Linux version of Logos Bible Software
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If you are not in the Telegram/Matrix group, we announced there that we have made some recent progress on getting Logos 30+ working. More work still needs to be done, but the good Lord has provided us the beginning of what we need. Keep praying that the doors we need will be opened.
Further, if you need in app updates, installing an earlier version around Logos 25 allows us to update in app.Thank you all for your support and prayers.
Psalm 127:1–2: Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Unless the Lord watches over the city, the watchman stays awake in vain. It is in vain that you rise up early and go late to rest, eating the bread of anxious toil; for he gives to his beloved sleep.0 -
Thanks for the info. I think at this point I just want to see if I can transition my personal computer use over to Linux (i.e., use certain apps or their equivalents), not necessarily become an admin.[:D]
If the experiment with the laptop works, then I'll try my desktop. The laptop will then go to my son (if I can lock it down) so he can start playing around on a computer with some basic coding and design programs.
If I understand what you're doing, you're trying to get Logos to run natively in Linux, not using something like Wine (or that other thing, Bottles). Does Logos run acceptably in something like that?
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I cannot get Logos to run natively. Only FaithLife can do that.
I'm not expecting you to become a sys admin.
Just giving an example of how to begin. Sometimes Linux requires manual intervention, and knowing a few commands and how they work can help you understand how to do those things. I mentioned ARM64. This is a type of CPU architecture commonly found in phones and tablets. Logos is developed for x86_64 (another architecture, commonly found in workstations and laptops). You can't run programs compiled for one architecture on another by default without having an interpreter between the two. Linux has a few interpreters for that purpose, and I'm hoping to integrate it into the installer so people can run Logos on their AARCH64 (or ARM64) computers, too.
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FYI - The WINE application in Linux is actually a mock Windows C drive. This allows Windows programs to run as if they were on a Windows system. It works very well for many things, but not always. If you're accustomed to troubleshooting issues in Windows like finding missing dll files etc., then you can do this in Linux too..
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While there are many good options for older machines among Linux distros, Logos itself can be heavy. Maybe that depends on the size of one's library -- others here may know for sure. In my case, my machine with an Intel Core i7 and 8GB of ram would get very hot when Logos was first trying to index my library. I doubled my ram, and added an SSD, and that solved my problem. You already have the SSD, so that should help matters.ETMoore said:I thought I would dip my toes into Linux by re-purposing an old Windows 7 Thinkpad. It has a 64-bit Intel Core i3 with 8GB of RAM, Integrated Graphics, and 500GB SSD, so should still be a viable machine with Linux.
Any suggestions on which Linux distro I should investigate given 1) complete newb, and 2) I want to get Logos up and running. Logos would be the only software and/or functionality that I need that I can't easily replace on a Linux system.
I hope this goes well for you. You'll find a lot of help here, or on the related Matrix channel.
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Running Ubuntu Budgie 24.04 LTS, pretty fresh install. Followed instructions for LogosLinuxInstaller here https://github.com/FaithLife-Community/LogosLinuxInstaller?tab=readme-ov-file#debian-and-ubuntu and here https://github.com/FaithLife-Community/LogosLinuxInstaller/wiki/Install-Guide#gui.
When running the installer via GUI I can proceed until it gets stuck "Finding available wine AppImages." Any idea how to help it complete that process?Thanks!
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Update: installed from CLI and it seems to have overcome the failure of the GUI. Downloading library now.
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Library downloaded, program opens and displays left menu area, then crashes. Tried restarting computer, same results. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Should I try to diagnose this install, or try a different installer (ferion11 vs. Faithlife-Community)?
Many thanks in advance.
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it has updated to the latest version 34.1 May which wont run on Linux. If you diagnose it you will find it is missing alot of dll files.Purist said:Library downloaded, program opens and displays left menu area, then crashes. Tried restarting computer, same results. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Should I try to diagnose this install, or try a different installer (ferion11 vs. Faithlife-Community)?
Many thanks in advance.
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An installer update will support it soon...
See progress here: https://github.com/FaithLife-Community/LogosLinuxInstaller/pull/118
I think it works as of yesterday. Few people have tested it... We can't say at this stage how stable etc.
With the install you already have, you can fix it up, you will need wine 9.10 devel or 9.12 devel. And you will need to manually install icu dlls linked below.
https://github.com/FaithLife-Community/icu/releases/tag/75.1
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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I can confirm the icu.dll files fix many issues. It installs without complaint and at first use works, I'll test it on a reboot tonight to see if it continues to work. If you don't mind I will make a CrossTie for CrossOver so it becomes a simple 1 step install for CrossOver users.
