Other theological dictionaries in searches?
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Mike:Mike Binks said:
... On the above mention thread I expressed concern that the advertising for the Zondervan Collection contains the line,
'Titles integrate into custom search reports, Passage Guides, Exegetical Guides, and the other advanced features of Logos Bible Software.'
No mention was made of the fact that some of the tagging was incomplete or even waiting to be started ....
I believe these claims about integration of the Zondervan collection are fair:- Custom search reports: the full text is completely searchable (an enormous advantage over any print version)
- The Passage Guide finds content from commentaries that are part of the Zondervan Collection. In addition, if (for example) you make a collection of the 5 Zondervan Encyclopedia volumes and add this as a Collection to your Passage Guide report, you can find all the articles that mention a given passage
- The Exegetical Guide will find those commentaries that are part of the Zondervan Collection
The Zondervan Encyclopedia is not yet integrated into the Logos Controlled Vocabulary, but it certainly supports many other features of the software.
All that said, we certainly want all the resources in the Zondervan Collection to have as much functionality as possible, and we're working on adding more.
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Sean Boisen said:
The Zondervan Encyclopedia is not yet integrated into the Logos Controlled Vocabulary, but it certainly supports many other features of the software.
All that said, we certainly want all the resources in the Zondervan Collection to have as much functionality as possible, and we're working on adding more.
It's true, the Zondervan Encyclopedia does already offer a lot of functionality. And I suppose there are benefits to releasing when you did instead of waiting until it was fully integrated into LCV. But the problem I see happening is you guys are getting ahead of yourselves with all the new pre-pubs you are bringing out. You're not able to keep up with making them fully functional with all that Logos is designed to do (LCV in particular). So the backlog of work you need to do to get all the functionality up and running keeps increasing, and user frustration mounts. I have no idea what your actual internal backlog is as far as tagging of resources is concerned, but the perception from out here is that there's stuff you've been promising for a long time that hasn't been getting done, while new resources keep getting announced. I would prefer to have fewer resources with more complete functionality than more resources with limited functionality, given that the number of great resources you've got available already is astounding!
Logos is still an incredibly powerful system, and I offer my most sincere thanks and kudos to you all for doing it. Keep up the good work.
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Rosie Perera said:
Please try to bump up the priority/urgency of this LCV work. It's one of the most common disappointments with Logos we see on the forums. People remembering the old L3 topic browser and wanting to be able to do something like that in L4, people wanting a quick way to search for headwords in dictionaries and encyclopedias, etc. I understand that it's a huge amount of work, but it is one of the core features of Logos, so it needs to be done soon.
Rosie, M.J.:
The best news I can offer on this front is that I've been actively working to train my replacement [:)] so I hope our progress will be accelerating. We've got several more dictionaries nearing release, and I expect the pace will increase substantially, but it will still take a while to work through the many other resources we want to integrate. But I definitely agree that more LCV integration should be a high priority.
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Sean Boisen said:
The best news I can offer on this front is that I've been actively working to train my replacement
so I hope our progress will be accelerating. Well - the best news would be that your replacement (a) requires no sleep (b) is able to type of 5 keyboards simultaneously (c) has never made an error ... [:D]
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Todd Phillips said:
Unlike others, this is my biggest disappointment with Logos4. In addition to the dictionaries yet to be tagged, the LCV excludes historical terms, theological terms, personal names, and other technical terms, which means that my historical, theological, and biographical dictionaries are excluded by default from topic searches (not to mention, my Columbia Encyclopedia and English dictionaries). I have to use a basic search for those. I'm hoping some of those will eventually be included in the topic search results.
Todd:
These claims aren't quite correct. The LCV includes more than 2000 personal names (as of tonight, the current internal version has 2235 to be exact). While i don't have an easy way to count the historical or theological terms, i'm quite certain hundreds of the other 8000 terms describe just those kinds of concepts.
