REFORMED PLATINUM bundle.. is this new?

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Kliniac | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 7:10 AM

Stephen McCracken, thanks for pointing that out. I will look into it right away.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 7:16 AM

Kliniac:

Matthew Poole’s Commentary on the Holy Bible (3 vols.) *

Classic Studies on the Scottish Church History (11 vols.) *

Classic Studies on John Knox (15 vols.) *

Select Works of Geerhardus Vos (14 vols.)*

Thanks for pointing out these resources that are still in CP/Prepub. I had orders in for all of them, which totalled $315. And I just bought Platinum for $170! So I'm $145 better off, plus I'll hopefully have some additional resources to enjoy! That's got to be my best value purchase ever!

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 7:21 AM

Mark Barnes:
By the way I am not convinced that it was a good idea to remove NAC. That's an excellent set that adds real value to reformed users. BDAG is a major loss, too, as is Louw-Nida and the Themelios journals. 

I agree Mark, especially about NAC.  It means there aren't any modern expository commentaries in the packages (I don't really count the exegetical summaries as full commentaries).  And I believe Reformed people still use lexicons.  Themelios is a reformed publication too, so it's weird it was removed. 

I guess they had to meet a price point, so some good things got eliminated.

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mike | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 8:10 AM

Kliniac:

The academic discount should be working. If you have any trouble with your purchase, customer service will be more than happy to help you out. Let me know if this is still a problem for you and I will personally look into it.

does the price I reflected online already with the academic discount or do I have to call CS to get it adjusted? Because normally a "package" doesn't reflect with the academic.

it seems to me the price is still a bit high for the resources I already own..

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Kliniac | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 8:30 AM

Disciple of Christ,

One way to solve this is just give sales a call. They can easily generate a list of all the resources you'll get and send it to you right away. They'd love to help you out with that.

I will add a call-out to the product pages to make that clear.

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Kliniac | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 8:34 AM

https://www.logos.com/contact

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Christian Locatell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 9:00 AM

Stephen, the issue with the Galatians Crossway Commentary has been resolved. Thanks for your patience.

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Christian Locatell | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 9:08 AM

PL:

Christian,

If you have the comparison chart between the standard bundles and the new Reformed bundles in Excel format, can you please post it here while the developers work on the dynamic charts on the website?

thx

Peter

PL, 

One way to solve the issue of not having a dynamic comparison chart is just give sales a call. They can easily generate a list of all the resources you'll get and send it to you right away. They'd love to help you out with that.

You can find all the contact info here: https://www.logos.com/contact

I will add a call-out to the product pages to make that clear.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 9:33 AM

Kliniac:

The resources still in production which we are expediting are:

Matthew Poole’s Commentary on the Holy Bible (3 vols.) *

Classic Studies on the Scottish Church History (11 vols.) *

Classic Studies on John Knox (15 vols.) *

Select Works of Geerhardus Vos (14 vols.)*

You forgot one.

The Works of Charles Hodge 

It is now a Pre-Pub. I will be happy to cancel it when I buy the Reformed Platinum package.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 9:52 AM

Mark Barnes:
By the way I am not convinced that it was a good idea to remove NAC.

Don't quote me but this may be the signal that all modern commentaries will be removed from Logos' next offerings. Most have already been stripped out.

I'm glad you reformed people are happy with a package of e-sword style commentary material, but that's what it looks like to me. As I said, the next round of Logos base packages of any stripe are likely to be full of the CP offered PD stuff. What a shame!

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 9:52 AM

Christian Locatell:

Thanks for the suggestion. I will look into that. I definitely agree that we really really need the comparison chart. I tried to push it up in priority, but there was just too many other things going on.

If the priority of such a comparison feature is not increased many will put off purchasing this package until after the introductory pricing expires. I would hate to see them lose out on a 15% savings. Meanwhile, I will be calling my sales rep for a list of "new to me" titles.

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Timothy Jang | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 9:53 AM

I wonder why Reformed Dogmatics (5 vols.) by Vos has no * on it in spite of it being in the category of Pre-ordered. Am I missing something? 