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The Python program's code is opensource and distributed under the MIT and the ICU data files are opensource. You are free to do such things.
I'm not sure how CrossTies in CrossOver work, but feel free to do what helps!
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Thanks Taylor.
A CrossTie is like a recipe that assists when installing programs. The CrossTie can include items the program requires to install and run or at least indicates where to get them from.
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Unfortunately this did not work for me. I installed 9.12 devel, copy-pasted the all the dlls cited (folder merge), and rebooted. Program still does not stay open more than a few seconds.
I really just want a stable Logos on Linux - what is the recommended installer these days?
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Most active development on our end is for the Python program. The Python program is currently in alpha, but at this point it is probably the most up-to-date. The developer of the Snap is putting his efforts into the Python program. I was eventually the main dev for the bash script but have put all my attention into the Python after I drafted the initial Python code. John and Tom, our other two developers, are more focused on the Wine/upstream side of things and are trying to make headway on some of our more notorious bugs. That being said, there are various issues we are still encountering and bugs we are squashing. We are getting near to our beta release, but there are various features we are hoping to land before that which should make it a pretty feature-full and stable beta. The GitHub repo maintains the ongoing issue tracker, and the code has various TODOs, FIXMEs, and ERRORs that need to be resolved in due time.
There are more features the developers, of which I am one, desire to program and release, but for that we need more time. We do all of this as volunteers. We are always glad to receive new volunteers to assist us in the work! The Lord has answered our prayers by bringing us a fourth.
All that being said, the Python program shouldn't need you to build Python 3.12; we bundle Python into the binary itself. Just download the binary from the GitHub releases, make it executable, and it should be ready to run.
There is a needed fix for Ubuntu at present which is in a PR we are working to merge quickly—if you are on Ubuntu, you will need to install your dependencies manually.
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For stability, I use the web app at present. It is not my favorite, but it at least lets me get my work done.
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How can I remove my installation and reinstall using the latest beta? When i download the latest installer it doesn't give me the option to install because it's already installed. Thanks.
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How can I remove my installation and reinstall using the latest beta? When i download the latest installer it doesn't give me the option to install because it's already installed. Thanks.
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For whatever reason my Logos installation is now running with no issues.
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Logos is working beautifully except for 1 issue that I am trying to work through. I took a video of it which should upload to YouTube in the next 10 or so minutes. https://youtu.be/vLw7YNptOXw Please feel free to watch and if you have any suggestions as to what the graphical glitch is caused by either post here or post in the video comments.
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How did you install Logos on your machine?
The issue is because of your compositor, which suggests that either something in the Wine install or something in your local machine's set-up is not properly configured.
I suppose it is worth asking, too, what is your GPU?
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Through CrossOver using the Logos MSI file after the icu.dll patch was released.Taylor said:How did you install Logos on your machine?
The system is Debian 12 (Bookworm) MATE. It's a simple generic X11>MATE>Marco Desktop system.Taylor said:The issue is because of your compositor, which suggests that either something in the Wine install or something in your local machine's set-up is not properly configured.
michael@Michael-CF31-Linux:~Taylor said:I suppose it is worth asking, too, what is your GPU?
[code]$ inxi -G
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1024x768~60Hz
API: OpenGL v: 4.2 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IVB
GT2)
michael@Michael-CF31-Linux:~
$[/code]I remember years ago i915 had a terrible bug in Ubuntu 7.10 or 8.04 but I can't remember the fix for it.
CrossOver system information
[code]Product:
CrossOver
Version:
2420240418
Install location:
/opt/cxoffice
Bitness:
64-bit
Desktop session:
lightdm-xsession
Window manager:
Metacity (Marco)
Locale:
Locale: en_AU.UTF-8
System Information:
PRETTY_NAME: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
NAME: Debian GNU/Linux
VERSION_ID: 12
VERSION: 12 (bookworm)
VERSION_CODENAME: bookworm
ID: debian
HOME_URL: https://www.debian.org/
SUPPORT_URL: https://www.debian.org/support
BUG_REPORT_URL: https://bugs.debian.org/
Warnings:
Properties:
vulkan.present.amd64: yes
display.depth: 24
display.dpi: 96.0
opengl.vendor: Intel
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opengl.renderer: Mesa Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2)
opengl.glsl_version: 4.20
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I haven't used CrossOver. Can you use winetricks with it? What is the renderer set to?
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I've never used Winetricks, didn't even know it existed actually. Just installed it. Now going to have to learn how to use it.