On the other hand, you're correct that the Columbia Encyclopedia isn't currently included, and neither are the English dictionaries like Merriam-Webster. Our highest priority at present is integrating resources that are specific to Biblical studies: that includes other Bible dictionaries, specialized reference works like the Archaeological Encyclopedia of the Holy Land, the Zondervan Encyclopedia, etc.
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MJ. Smith said:Sean Boisen said:
The best news I can offer on this front is that I've been actively working to train my replacement
so I hope our progress will be accelerating. Well - the best news would be that your replacement (a) requires no sleep (b) is able to type of 5 keyboards simultaneously (c) has never made an error ...
The best news would be if your replacement isn't actually going to replace you but be added to your team. This project seems like it needs a team of 3-5 people working on it full time. And I don't see the work ever being finished, either. Think of all the new pre-pubs and community pricing titles that are coming along which are indexed by headword. Huge multi-volume encyclopedias, etc. Those will all need to be tagged with LCV.
Are you leaving the company or just moving on to other work elsewhere at Logos? Will be sad to see you go, regardless.
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Sean,
I'm reasonably glad about a Controlled Vocabulary (I understand the benefits - and remember the pain - when it was introduced at www.istockphoto.com). But what I really don't understand is why transitional arrangements weren't in place.
The exegetical guide lists all the dictionary articles for a given work - why doesn't search do that? I get 32 results for family in BWS, but only 5 in search. I don't understand why Logos can't use the technology from this report to provide results for the topic search whilst the LCV is being built. It would be relatively easy to do and it would get people off your back so you can concentrate on doing the tagging.
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Sean Boisen said:Ron Barry said:
I would have thought the IVP Dictionaries which were just released would have been searchable. Are these slated for editing to allow inclusion in topical searches?
Yes, they are.
Here are the dictionaries that are currently included:
- ISBE
- Anchor-Yale
Bible Dictionary - New Bible Dictionary
- Eerdmans Bible Dictionary
- Eerdmans Dictionary
of the Bible - Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible
- Tyndale Bible Dictionary
Those already in the pipeline for release:
- Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Dictionary
- Harper's Bible Dictionary
- Archaeological Encyclopedia of the Holy Land
Virtually all the subject-oriented resources we have (Bible dictionaries, encyclopedias, etc.) are slated for inclusion: it just takes time.
Sean
I note that there is no warning on the products page that the three dictionaries listed as 'in the pipeline' have not yet been fully tagged.
Nor is there any notice that the 'Zondervan Encyclopedia of the Bible' is not yet Logos 4 ready on the individual page for that product.
More blatantly misleading the product page for the Zondervan Bible Reference Bundle, still today, states ...
- All books are searchable by subject or Scripture reference.
- Scripture references in every book appear on mouseover and are linked directly to the Bibles in your digital library.
- Titles integrate into custom search reports, Passage Guides, Exegetical Guides, and the other advanced features of Logos Bible Software.
This is untrue, using 'Biblical People' to search for entries brings up no hits.
Both these products were announced after the features of 'Biblical People' etc were known to be included in Logos 4
It was the above criteria that persuaded me to purchase this set - and to begin the process of disposing of my paper copies.
Now I find I have a partially completed product.
Please will you advise on when it is expected that work on this rather expensive and over sold bundle will be complete.
Thank you
Mike
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Mark Barnes said:
Sean,
I'm reasonably glad about a Controlled Vocabulary (I understand the benefits - and remember the pain - when it was introduced at www.istockphoto.com). But what I really don't understand is why transitional arrangements weren't in place.
The exegetical guide lists all the dictionary articles for a given work - why doesn't search do that? I get 32 results for family in BWS, but only 5 in search. I don't understand why Logos can't use the technology from this report to provide results for the topic search whilst the LCV is being built. It would be relatively easy to do and it would get people off your back so you can concentrate on doing the tagging.
That's very helpful to know about.
One thing, though: This only works for a limited set of words. I tried it for Abishag, and the closest it could come up with was Abiathar, even though Abishag is a character in the Bible (1 Ki 1:3) and shows up in the Zondervan Encyclopedia of the Bible: logosres:zeb01;hw=Abishag
Mike Binks said:This is untrue, using 'Biblical People' to search for entries brings up no hits.