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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 9:54 AM

Mark Barnes:

Kliniac:

Matthew Poole’s Commentary on the Holy Bible (3 vols.) *

Classic Studies on the Scottish Church History (11 vols.) *

Classic Studies on John Knox (15 vols.) *

Select Works of Geerhardus Vos (14 vols.)*

Thanks for pointing out these resources that are still in CP/Prepub. I had orders in for all of them, which totalled $315. And I just bought Platinum for $170! So I'm $145 better off, plus I'll hopefully have some additional resources to enjoy! That's got to be my best value purchase ever!

This is a good point, especially for our existing users. If you have bids or pre-orders on something in one of these new Base Packages, check with Sales to see if it's a better deal for you to just upgrade to one of the Reformed Base Packages instead. In some cases, you can get more content for a minimal cost, or you might even save money overall (as with Mark's case).

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Evan Boardman | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 9:55 AM

With all the reformed stuff that I have I was expecting a lower price, esp. when a major commentary like the NAC is missing. For a Reformed dude, this guy would of liked to see more modern commentaries or a lower price.

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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 9:55 AM

Hojune:

I wonder why Reformed Dogmatics (5 vols.) by Vos has no * on it in spite of it being in the category of Pre-ordered. Am I missing something? 

The first few volumes of this resource have already shipped, and the rest will follow as they are translated. But you're right, it could probably stand to have some sort of indicator as to its status on the Base Package product pages.

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Gabe Martini (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 10:08 AM

Todd Phillips:

Mark Barnes:
By the way I am not convinced that it was a good idea to remove NAC. That's an excellent set that adds real value to reformed users. BDAG is a major loss, too, as is Louw-Nida and the Themelios journals. 

I agree Mark, especially about NAC.  It means there aren't any modern expository commentaries in the packages (I don't really count the exegetical summaries as full commentaries).  And I believe Reformed people still use lexicons.  Themelios is a reformed publication too, so it's weird it was removed. 

I guess they had to meet a price point, so some good things got eliminated.

Long story-short, we had a number of different considerations when building these, and so certain compromises were made. Christian worked really hard, for example, to get Bavinck and Muller in Gold and Platinum respectively, and that came with some concessions in other areas.

These are for studying the scriptures alongside Reformed theology first-and-foremost, and some of the other material in the primary Logos base packages had to be removed to make room for other resources, unfortunately. We do appreciate your feedback, however, and will be taking notes as we continue to refine these for the future!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 11:03 AM

Hi Gabe,

Would it be possible for you to tell us how much each level would be if it was bought with dynamic pricing with the standard base package. In other words, "If I owned Starter, how much more would Reformed Starter cost?". "If I owned Platinum, how much more would Reformed Platinum cost?".

Standard Gold + Reformed Gold might be a much better fit for many people than Standard Platinum, for example, and might be at a similar price point.

It's impossible for us to work out dynamic pricing, but if you can do that quickly, it would help us as we give buying advice to others.

Mark

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 11:04 AM

Remember the spreadsheet that was put out around the release of L5 that compared base packages across time? I can't seem to access the original one on google docs, but I have a local copy saved, and I'm updating it to include the new reformed base packages :) Hope to have platinum done in the next hour or two... the rest will come in the next couple days.

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Randy W. Sims | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 11:15 AM

abondservant:
Remember the spreadsheet that was put out around the release of L5 that compared base packages across time? I can't seem to access the original one on google docs

Hi Ken,

It's still up and linked from the wiki. The link is: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhAl790TopkhdHNsTnRLY1A2RU9OY3pDNHdqTHVpQ3c#gid=20 

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Bruce Dunning | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 13 2014 11:15 AM

Mark Barnes:
Comparison charts are crucial though, as I'm sure you're aware. A customised comparison chart is obviously important (i.e. show me what's new to me), but also a comparison chart with the standard base packages, so you a new purchaser could see what they would miss out on.

This is critical for me too. It would take far to long to manually figure out what I own and what I don't own.

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