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Well for the 1st time since about 2012 I broke my Linus install. It'll be fine. What I am going to do is rather than use MATE I'm going to install Gnome Flashback (Gnome 2 looking version of Gnome 3 or 4 whatever gnome is up to now) because it uses Wayland. I have no experience with Wayland but if it works and Gnome Flashback is as usable as MATE is without using alot of resources then I'll stick to that on my main laptop and work through the X11 issue on a spare machine or SSD. Anything rather than staying on Windows, which I am in right now, or going to Mac.
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Let us know if we can assist with anything. We tend to be more responsive on Telegram and Matrix.
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Thanks for your offer Taylor, response times here are fine.
I got Linux up and running again. I have been checking the compositing. With it on the thick black border flickers, with it off the border is there but no flickering. Going to do some research in WINE and CrossOver and see what I can find out.
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It will be to do with the selected renderer in wine. You can do vulcan, opengl or direct draw. The latter being the most reliable. Depending on your graphics drivers you might get a good result with the others, which is desirable because you get graphics acceleration.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Hi JohnJohn Goodman said:It will be to do with the selected renderer in wine. You can do vulcan, opengl or direct draw. The latter being the most reliable. Depending on your graphics drivers you might get a good result with the others, which is desirable because you get graphics acceleration.
Thanks for the guidance. I've just edited the registry, as per WINE and CrossOver instructions (they are the same instructions). vulcan and vulkan stops Logos from going past the splash screen, opengl still has the glitch and so does direct draw. Do you, or anyone else, have a screenshot of your registry value so I can make sure I've got it right?
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I'm using Linux and a few years ago I managed to get Logos 8 running using Lutris/Wine. Somehow I managed to get the settings to where it worked, only crashing once in a while. Not anymore. Now Logos 8 starts up just fine, but crashes almost immediately after the home screen shows. I will be upgrading/reinstalling my OS either today or tomorrow and will be using the latest version of Ubuntu Linux. If anyone already has all the Lutris/Wine settings figured out I'd love to get them from you. That would save a lot of trial and error. Thanks!
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This is going to make my new installation so much easier! Thanks!
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There was a resource update a while ago that broke certain backward compatibility on our end. We had to push our Logos on Linux efforts to run versions after that update but before Logos 30. We are hoping to pass a major update for Logos 30+ support soon, but we are ironing out some last bugs.
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So, should I install Logos 29 just to be safe?
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Is the python installer working for other people? I'm trying it on arch, and it just gets stuck installing dependencies after entering the sudo password.
```2024-08-11T19:28:41 Progress: 35%
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Ensuring installation config is set…
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Progress: 39%
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Ensuring installation directories…
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Progress: 43%
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Ensuring system dependencies are met…```
None of the percentages progress. Is this normal? Will it eventually complete?
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Is the python installer working for other people? I'm trying it on arch, and it just gets stuck installing dependencies after entering the sudo password.
```2024-08-11T19:28:41 Progress: 35%
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Ensuring installation config is set…
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Progress: 39%
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Ensuring installation directories…
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Progress: 43%
2024-08-11T19:28:41 Ensuring system dependencies are met…```
None of the percentages progress. Is this normal? Will it eventually complete?
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Really looking forward to this—thanks for all the work on it.
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Really looking forward to this—thanks for all the work on it.
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Thank you for all the work on this project. I would love to move to Linux but I am holding out because Logos isn't fully functional yet. You are helping so many of us get our privacy back.
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Ubuntu 24 - installed wine -- installed this via snap.
Was able to login and download the libraries.Crashes after you try to run this.
I've been reading through this thread and don't see the consensus - am I missing something to get this running?
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After recently installing Linux Mint and slowly transitioning things from Windows, major apps like Logos, Office, and others I use may just have to run on a licensed Windows 10 VM within my Linux instance, along with the other major apps for the time being. I know some will say use Office Libre, but I just don't think it's there yet. Maybe for simple things
I look forward to the day where we get a native Linux version of Logos.
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Welcome to the Logos Forums.
I am working on a personal book for Logos using LibreOffice as we speak. I know Microsoft Word pretty well, so trying to find the way to do equivalent things in LibreOffice has been a challenge.
I dual boot Windows/Ubuntu. I have Logos installed on each. I am amazed at how well Logos runs on Linux even with the bugs and incompatibilities that arise from time to time. Based on public statements made in the past, I don't think a native Linux version -- especially with official support -- is realistic. Getting the Wine implementation stabilized is the best we can hope for -- for now. We have some amazing volunteers working as diligently as they can on it.
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Like Bill Anderson, I'm not holding my breath for a native Linux version of Logos... I'd be happy if one was released, but I'm content with what we've got (big thanks to those who have gotten us to where we are!).