Yes, I agree, Biblical People search is lame until the LCV work is finished. I was hoping BWS would be a good workaround in the meantime, but apparently it isn't, as illustrated by my experience with Abishag.
So, what gives with BWS? Why is that word list so limited?
Other missing words from this section of this list:
abide, Abigail, Abimelech, Abishai, etc.
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Rosie Perera said:
One thing, though: This only works for a limited set of words. I tried it for Abishag, and the closest it could come up with was Abiathar, even though Abishag is a character in the Bible (1 Ki 1:3) and shows up in the Zondervan Encyclopedia of the Bible: logosres:zeb01;hw=Abishag
There is a second workaround, which works for all dictionary entries, but it's slightly more complicated. To use your example, type look up abishag in the command bar. You'll get the first dictionary article for this word. You can then use parallel resource sets, or the + tab to show all your other resources (it's the list on the right).
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Hmm, that doesn't help me any. What might cause mine to be different? I'm fully indexed, and a Basic search for Abishag in my Dictionaries collection does find it in those dictionaries. I suppose I should try rebuild index overnight anyway.
Is that the built-in BWS template or a custom one? Did you type abishag in manually in that box or did you get to the BWS by right-clicking on some other instance of Abishag? I can get the result you got using the right-click method, but I can't type abishag into the box and have it be accepted. Can you show me a screenshot of your auto-complete menu dropped down after typing a few letters of abishag?
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Mike Binks said:
Dear Sir,
Your letter of complaint about the car we sold you last week is unreasonable.
Whilst we did advertise it at being at the cutting edge of technology and providing ultimate safety
- the car has brakes fitted to three of its wheels and we are working hard to produce a model with all four wheels provided with brakes. We have somebody working on it. In the meantime a workaround is to apply the breaks gently and lug the steering wheel in the opposite direction that the car tends to travel in.
- the very latest and brightest of light fittings are included in the car, these are working fully, the reason that the lights are dim is that we have not yet had time to sort out the electrics. Once a proper power supply is provided the lights will shine out with great illumination.
In the meantime we will continue to advertise our car as having all the features now, that we hope it will have when we get round to finishing it.
Enjoy your new vehicle it has the potential to be the best car on the road.
Sorry to hear that you have sold your old one before you realised the features or our model were coming someday.
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Hee hee, very funny. [:)]
BTW, I take your tongue-in-cheek letter as a response to me and Mark. But we're just trying to work something out between the two of us. Not necessarily to help you with your dissatisfaction. Well, we were (and it was for my own benefit too), but obviously you didn't appreciate our help. We're all in this boat together. So it doesn't really help to be sarcastic to those who are trying to help, though I did catch your sense of humor (I think). You need to call Logos directly, though, if you're really quite irritated with them. You always sound so cheerful though -- with the way you sign off "tootle pip" -- that I can't really believe you're upset. Are you?
Cheerio! [:)]
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Hi Rosie
Rosie Perera said:BTW, I take your tongue-in-cheek letter as a response to me and Mark
I am glad it made you smile. The response wasn't aimed directly at anyone but was intended to highlight the difference between talk and action on the part of Logos as a company.
Rosie Perera said:You always sound so cheerful though
Well I am not going to make myself miserable about it
Rosie Perera said:I can't really believe you're upset. Are you?
Actually I am! I paid, on the basis of the advertising, which at the time pushed quite hard by Logos, over £1000 for the Zondervan bundle.
At the time it was sold the features of Logos 4 were also being pushed and advertised. The Zondervan Collection is not a legacy product, if it were waiting for upgrades to tagging etc would be understandable - this is a new, sold into the Logos 4 market, product that has not been properly prepared.
In fact Logos is still letting itself down, and in the UK would be breaking the law, by suggesting in its advertising that this bundle performs in a way that it clearly does not.
