Other theological dictionaries in searches?

Dictionaries like the new OT dictionaries and the one of Jesus and Gospels doesn't seem to show up with the other "normal" dictionaries. Just wondering how to incorporate them in searches (up top)?

On the same note, those dictionaries don't seem to have entries or heading as search fields, how do you access the information across them easily and efficiently?

Thanks in advance,

Edwin

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Mark Smith

Just wondering how to incorporate them in searches (up top)?

Unfortunately you can't. Logos has chosen which dictionaries appear and has set them up them to allow this.

those dictionaries don't seem to have entries or heading as search fields

This seems correct and would reflect the sad state of heading searching in Logos. Neither of these works (nor the New Testament ones by IVP) are searchable by heading.

Rosie Perera

On the same note, those dictionaries don't seem to have entries or heading as search fields, how do you access the information across them easily and efficiently?

As Mark has explained, at present they are not indexed by heading, so the best you can do for now is have a vague idea of which volume you want to look something up in, open it and then open its Table of Contents pane and navigate directly to the heading (if that topic exists in the dictionary) that way:

It's kind of no better than looking it up in the print-based resource (except that you can copy/paste from there, and there are a few hyperlinks in the text). I hope Logos makes these dictionaries more easily searchable; that's supposed to be one of the main points of having them in electronic format!

Mark Barnes

The best way to search all the dictionaries for an entry, is to find the entry for one dictionary, then click the plus tab. You'll get a windows with two columns. The smaller, right-hand column will contain all the other dictionaries that share that entry. In Logos 4.0b, due soon, you'll also be able to use parallel resource associations to achieve the same effect.

If you're interested in why things are the way they are, this old thread, and particularly this post from Logos employee Sean Boisen explain why.

Edwin Kwok

Mark, what pane is that? I have yet to see a plus sign like that.

Edwin

Kevin Becker

Mark, what pane is that? I have yet to see a plus sign like that.

Edwin

Edwin Kwok

Mark, what pane is that? I have yet to see a plus sign like that.

Edwin

Aaaaah! Thank you all for the replies and help. This is very useful!

Edwin

Sean Boisen

If you're interested in why things are the way they are, this old thread, and particularly this post from Logos employee Sean Boisen explain why.

Just to sprinkle in a bit of hope:

We hope to roll out heading-specific search in the near future. We know how to do it technically: the major issue at this point is that changing books and journals to support it will require a large download-and-reindex cycle, and we know people don't always like those [:S] But it's coming: it's just a matter of how soon.
We have several additional dictionaries nearing readiness for inclusion in the Topics/Look it Up section, and we're staffing up to get the rest of the important ones completed this year.

Todd Phillips

Just to sprinkle in a bit of hope:

We hope to roll out heading-specific search in the near future. We know how to do it technically: the major issue at this point is that changing books and journals to support it will require a large download-and-reindex cycle, and we know people don't always like those But it's coming: it's just a matter of how soon.

We have several additional dictionaries nearing readiness for inclusion in the Topics/Look it Up section, and we're staffing up to get the rest of the important ones completed this year.

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to it.

Mark Barnes

Sean,

That's great news. I have my update channel set to beta in anticipation!

Mark

Ron Barry

I would have thought the IVP Dictionaries which were just released would have been searchable. Are these slated for editing to allow inclusion in topical searches?

Louis St. Hilaire

As Mark has explained, at present they are not indexed by heading, so the best you can do for now is have a vague idea of which volume you want to look something up in, open it and then open its Table of Contents pane and navigate directly to the heading (if that topic exists in the dictionary) that way:

While we haven't yet implemented the field searching on headings that Sean speaks of, these dictionaries are indexed by headword, so you can find articles and navigate using the active index box: