BUG: text comparison with Hebrew

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Anon | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Mar 3 2013 8:32 PM

Interesting bug behavior involving text comparison.  No matter which Hebrew text is placed first in text comparison the font rendered is smaller.  see screenshots:

 

next move font size slider to see if that resolves the issue

same behavior.  restart makes no difference.

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Anon | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 4 2013 10:56 PM

something I missed when I originally posted - seems to only occur for the second text compared.

anyone else have this behavior? Is it only me? Sad  Is it Mac only? Tongue Tied

 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 4 2013 11:24 PM

Must be Mac only. I can't reproduce this on Windows using Logos 5.0b SR-1.

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Anon | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 4 2013 11:51 PM

Rosie Perera:
Must be Mac only. I can't reproduce this on Windows using Logos 5.0b SR-1.

Thanks!

 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 5 2013 7:04 AM

Anon:
No matter which Hebrew text is placed first in text comparison the font rendered is smaller

I see it too, but not just on the first verse, but on verses 1,4 and 7 (Gen 1:1). Except when the first 'verse' is just a Qumran reference without any actual verse; then it's 3 and 6 instead (Gen 5:5). And if I place BHS before the collection in the latter case it becomes 1,3 and 6.Hmm

Haven't yet seen your second issue, though.

EDIT: Added to the Feature Parity list:

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Anon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 5 2013 10:15 AM

fgh:

Anon:
No matter which Hebrew text is placed first in text comparison the font rendered is smaller

I see it too, but not just on the first verse, but on verses 1,4 and 7 (Gen 1:1). Except when the first 'verse' is just a Qumran reference without any actual verse; then it's 3 and 6 instead (Gen 5:5). And if I place BHS before the collection in the latter case it becomes 1,3 and 6.Hmm

Haven't yet seen your second issue, though.

EDIT: Added to the Feature Parity list:

Thanks fgh!  

 

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 5 2013 10:34 AM

I can replicate and have filed a case for this.

For anyone interested, this is a bug, not a parity issue. 

 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 5 2013 10:40 AM

Tommy Ball:
I can replicate and have filed a case for this.

Thanks.

Tommy Ball:
For anyone interested, this is a bug, not a parity issue. 

I guess I should remove it from the list again then, but Rosie said (and showed) she didn't see it on Windows.

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 5 2013 11:21 AM

fgh:
I guess I should remove it from the list again then, but Rosie said (and showed) she didn't see it on Windows.

We don't consider differing behavior a parity issue in most cases. If see something out of the ordinary operating on the Mac (or Windows) and not the other--like this issue--then reporting it with BUG in the title is a good way of letting us know. 

 

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Anon | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 5 2013 11:29 AM

Tommy Ball:
I can replicate and have filed a case for this.

Thanks!  

 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 5 2013 12:04 PM

Ah, I thought you were saying the bug does show up on Windows after all, but you were just talking about your internal terminology.

For the purpose of that Wiki page, however, all Mac specific bugs tend to count as 'feature parity issues', which is a good thing for those of us on Mac. Since KS4J started adding them to that list, they have gotten fixed several months faster than they did before, and generally faster than bugs that occur on both platforms.

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 5 2013 12:40 PM

fgh:
For the purpose of that Wiki page, however, all Mac specific bugs tend to count as 'feature parity issues', which is a good thing for those of us on Mac. Since KS4J started adding them to that list, they have gotten fixed several months faster than they did before, and generally faster than bugs that occur on both platforms.

Ok, sounds good. :-) 

 

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 6:44 AM

Similar bug in BSL: BUG: bible sense lexicon.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 8:19 AM

fgh:

For the purpose of that Wiki page, however, all Mac specific bugs tend to count as 'feature parity issues', which is a good thing for those of us on Mac. Since KS4J started adding them to that list, they have gotten fixed several months faster than they did before, and generally faster than bugs that occur on both platforms.

  Actually it's a bad thing for those of you on the Mac. You (as a group) lobby Logos into fixing small display anomalies and thereby taking scarce development resources from fixing more relevant functional bugs that - as you said - affect both platforms. Thus you hurt yourself, if you end up with a Logos application that looks and behaves like the Windows version but e.g. returns questionable search results.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 9:17 AM

Most Mac specific bugs and issues aren't "small display anomalies", and believe me, I'm not even close to having "a Logos application that looks and behaves like the Windows version". When I open Logos it's one long endless fight with bugs and issues of various kinds. If I'm stupid enough to actually try to do something in it, it takes me on average 2-3 hours to get 5 minutes work done, and then another 6-10 to report all the new bugs I've found. I must have hundreds of bugs affecting me, and I find new ones far faster than the devs fix them. I haven't even dared to open most of the new L5 features. I don't have time to deal with all the bugs I'll find if I do.

Besides, "small display anomalies" aren't necessarily small. Not if they make the text too small to read.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 10:42 AM

fgh:
believe me, I'm not even close to having "a Logos application that looks and behaves like the Windows version". When I open Logos it's one long endless fight with bugs and issues of various kinds.

fgh,

I did not want to address you personally - what we consistently hear about your installation is a pity - but just comment on the logic of whether it's good for Mac users that Logos seemingly put more effort into fixing parity issues than into fixing bugs that affect Mac users without being parity issues, that's all.

No harm and no Mac vs Win dogfight intended.

Mick

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Anon | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 8 2013 11:00 AM

fgh:

Similar bug in BSL: BUG: bible sense lexicon.

Thanks for referencing this post.

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 17 2013 6:15 PM

Tommy Ball:

I can replicate and have filed a case for this.

Using Logos 5.1 Beta 2 on OS X 10.8.3 can also replicate Hebrew Text Comparison font size differences:

Puzzled by different font sizes when all panels are set to 100 %. Text Comparison is noticeably smaller.  Also noted smaller font size in LHI.

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Anon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 25 2013 3:35 PM

Bump

any word on this?

 

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Thomas Ball | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Apr 26 2013 10:24 AM

When it is confirmed fixed in a beta release (or upcoming beta release) this thread will be udpated. 

 

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