Had I known in advance the shortcomings of the tagging on this product I would have waited until work on it was complete. It cost a lot of money. Now I have disposed of some of my hard copy resources to offset the cost and am stuck with partially completed product that was marketed as being feature complete.
I am content to wait for features to come on stream with the Logos Alpha - I understand that and went in with my eyes wide open.
I am content to wait for my legacy titles to be upgraded - those have the features that were advertised at the time.
I expect new resources to work as soon as features become available in the Alpha - especially those features which were already present when the work of preparing the resoucese was being undertaken.
In the case of the Zondervan bundle, I feel conned and what is more with the current advertisement on the product page other customers are likely to be conned too.
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Mark Barnes said:
I get Abishag (by typing) as well. But I created a wiki bug report (Confirmed) about the limited bible vocabulary BWS_does_not_accept_all_bible_words.
The effort being put into LCV is very commendable but I have thought it was too ambitious, unnecessary even, given the metadata improvements that are absolutely needed and that a more straightforward approach to topic searching would easily provide improved results over L3 (it is worth noting that L3 provided many hits at the expense of accuracy, yet L4 came out with this arcane approach via Basic Search when BWS Definition was the obvious area to concentrate on). Net result - L4 is backwards on any real progress in the areas of both topic searching and metadata accuracy, and Logos appears to have lost one of its Information Architects.
That's a long way of agreeing with the other MVP's here!
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I've often thought that giving the Power Search window a search field for entering search words would go a long way towards satisfying my dictionary search requirements.
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Rosie Perera said:
The best news would be if your replacement isn't actually going to replace you but be added to your team. This project seems like it needs a team of 3-5 people working on it full time. And I don't see the work ever being finished, either. Think of all the new pre-pubs and community pricing titles that are coming along which are indexed by headword. Huge multi-volume encyclopedias, etc. Those will all need to be tagged with LCV.
Are you leaving the company or just moving on to other work elsewhere at Logos? Will be sad to see you go, regardless.
Oh no, i'm not going anywhere. But one important hold-up has been that i have responsibilities in a dozen different directions, so i've been the bottleneck on some technical aspects of getting more data released. Consequently we've been working for the last few months to get somebody else up to speed so i'm not clogging the channel.
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Rosie Perera said:
Hmm, that doesn't help me any. What might cause mine to be different? I'm fully indexed, and a Basic search for Abishag in my Dictionaries collection does find it in those dictionaries. I suppose I should try rebuild index overnight anyway.
Is that the built-in BWS template or a custom one? Did you type abishag in manually in that box or did you get to the BWS by right-clicking on some other instance of Abishag? I can get the result you got using the right-click method, but I can't type abishag into the box and have it be accepted. Can you show me a screenshot of your auto-complete menu dropped down after typing a few letters of abishag?
Yes, things certainly seem to be missing from your list. Here's what i have for "abi" (with preferred Bible as ESV), and as the scroll bar suggests this is not the whole list:
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Sean Boisen said:Todd Phillips said:
Unlike others, this is my biggest disappointment with Logos4. In
addition to the dictionaries yet to be tagged, the LCV excludes
historical terms, theological terms, personal names, and other technical
terms, which means that my historical, theological, and biographical
dictionaries are excluded by default from topic searches (not to
mention, my Columbia Encyclopedia and English dictionaries). I have to
use a basic search for those. I'm hoping some of those will eventually
be included in the topic search results.Todd:
These claims aren't quite correct. The LCV includes more than 2000
personal names (as of tonight, the current internal version has 2235 to
be exact). While i don't have an easy way to count the historical or
theological terms, i'm quite certain hundreds of the other 8000 terms
describe just those kinds of concepts.On the other hand, you're correct that the Columbia Encyclopedia
isn't currently included, and neither are the English dictionaries like
Merriam-Webster. Our highest priority at present is integrating
resources that are specific to Biblical studies: that includes other
Bible dictionaries, specialized reference works like the Archaeological
Encyclopedia of the Holy Land, the Zondervan Encyclopedia, etc.I'm
sorry to have spread disinformation. I guess I was basing it on old
info and on not seeing topic results for those kinds of searches (Like
"calvin" or "deism" or "apologetics").I appreciate that you have a prioritized list--I hope that the IVP dictionaries are very high on the list. I'm also hoping that some resources that aren't directly related to "Biblical Studies" per se are on your list, like Oxford dictionary of the Christian Church, the New Dictionary of Theology, the Dictionary of Christianity in America and other similar are also fairly high on the list.
