How to do Psalms Title in PB-Bible

I'm working on a Bible that uses the LEB Versemap. Now the psalms often times have a title line that is handled differently in different translations. The one I'm working on has the title separate and V1 starts after the title (see screenshot below).

So I'm wondering how this needs to be set up. Right now it looks like this. Would this work? Or is there a way to mark it as 'title'?

[[@BibleLEB:Ps 3]]{{~ Ps 3 }}

{{field-on:bible}}A psalm of David, at his fleeing from the presence of Absalom, his son.{{field-off:bible}}
[[@BibleLEB:Ps 3:1]]1 {{field-on:bible}}Yahweh, how many are my enemies; many are rising against me.{{field-off:bible}}

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David Paul

This is a major flaw of most English Bibles. This "introduction" should be verse 1 in all cases. Because it is handled (i.e. dismissed) as a introduction, these lines are not included as part of most Logos searches. That stinks because some of the info is very important in understanding what the Psalm is about. I wish Logos would devise a way of including this material as PART OF THE PSALM...since that's exactly what it is.

Ha! Just noticed this is in the Files forum, so I doubt anyone from Logos will see it.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

Or is there a way to mark it as 'title'?

I'm not at a computer where I can check this, but I think "[[@BibleLEB:Ps 3:title]]" should work. (Logos calls the BHS v1 the "title" verse in most English versemaps.)

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

Because it is handled (i.e. dismissed) as a introduction, these lines are not included as part of most Logos searches.

The "title" verse should be included in all Bible searches in Logos. Can you provide steps to reproduce a search where it's not included?

I wish Logos would devise a way of including this material as PART OF THE PSALM...since that's exactly what it is.

It should be included as the "title" verse in all English Bibles in Logos.

Ha! Just noticed this is in the Files forum, so I doubt anyone from Logos will see it.

True, only people from Faithlife have seen it. [:P]

MJ. Smith

This is a major flaw of most English Bibles. This "introduction" should be verse 1 in all cases. Because it is handled (i.e. dismissed) as a introduction, these lines are not included as part of most Logos searches. That stinks because some of the info is very important in understanding what the Psalm is about. I wish Logos would devise a way of including this material as PART OF THE PSALM...since that's exactly what it is.

Ha! Just noticed this is in the Files forum, so I doubt anyone from Logos will see it.

Could you give an example? I find that it is treated as part of the Psalm in most of the translations I use.

David Paul

Okay, I guess I'm responding to how it's treated in L3. I can see that it is searchable in L5...but...

Taking this example, say I want to do a search on "Saul".

How do I get this report in L5? In L3 it's a right click and a left click (Englishman's Concordance).

I understand L5 doesn't do an Englishman's Concordance search, but I want the report above with this layout. How do I get this?

MJ. Smith

Okay ... I see no relationship between the Search question and the question of Psalm titles .... and who said you can't do an Englishman's Concordance? I think one of the oldies but goodies tip of the day entries gave instructions recently (Rosie as OP?)... and me answering a question using Strongs number? I leave that to others. But I suspect this is what you want.

Schumitinu

Or is there a way to mark it as 'title'?

I'm not at a computer where I can check this, but I think "[[@BibleLEB:Ps 3:title]]" should work. (Logos calls the BHS v1 the "title" verse in most English versemaps.)

Ok, back to my initial question...

Thanks Bradley for the tip. Unfortunately it did not work. The milestone now shows in the Bible text and in the log file was the following message:
[Warning] Unrecognized milestone BibleLEB:Ps 3:title

Any other suggestions?

Schumitinu

It looks like that :title is not part of the LEB versemap (https://wiki.logos.com/Bible_Verse_Maps#Psalm). So I tried to take out all the LEB tags. It worked in that most of the psalms titles are recognized now and work as such. But there is now a whole range of other verses that are not recognized. Here is my log file

https://community.logos.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/66/5282.PBB_5F00_2015_2D00_08_2D00_07T01_5F00_31_5F00_24Z.log:550:0

Any suggestions?

Schumitinu

bump

NB.Mick

To me it looks like the LEB versemap for Psalms works just like BHS and Luther (i.e. what other bibles call 'title' is verse 1). EDIT: however, looking into the LEB it seems the entry in the wiki is wrong and LEB might belong into a different column.

Your link doesn't work for me right now, and I'm not sure what you meant by "taking out" the LEB reference.

The point is that PB bibles can have only one versemap, so you need to be careful which you choose - Logos has created a unique versemap for nearly every bible, the chaos is so big.

In fact, if your bible follows the LEB versemap, you need to call the LEB references in the milestones. Have you tried verse 0?

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

Or is there a way to mark it as 'title'?

I'm not at a computer where I can check this, but I think "[[@BibleLEB:Ps 3:title]]" should work. (Logos calls the BHS v1 the "title" verse in most English versemaps.)

I was wrong. The original LEB versemap did not support "title" verses in Psalms. When we fixed this, we kept the original versemap around (for backwards compatibility) and called the new one (which the current LEB uses) "BibleLEB2".

Thus "[[@BibleLEB2:Ps 3:title]]" should work in your PB. It might not fix all your other problems, though; LEB2 doesn't have a "Gen 32:33" verse, or "Ex 7:26-29", etc.

Where did you originally get your verse numbers?

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

I plugged the following references from your error log into the system, and I found no built-in Bible data type that can accept them all:

Ge 32:33, Ex 7:29, Le 5:26, Dt 28:69, Ps 3:title, 1Sa 21:16, 1Ch 5:41, Ps 150:title

NJB was the closest, but it doesn't support titles on Pss 146, 148-150.

Schumitinu

Thanks Bradley for looking into this.

I used Michael Schierlm's Bible Multi Converter - Logos Edition (https://github.com/schierlm/BibleMultiConverter). It has a Logos versification detector which suggests which versemap goes best with the Bible you want to convert. It suggested LEB. However, at that time the initial verses on psalms where all messed up. Some titles were a separate verse, some went together with what commonly is verse one etc. So I tried to clean it up. And since the print version of that Bible has the titles separate, not part of verse one, I looked into how this can be done. And that's were things got messed up. I'll try your suggestions. I already noticed that Ps 146, 148-150 generally are not considered as having a title.

Thanks again