BUG: text comparison with Hebrew
Interesting bug behavior involving text comparison. No matter which Hebrew text is placed first in text comparison the font rendered is smaller. see screenshots:
next move font size slider to see if that resolves the issue
same behavior. restart makes no difference.
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Rosie Perera said:
Must be Mac only. I can't reproduce this on Windows using Logos 5.0b SR-1.
Thanks!
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Anon said:
No matter which Hebrew text is placed first in text comparison the font rendered is smaller
I see it too, but not just on the first verse, but on verses 1,4 and 7 (Gen 1:1). Except when the first 'verse' is just a Qumran reference without any actual verse; then it's 3 and 6 instead (Gen 5:5). And if I place BHS before the collection in the latter case it becomes 1,3 and 6.[^o)]
Haven't yet seen your second issue, though.
EDIT: Added to the Feature Parity list:
- PC Text Comparison in Hebrew displays correctly, while Mac displays some verses with smaller font.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh said:Anon said:
No matter which Hebrew text is placed first in text comparison the font rendered is smaller
I see it too, but not just on the first verse, but on verses 1,4 and 7 (Gen 1:1). Except when the first 'verse' is just a Qumran reference without any actual verse; then it's 3 and 6 instead (Gen 5:5). And if I place BHS before the collection in the latter case it becomes 1,3 and 6.
Haven't yet seen your second issue, though.
EDIT: Added to the Feature Parity list:
- PC Text Comparison in Hebrew displays correctly, while Mac displays some verses with smaller font.
Thanks fgh!
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I can replicate and have filed a case for this.
For anyone interested, this is a bug, not a parity issue.
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Tommy Ball said:
I can replicate and have filed a case for this.
Thanks.
Tommy Ball said:For anyone interested, this is a bug, not a parity issue.
I guess I should remove it from the list again then, but Rosie said (and showed) she didn't see it on Windows.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh said:
I guess I should remove it from the list again then, but Rosie said (and showed) she didn't see it on Windows.
We don't consider differing behavior a parity issue in most cases. If see something out of the ordinary operating on the Mac (or Windows) and not the other--like this issue--then reporting it with BUG in the title is a good way of letting us know.
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Ah, I thought you were saying the bug does show up on Windows after all, but you were just talking about your internal terminology.
For the purpose of that Wiki page, however, all Mac specific bugs tend to count as 'feature parity issues', which is a good thing for those of us on Mac. Since KS4J started adding them to that list, they have gotten fixed several months faster than they did before, and generally faster than bugs that occur on both platforms.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh said:
For the purpose of that Wiki page, however, all Mac specific bugs tend to count as 'feature parity issues', which is a good thing for those of us on Mac. Since KS4J started adding them to that list, they have gotten fixed several months faster than they did before, and generally faster than bugs that occur on both platforms.
Ok, sounds good. :-)
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fgh said:
For the purpose of that Wiki page, however, all Mac specific bugs tend to count as 'feature parity issues', which is a good thing for those of us on Mac. Since KS4J started adding them to that list, they have gotten fixed several months faster than they did before, and generally faster than bugs that occur on both platforms.
Actually it's a bad thing for those of you on the Mac. You (as a group) lobby Logos into fixing small display anomalies and thereby taking scarce development resources from fixing more relevant functional bugs that - as you said - affect both platforms. Thus you hurt yourself, if you end up with a Logos application that looks and behaves like the Windows version but e.g. returns questionable search results.Have joy in the Lord!
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Most Mac specific bugs and issues aren't "small display anomalies", and believe me, I'm not even close to having "a Logos application that looks and behaves like the Windows version". When I open Logos it's one long endless fight with bugs and issues of various kinds. If I'm stupid enough to actually try to do something in it, it takes me on average 2-3 hours to get 5 minutes work done, and then another 6-10 to report all the new bugs I've found. I must have hundreds of bugs affecting me, and I find new ones far faster than the devs fix them. I haven't even dared to open most of the new L5 features. I don't have time to deal with all the bugs I'll find if I do.
Besides, "small display anomalies" aren't necessarily small. Not if they make the text too small to read.
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh said:
believe me, I'm not even close to having "a Logos application that looks and behaves like the Windows version". When I open Logos it's one long endless fight with bugs and issues of various kinds.
fgh,
I did not want to address you personally - what we consistently hear about your installation is a pity - but just comment on the logic of whether it's good for Mac users that Logos seemingly put more effort into fixing parity issues than into fixing bugs that affect Mac users without being parity issues, that's all.
No harm and no Mac vs Win dogfight intended.
Mick
Have joy in the Lord!
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Tommy Ball said:
I can replicate and have filed a case for this.
Using Logos 5.1 Beta 2 on OS X 10.8.3 can also replicate Hebrew Text Comparison font size differences:
Puzzled by different font sizes when all panels are set to 100 %. Text Comparison is noticeably smaller. Also noted smaller font size in LHI.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Bump
any word on this?
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When it is confirmed fixed in a beta release (or upcoming beta release) this thread will be udpated.
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This issue will be fixed in 5.1 Beta 7 for beta users, and in general when 5.1 ships to the stable channel.
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Brisa Davis said:
This issue will be fixed in 5.1 Beta 7 for beta users, and in general when 5.1 ships to the stable channel.
sorta fixed in RC1... see below for what still needs resolving.
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I am able to reproduce the issue of "difference" being displayed backwards on Mac for BHS SESB 2.0. I will report this issue to Development.
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Brisa Davis said:
This issue will be fixed in 5.1 Beta 7 for beta users, and in general when 5.1 ships to the stable channel.
Sorry, but I'm still seeing it in RC1, when I use a collection with all my Hebrew Bibles:
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh said:
Sorry, but I'm still seeing it in RC1, when I use a collection with all my Hebrew Bibles:
Using Logos 5.1 RC 1 on OS X 10.8.3 can replicate smallish font in two resources plus another difference:
Keep Smiling [:)]
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can replicate smallish font in two resources
I have verified that this issue has been reported to Development.
plus another difference
I have reported this issue to Development.
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