I'm assuming in the future I can type in the last name of an individual, and get results for all person topics with that last name?
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Dave Hooton said:
... yet L4 came out with this arcane approach via Basic Search when BWS Definition was the obvious area to concentrate on). Net result - L4 is backwards on any real progress in the areas of both topic searching and metadata accuracy, and Logos appears to have lost one of its Information Architects.
That's a long way of agreeing with the other MVP's here!
One clarification search terms: BWS exposes only the terms you can actually find in your Bible. So unless you have KJV as your preferred Bible, you won't ever see "Jimnah" as a search term, since that form is only used in the KJV (Gen 46:17): modern translations use "Imnah" instead.
On the other hand, Basic Search really does expose almost all the terms you can find in your library. And Biblical People exposes all the common variants of names that mean the same thing and are within the Biblical scope (so you can search BP for "Jimnah" regardless of your preferred Bible, but you can't search for Philo because he's not found in the Biblical text). We're actually trying to carefully design our features so you get the right behavior in the right place without having to think too hard about it (granted that we're still working toward that goal).
And no, this Information Architect is no more lost than he was before [:)]
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Todd Phillips said:
... I appreciate that you have a prioritized list--I hope that the IVP dictionaries are very high on the list. I'm also hoping that some resources that aren't directly related to "Biblical Studies" per se are on your list, like Oxford dictionary of the Christian Church, the New Dictionary of Theology, the Dictionary of Christianity in America and other similar are also fairly high on the list.
I'm assuming in the future I can type in the last name of an individual, and get results for all person topics with that last name?
Yes, the IVP dictionaries are reasonably high on the list, though we're starting with those resources that have the broadest placement in our base packages.
We definitely would like to extend the LCV to individuals in church history as well as more detailed theological concepts, though that's a little further down the road. But I hope we'll get to the point where you can type "Calvin" and get links to biographical articles, as well as "sermons by", "resources about", etc. Likewise, I'd love to offer the ability to enter "Wesley", get links to information about John, but then also provide a link for resources about Charles (in the same way that a search for "bear" currently offers you three different concepts described by that term).
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Sean Boisen said:
One clarification search terms: BWS exposes only the terms you can actually find in your Bible. So unless you have KJV as your preferred Bible, you won't ever see "Jimnah" as a search term, since that form is only used in the KJV (Gen 46:17): modern translations use "Imnah" instead.
Okay if I disagree with your logic here - I'm more apt to be looking for names in forms that AREN'T in my Bibles - they are more apt to be unfamiliar.
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MJ. Smith said:Sean Boisen said:
One clarification search terms: BWS exposes only the terms you can actually find in your Bible. So unless you have KJV as your preferred Bible, you won't ever see "Jimnah" as a search term, since that form is only used in the KJV (Gen 46:17): modern translations use "Imnah" instead.
Okay if I disagree with your logic here - I'm more apt to be looking for names in forms that AREN'T in my Bibles - they are more apt to be unfamiliar.
Me too, but it makes sense to me that I'd need to search for that somewhere else than via Bible Word Search. However I wish it would use a combined list of words that are found in any of the Bibles I have in my library. Even though my preferred Bible might be TNIV, I might remember a word from the days when I was using KJV and not realize that it isn't translated that way in TNIV, and I might want to do a word study on it.
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MJ. Smith said:Sean Boisen said:
One clarification search terms: BWS exposes only the terms you can actually find in your Bible. So unless you have KJV as your preferred Bible, you won't ever see "Jimnah" as a search term, since that form is only used in the KJV (Gen 46:17): modern translations use "Imnah" instead.
