BUG: Can't change the default font in Verbum

Sleiman
Sleiman Member Posts: 672
edited November 20 in English Forum

I don't seem to find the option to change the default font in all resources in the program settings:

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    george
    gfsomsel

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  • Sleiman
    Sleiman Member Posts: 672

    Thanks for sharing that George. I checked my Logos 5 installation and it shows the option like your screenshot. I should have mentioned that this happens when I'm using Verbum and not Logos 5. Might this be the first difference between the two installations? Not cool.

     Even the 'set default resources font' command is not available in my Verbum: 

    What gives?

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭

    Sleiman said:

    Thanks for sharing that George. I checked my Logos 5 installation and it shows the option like your screenshot. I should have mentioned that this happens when I'm using Verbum and not Logos 5. Might this be the first difference between the two installations? Not cool.

     Even the 'set default resources font' command is not available in my Verbum: 

    What gives?

    I have no idea why that is the case (nor did I know that prior to your mention) since while have some Verbum resources, I don't have Verbum  itself.  Perhaps you could run your Verbum resources in L5?

    george
    gfsomsel

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't the UI be changed back and forth between Logos and Verbum by issuing the command set verbum to {yes|no}? What happens if you try setting it to no. Does the ability to change your default font come back? Can you change it to what you want and then set your UI back to verbum? Does the default font change stay in effect?

    Of course if all of the above works, it would only be a workaround. It sounds to me like a bug/oversight that the default font setting can't be changed in Verbum.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,972

    Can't the UI be changed back and forth between Logos and Verbum by issuing the command set verbum to {yes|no}? What happens if you try setting it to no.

    I understand Sleiman that he uses the Verbum installer version, not the classic L5 in "Verbum mode". Otherweise I can at least assure that the L5 latest beta does show the setting for default font in Verbum mode on my machine.  

    EDIT: picture

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NB.Mick said:

    I understand Sleiman that he uses the Verbum installer version, not the classic L5 in "Verbum mode".

    Ah, shows my ignorance. I didn't even know that the Verbum installer version was different from classic L5 in "Verbum mode".

  • Sleiman
    Sleiman Member Posts: 672

    NB.Mick said:

    I understand Sleiman that he uses the Verbum installer version, not the classic L5 in "Verbum mode".

    Correct. I have 2 installation on 2 separate PCs. On one I have L5, on the other Verbum. It's only with the Verbum installation that this oddity occurs.

    Perhaps you could run your Verbum resources in L5?

    Yeah, but I hate to have to re-install L5 and re-index. I just hope this gets fixed so I don't have to do that. I can live with the current font until then, of course. But one starts to wonder, what other things might be different or less functional?!
  • Sleiman
    Sleiman Member Posts: 672

    I didn't even know that the Verbum installer version was different from classic L5 in "Verbum mode".

    Neither did I until now! But I know what you mean. Someone from Logos did mention (can't remember when) that the two programs will start to diverge from one another gradually; and I think that that would be later rather than sooner (for example at the next version announcement or something).

    This surely is an oversight, but I wonder what caused it to happen. I thought that the two programs should share the same code with respect to the engine/settings/etc... ? I don't know much but this is not cool. Having to deal with bugs on two fronts must be costly to Logos and unnecessary in my opinion.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sleiman said:

    . I thought that the two programs should share the same code with respect to the engine/settings/etc... ? I don't know much but this is not cool. Having to deal with bugs on two fronts must be costly to Logos and unnecessary in my opinion.

    Yes, definitely not cool. It reminds me of all the non-parity issues between the Mac version and the Windows version before they began sharing more of the code base together. I hope we're not headed in that direction.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,972

    Sleiman said:

    I didn't even know that the Verbum installer version was different from classic L5 in "Verbum mode".

    Neither did I until now! But I know what you mean. Someone from Logos did mention (can't remember when) that the two programs will start to diverge from one another gradually; and I think that that would be later rather than sooner (for example at the next version announcement or something).

    This surely is an oversight, but I wonder what caused it to happen. I thought that the two programs should share the same code with respect to the engine/settings/etc... ? I don't know much but this is not cool. Having to deal with bugs on two fronts must be costly to Logos and unnecessary in my opinion.

    You are right, and it's even worse since the Verbum installer version doesn't go through Beta (it's not supposed to: taking part in the Beta as a Verbum mode user requires manual download every time). I was convinced that currently the two versions 

    Sleiman said:

    share the same code

    period. You seem to have proved otherwise, and if so, that's bad.

    It still may be some IFDEF's in the same codebase - maybe someone wanted to turn on the Canon selector for hard-core Verbumists that they exposed some time ago and just turned the wrong switch. However, I tend to think that a real fork would require betas for Verbum and a really compelling case (I'm still not convinced). As long as there is a Verbum mode on Logos, the setting of "Set to Verbum" should be used as the differentiator, not some installer-specifics

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    I recommend changing the heading to something with 'BUG:' while you still have the time.

    I'm also wondering: shouldn't the setting sync from one installation to the other?

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Sleiman
    Sleiman Member Posts: 672

    fgh said:

    I recommend changing the heading to something with 'BUG:' while you still have the time.

    Just did.

    fgh said:

    I'm also wondering: shouldn't the setting sync from one installation to the other?

    It does, thanks for the reminder. I have to change settings on L5, quit, then restart Verbum after a few seconds, but it works.
  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Sleiman said:

    I have to change settings on L5, quit, then restart Verbum after a few seconds

    That shouldn't be necessary. Clicking the sync arrows, first on L5, then on Verbum, should be enough. Or simply wait a few minutes and the sync should happen automatically.

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Sleiman said:

    I don't seem to find the option to change the default font in all resources in the program settings:

    Using Verbum 5.2a SR-6 (5.2.1.0155) and Logos 5.2b Beta 2 (5.2.2.0228) on Windows 7, can replicate Verbum having one less program setting:

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Sleiman
    Sleiman Member Posts: 672

    " rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) said:

    can replicate Verbum having one less program setting

    Thanks for checking and verifying KS4J
  • Angela Murashov
    Angela Murashov Member Posts: 1,532

    Sleiman said:

    I don't seem to find the option to change the default font in all resources in the program settings:

    There is an active case for this issue (only an issue in Verbum). I will include a link to this post to the case so that we will update you once this issue is fixed. [:)] 

  • Angela Murashov
    Angela Murashov Member Posts: 1,532

    Sleiman said:

    I don't seem to find the option to change the default font in all resources in the program settings:

    There is an active case for this issue (only an issue in Verbum). I will include a link to this post to the case so that we will update you once this issue is fixed. Smile 

    This should be fixed in 5.2b beta 3. [:)]

  • Don Awalt
    Don Awalt Member Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭
  • Sleiman
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