Curses of Almighty God & Saints Peter & Paul
Given that the Indignation of Almighty God and the wrath of Saints Peter and Paul attach to certain Roman Catholic Documents, I assert it is eminently reasonable to presume that my purchase of the Verbum Basic Library should include such items. It does not.
One such item--The Code of Canon Law, 1917--fortunately, is now approaching availability as a pre-publication option:
The 1917 Code of Canon Law in English & Latin (2 vols.); By Edward N. Peters / 2 publishers / 1918–2001.
[I might draw attention especially to c. 1325: Pertinent to ALL LOGOS customers who would consider themselves "Christian" of some persuasion. Given that the Novus Ordo Schismatic Sect (and all non-Catholic Christians for that matter) have set this Code aside: It bears even more critically toward True Christians than ever before!]
I maintain that I shouldn't have to purchase this BASIC item at additional cost, but should, along with any other Verbum Basic package owners, merely receive it as a "missing BASIC item" absent from our original packages. By virtue of Pope Benedict XV's Proventissima Mater Ecclesia: True and Faithful Catholics are bound by THIS Code of Canon Law. [I have no use for the "other one" invalidly (1983) promulgated by heretical anti-popes and included in the third level Verbum package.]
For the moment: the same Curses also attach to Pope Paul IV's "Cum ex Apostolatus Officio", Pope Pius II's "Execrabilis", to Pope St. Pius V's "Quo Primum", to Pope St. Pius X's papal election law "Vacante Sede Apostolica" and to Pope Pius XII's "Vacantis Apostolica Sedis." Suffice it to say that it is near-impossible for Catholics to understand the dire Identity Theft of The True Church since 1958 without reference to these key documents.
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Setting aside the sedevacantist claims, from a numbers perspective, there are a lot more Catholics that accept and use the 1983 Code of Canon Law and would view the 1917 as interesting for historical study, but not relevant for daily living. If the demand were that high for the 1917 Code, it would already have been in production. It's hard to fault Faithlife for that.
Although, if they wanted to include it for free, I wouldn't complain. [;)]
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Active link:
The 1917 Code of Canon Law in English & Latin (2 vols.) by Edward N. Peters
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Average Joe said:
Setting aside the sedevacantist claims...
Precisely WHY it should already be a part of the Verbum Basic (Catholic) package.
So "Yes" I do fault anyone claiming to be profiting from any presentation of "The Catholic Basic Faith" for omitting it. Its contents are precisely part of THE DEPOSIT OF FAITH handed down from the Disciples and their legitimate successors. [Of course this is why Faithlife is NOT CATHOLIC!]
EQUALLY OFFENSIVE: Faithlife DID NOT INCLUDE
The Sources of Catholic Dogma; by Denzinger, Henry, Deferrari, Roy J., Rahner, Karl, B. Herder 1957
in my Verbum Basic collection.
(Somehow I paid for it separately and added it to my personal library. I can't find record of the purchase of it in my account?)
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Gregory Lynne said:
n my Verbum Basic collection.
I have Verbum Capstone and still find many Catholic works are excluded. I don't think it is fair to fault Faithlife for not including everything in a base package.
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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The Sources of Catholic Dogma is included in Verbum Basic and all the Verbum base packages.
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Gregory Lynne said:
(Somehow I paid for it separately and added it to my personal library. I can't find record of the purchase of it in my account?)
Are you possibly outside the US and Canada?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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What we need is the Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ott!
Please bring it back into Verbum!
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"Great" if it is. I've searched for it multiple times on the comparison chart of the various packages and still can't find it...maybe it's just not listed?
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By default the comparison chart is set to just show titles that you don't already own. That may be why you aren't seeing it.
If you change "New to You" to "All" at the top, you'll see the full list.
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Matthew Jones: Knowing Canon Law and basic dogmas (Denzinger) of the Faith are about as basic as an adult Catholic can get. I agree that most adult Catholics are ignorant of their importance, their existence, or of their relevance. Bad shepherds.
I guess you're right too: I wouldn't expect non-Catholics at Faithlife to know some basic facts that most Catholics are ignorant of themselves. [cf. canon 1325 again...]
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Gregory Lynne said:
Matthew Jones: Knowing Canon Law and basic dogmas (Denzinger) of the Faith are about as basic as an adult Catholic can get. I agree that most adult Catholics are ignorant of their importance, their existence, or of their relevance. Bad shepherds.
Please don't call so many pastors "bad shepherds". I have met only one other person who considered canon law as basic for laity - important for laity in certain leadership positions yes. However, I would expect to see Jurgens and Ott high on the list ... despite the translation problems re: Ott. And where is the demand for Jungmann? Logos has to take into account that there are different reading levels, different interests, different native languages, different parish emphases ... in building a base package. Everyone will find something that is basic to them that is missing in the collection - we're catholic Catholics after all. And good shepherds know their sheep ... which does not make them "bad".
Gregory Lynne said:I guess you're right too: I wouldn't expect non-Catholics at Faithlife to know some basic facts that most Catholics are ignorant of themselves. [cf. canon 1325 again...]
That is true. But the Catholic packages were not put together by "non-Catholics at Faithlife". The Catholic leadership that has been at Verbum have been very well qualified and with a specific interest in the education of laity. What goes into the packages depends upon what is available and Catholic materials have presented special difficulty e.g. the national bishops having the rights to the catechism, Ott being offered before additional issues with the rights were discovered. And the contract that Faithlife has negotiated influences whether or not an item can be included in a base package.
The nice thing, however, is that we are able to influence the direction that Catholic products move based upon our purchases, prepub support and suggestions. You can push for canon law materials and I can push for liturgical materials. [:)]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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