Okay if I disagree with your logic here - I'm more apt to be looking for names in forms that AREN'T in my Bibles - they are more apt to be unfamiliar.
In that case you'll want to use Bible Search (or Biblical People/Places) instead. I'm not proposing this is more logical, only asserting that it's the current behavior.
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Sean Boisen said:MJ. Smith said:Sean Boisen said:
One clarification search terms: BWS exposes only the terms you can actually find in your Bible. So unless you have KJV as your preferred Bible, you won't ever see "Jimnah" as a search term, since that form is only used in the KJV (Gen 46:17): modern translations use "Imnah" instead.
Okay if I disagree with your logic here - I'm more apt to be looking for names in forms that AREN'T in my Bibles - they are more apt to be unfamiliar.
In that case you'll want to use Bible Search (or Biblical People/Places) instead. I'm not proposing this is more logical, only asserting that it's the current behavior.
The point is that we can select virtually any word and get a definition from BWS eg. I can enter holy but have to use the context menu for holiness (which is in my bible).
Dave
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Mike Binks said:
In the case of the Zondervan bundle, I feel conned and what is more with the current advertisement on the product page other customers are likely to be conned too.
I don't feel conned, but I was certainly disappointed as well. It seems a bit like release it quick and add features on the fly. This used to not bother me so much, but a few years ago I got fed up with computing problems and moved to a position where I just wanted computing solutions that just fully worked out of the box, were stable and were of extremely high quality. Because the Zondervan stuff was released post 4.0, I had expectations for full compatibility.
Suggestion: Perhaps product pages should have an icon indicating full compatibility for Logos 4? Obviously what "full compatibility" is would need to be defined, but it would help users wade through what resources are still optimised for L3 and which ones really take advantage of L4's capabilities.
<soapbox> The other trouble with the solution of release quick and add features on the fly is that we expect that everyone can download endless large updates. The recent interlinear updates were HUGE. There are parts of the US and indeed the rest of the world where this is a very big problem. </soapbox>
My two pence worth. I still like Logos, but this would be a humble critique of what appears to be the prevailing wind of the L4 generation of products.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
Suggestion: Perhaps product pages should have an icon indicating full compatibility for Logos 4? Obviously what "full compatibility" is would need to be defined, but it would help users wade through what resources are still optimised for L3 and which ones really take advantage of L4's capabilities.
This post from Bob explains why he doesn't think the lack of LCV tagging constitutes incompatibility with L4: "It never occurred to me that you'd consider a book not indexed to the
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Mark Barnes said:
This post from Bob explains why he doesn't think the lack of LCV tagging constitutes incompatibility with L4: "It never occurred to me that you'd consider a book not indexed to the
LCV to be incomplete."However in that post Bob is looking at it from a production rather than a users point of view.
I do a Passage Guide for a reference. Opening up on my left hand pane are 17 tags. The bottom four are links to outside sources and the top one for my own notes. Of the others, now 12, that interact with my paid for resources, three Biblical People, Biblical Places and Biblical Things do not work with the resource.
Now as a user that looks to me like one third of my program is non-functioning. I know that this discounts many other features not in that list that may work or may not.
How are we users to know which areas of the program are affected by this tagging programme?.
The whole ethos of Logos is set to encourage us to trust it to find the references in the resources and not to have to go hunting round each one individually.
That it did not find Elijah (or it would seem anyone else) in the Zondervan Encyclopaedia I think is a serious omission.
I am afraid that Bob's line simply shows a lack of imagination and in this case little appreciation of the user experience.
Mike
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Mike Binks said:
However in that post Bob is looking at it from a production rather than a users point of view.
I am afraid that Bob's line simply shows a lack of imagination and in this case little appreciation of the user experience.
You're obviously right about this, though I sympathise with him as it's unusual for him. I'm glad he's admitted as much, rather than trying to cover up. (I'm sure he's so familiar with the way Logos works and the company's policies that he sometimes 'forgets' how things can seem to those people without that knowledge.)
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