As for Libre Office / MS Word. I switched to 'open' office software c. 2003, having grown quite tired of paying for updated releases from MS. I haven't looked back. I wrote a linguistic thesis using LO back in 2008—lots of numbered examples with automatically updating 'reference' numbers in the text, charts, tables, captions, hyperlinked index, etc. There wasn't anything I wanted to do back then that I couldn't, and it has only matured since. There's definitely a different approach from Word to some things—some learning required, as expected—but I've found it fully capable. That's my experience; your use-case may well be different and 'unsupported'. Having said that, the support community has been fantastic and the developers responsive to suggestions and 'fixes'.
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Thank you Bill and Paul!
Appreciate all the info. I am going to start exploring the Wine/Bottles a go with Logos 10 and provide feedback. Worst case scenario:
A) Use my existing Windows 10 pro license inside a VM on the Linux Mint side and run Logos on it along with Office - Office use is mostly for family members since they ride on my subscription, so I can't completely remove it, at least not yet.
Continue dual booting Windows/MintI will give Open Office a run; haven't explored that option. For me it's mostly Word and Excel, and the occasional PowerPoint. I don't use Outlook (Proton Mail user), I don't use OneNote (Standard Notes user).
Highly recommend both of those services for more privacy and security (no affiliation)
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Just one caveat re. "I will give Open Office a run": Open Office and Libre Office are not the same. See, for example, https://itsfoss.com/libreoffice-vs-openoffice/, for more info. UI, features (functions, import / export options, advanced formatting), and file formats are biggies. Regarding the latter: OO can open but not save MS files; LO can both open and save them.
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In general, due to the locust of development, LibreOffice has superseded OpenOffice.
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I just wanted to let you know I tried using the installer, and while it did install Logos in a bottle, it wouldn't open it. So I was looking at having to do what you are talking about.
But I saw the note about running it through Steam's proton layers. I was able to add it to my steam library and set its properties to be run with proton 9.03.
I am getting some black boxes generating around popups in Logos, but its running fine otherwise.I'm running Garuda Linux with KDE 6.2.1 using Kwin(Wayland)
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Kelly Smith said:
But I saw the note about running it through Steam's proton layers. I was able to add it to my steam library and set its properties to be run with proton 9.03.
I am getting some black boxes generating around popups in Logos, but its running fine otherwise.I fought the black boxes for a while, although I was not using proton. I was running Logos in the Linux environment on a Chromebook (Debian container) and the fix for me was to open the Chrome browser, type chrome//flags in the search box and search for Crostini GPU support, and change the value from Default to Disabled. This fix is probably a Chromebook-specific fix: I don't know if it will apply in your case.
Regarding the proton setup, could you write up the steps to run Logos using proton? I have never been able to figure it out.
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Kelly,
The issue is the renderer. Are you using the Python installer?
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Bill Anderson said:
Regarding the proton setup, could you write up the steps to run Logos using proton? I have never been able to figure it out.
Sure thing!
1. locate the Logos.exe file mine was located here~/LogosBible10/data/wine64_bottle/drive_c/users/[USER_NAME]/AppData/Local/Logos/
2. Open Steam and in the bottom left there is a button that says "Add a Game" click the plus button there
3. Click "Add a Non-Steam game..."
4. On the popup window, click "Browse" on the bottom left
5. Navigate to the folder in step 1 containing Logos.exe
6. Select Logos.exe and click "Open"
7. Make sure compatibility settings are enabled on Steam.
a. To enable, click "Steam" on the top left menu
b. Click "Settings"
c. Select Compatibility from the List
d. Enable Steamplay for Supported Titles & For all other Titles (I don't remember if this will require restarting steam or not)
e. Run other Titles with: Proton 9.03 (This will require restarting Steam)
8. At the Steam Library page, right click on "Logos.exe" and select properties
9. Select Compatibility from List and check "Force use of a specific..." (You can use this to swap which Proton version you are using if one doesn't work for ya)
10. Close the pop-up and return to Steam Library and click Logos.exe and hit "Play" on the main screen.
It did force me to redownload libraries again, so when you do the first install with the python installer I would suggest selecting minimum so it doesn't take up as much room. Thanks for the tip about the GPU support. I'm on a Lenovo Legion Laptop, but I will mess with some of the settings in steam to see if I can get rid of the boxes, and if I can I will update these instructions
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I did use the python installer, and while it was able to run the program twice after it was installed, I haven't been able to get it running again outside of Steam.
I will try messing with some of the command options in Steam and see if I can remove them.
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