Barren Fig Tree," or something nearby from Oct 1, 2011.   

 

However, Just have to say it one more time,  I LOVE Logos 5 Yes

 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 3:28 AM

Gao Lu:
when I have sorted by Last Updated, I probably don't want the scroll bar stuck perpetually 2/3 of the way down on something

Gao,

the library will be at the position of the book that was focused before you sorted. If you had just opened the library, this automatically is the first title in alphanumeric sort. For me this would normally be a biblical manuscript numbered 0162.... Theres an easy workaround: regularly rebuild a PB with a title that is up in the alpha-sorted titles (for me: "# Index of the Early Church Fathers" - note the hash symbol in the title) and it will be high up in alpha-sort as well as in last updated.

Okay, a configurable default sort on open (if it really is so hard to remember the last sort order - as opposed to column width and order etc...) would perhaps be a little bit more convenient. But the workaround does the trick.

Mick

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 5:28 AM

Rosie Perera:
Please remember what column we have our Library sorted by (and which direction it's sorted in) from session to session.

Absolutely! And while we're at it, remember the size of the library floating window, too. I only access the Library via Ctrl-L (Windows), and it always comes up in the middle of the screen occupying about 1/2 the screen width and height. My first two steps are to maximize it and then to sort by Last Updated. I wrote 16-bit Windows apps that remembered things like this in the early '90s. Seems like Logos could do this, too. ;)

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 8:31 AM

Donnie Hale:

Rosie Perera:
Please remember what column we have our Library sorted by (and which direction it's sorted in) from session to session.

Absolutely! And while we're at it, remember the size of the library floating window, too. I only access the Library via Ctrl-L (Windows), and it always comes up in the middle of the screen occupying about 1/2 the screen width and height. My first two steps are to maximize it and then to sort by Last Updated. I wrote 16-bit Windows apps that remembered things like this in the early '90s. Seems like Logos could do this, too. ;)

Donnie

 

Isn't it really easy enough to simply click on the column you want to sort by and drag the slider to the top?  I can think of a few things that would be desireable from a functional standpoint such as WEIGHTS AND MEASURES !!!!!

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 9:10 AM

George Somsel:
Isn't it really easy enough to simply click on the column you want to sort by

No, it's not, because that column is at the far right, a long way off the screen, and when you've scrolled right, resorted and scrolled back left for the tenth time that day, you are really really tired of it.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 9:20 AM

fgh:

George Somsel:
Isn't it really easy enough to simply click on the column you want to sort by

No, it's not, because that column is at the far right, a long way off the screen, and when you've scrolled right, resorted and scrolled back left for the tenth time that day, you are really really tired of it.

Just grab the corner of the library display and drag it until the column shows.  It will stay that way until you restart Logos and you will be able to see that column easily.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 10:17 AM

You're so predictable, George. It didn't occur to you that I want that column at the far right? That I do not under any circumstance want that column visible? It has no information that I normally need to see, and the columns that I do need to see don't have enough space as it is, so I'm certainly not going to push them off the screen.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 10:36 AM

fgh:

You're so predictable, George. It didn't occur to you that I want that column at the far right? That I do not under any circumstance want that column visible? It has no information that I normally need to see, and the columns that I do need to see don't have enough space as it is, so I'm certainly not going to push them off the screen.

It's not required that you show all columns.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 10:53 AM

Did you leave out a few words in that sentence?

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 11:07 AM

fgh:

Did you leave out a few words in that sentence?

See the edited version.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 11:29 AM

George Somsel:
It's not required that you show all columns.

I don't, but what's that got to do with anything? Didn't you read what I wrote? I don't even have enough screen to show the columns I desperately need to see with the width they really need -- and you're telling me to move the Last Updated column, which I don't need to see, left, so that I get even less room for the columns I need??

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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 11:48 AM

NB.Mick, you're really earning your 'star'. It's a hard row to hoe ... I guess conceivably you have to keep updating the funny-named file?

For me, each time the sort lands me near the bottom (pretty much 10-15 times a day), I am reminded that all the Logos employees (ok .. the ones that use Logos) have to do the same exact thing. Over and over and over.

 


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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 11:59 AM

DMB:

NB.Mick, you're really earning your 'star'. It's a hard row to hoe ... I guess conceivably you have to keep updating the funny-named file?

For me, each time the sort lands me near the bottom (pretty much 10-15 times a day), I am reminded that all the Logos employees (ok .. the ones that use Logos) have to do the same exact thing. Over and over and over.

This problem, on the other hand, I don't understand. I'm always at the top after sorting. Do you have a bug on Windows?

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 12:02 PM

fgh:

George Somsel:
It's not required that you show all columns.

I don't, but what's that got to do with anything? Didn't you read what I wrote? I don't even have enough screen to show the columns I desperately need to see with the width they really need -- and you're telling me to move the Last Updated column, which I don't need to see, left, so that I get even less room for the columns I need??

What's the problem?  Are you afraid you'll break a nail in the process?

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 2:40 PM

George Somsel:
Isn't it really easy enough to simply click on the column you want to sort by and drag the slider to the top?  I can think of a few things that would be desireable from a functional standpoint such as WEIGHTS AND MEASURES !!!!!

Weights and Measures will require another data set. In the first day during which Logos begins developing that data set, an intern can write the code to retain the sort and position of the library window *and* have it tested by their QA group. A stretch goal would be to allow sorting on a secondary column. ;)

Donnie

 

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GaoLu | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 4:29 PM

NB.Mick:

Gao Lu:
when I have sorted by Last Updated, I probably don't want the scroll bar stuck perpetually 2/3 of the way down on something

Gao,

the library will be at the position of the book that was focused before you sorted. If you had just opened the library, this automatically is the first title in alphanumeric sort. For me this would normally be a biblical manuscript numbered 0162.... Theres an easy workaround: regularly rebuild a PB with a title that is up in the alpha-sorted titles (for me: "# Index of the Early Church Fathers" - note the hash symbol in the title) and it will be high up in alpha-sort as well as in last updated.

Okay, a configurable default sort on open (if it really is so hard to remember the last sort order - as opposed to column width and order etc...) would perhaps be a little bit more convenient. But the workaround does the trick.

Mick

That will help!  You are a Genius.

 

 

And right you are.  Upon closer inspection Logos wasn't sorting on Bunyan at all, it was sorting on  "0162 from The Text of the Earliest New Testament Greek Manuscripts" 

 

Incidentally I also use PB's as "labels" to separate prioritized resources--such as a books/labels named:  

"---------------------Bibles-------------------------"

or

"----------------Commentaries------------------"    

 

 

 

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Donnie Hale | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 30 2012 5:08 PM

Gao Lu:

Incidentally I also use PB's as "labels" to separate prioritized resources--such as a books/labels named:  

"---------------------Bibles-------------------------"

or

"----------------Commentaries------------------"    

This is the first means of trying to use this trick in prioritized resources that actually seems reasonable to me. Thanks for passing it on...

Donnie

 

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