Finding cases of the genitive absolute in the Septuagint

Theo van der Louw
Theo van der Louw Member Posts: 3 ✭✭
edited March 6 in English Forum

Dear all,

Can anyone help me with the following?

On the Logos forum, there has been a thread about the genitive absolute in the NT. This was mainly based on Cascadia.

However, I want to create a list of cases of the genitive absolute in the Septuagint. According to previous research, there should be some 200 cases (no one bothered to list them). With Morph and Syntax searches I wasn't able to find even one case. The specifics of the gen.abs. are as follows:

1) a noun or pronoun in the genitive case (rarely absent);

2) a genitive anarthrous participle (always), i.e. a participle without a preceding article

3) the entire construction at the front of a sentence (usually).

Note: the order between (1) and (2) may vary. Sometimes one or two words (particles) may come in between (1) and (2).

I'm looking forward to your reactions. Thanks in advance!

Theo van der Louw.

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,116

    Provided you have Logos Now you can do a Bible Search with {Section <GramCon GenAbs>}, but it doesn't work for the LXX!

    Syntax Search would be best but it is not available for the LXX and a text Search for anarthrous parts-of-speech is not accurate e.g lemma:θεός ANDNOT lemma:ὁ eliminates valid results as the article could belong to another word. Also, there is no way to limit the placement of the construction.

    You can experiment with (@V??P??G WITHIN  1-2 WORD  @NG, R??G) but you have to manually inspect the results for articles before the participle (the first term).

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Theo van der Louw
    Theo van der Louw Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Thanks!! I'm trying it. At first sight it yields 200+ hits but they are easily sorted out. What I still don't get is that my searches yielded no results at all...

    Blessings,

    Theo.

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,116

    What I still don't get is that my searches yielded no results at all...

    Your original searches? What were they?

    We can refine the search for the anarthrous condition as follows:

    (@V??P??G WITHIN  1-2 WORD  @NG, R??G) ANDNOT (lemma:ὁ BEFORE 1 WORD  @V??P??G)

    In Logos LXX that reduces the number of verses from 955 to 636, but it still eliminates a few potentially valid results

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,116
  • David McClister
    David McClister Member Posts: 122 ✭✭

    I know this is an old thread, but the search section:grammaticalConstructions:"Genitive Absolute" still does not find the genitive absolute in Luke 2.2. Has anyone played around with this to get it more accurate?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,810

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • David McClister
    David McClister Member Posts: 122 ✭✭

    I haven't. I don't know the procedure for doing that. 😊