What's Included in Logos 7

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  • The sermon tool is only evaluated if you buy a program apart, this really is very bad, buy a presentation program without needing only to use an integrated text editor, really absurd, the sentence creation tool is now no longer available , Only if I pay well is a delay since version 6 was already included, the Logos Bible is a great tool, but it made me sad, since I have little financial resources, I feel excluded, to use this powerful tool ...

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle Member, MVP Posts: 32,429 ✭✭✭

    Hi Antonio - and welcome to the forums

    I don't follow all your points but let me comment on some of them

    The sermon tool is only evaluated if you buy a program apart,

    Not quite sure what you mean here - the sermon document / editor feature is included with the Logos 7 Full Feature Set or a Logos Now subscription. So it is an additional cost but is then a fully integrated part of the Logos environment.

    the sentence creation tool is now no longer available

    What tool are you referring to here?

    Only if I pay well is a delay since version 6 was already included

    I don't understand this - could you please clarify / expand?

  • Hello! Thank you for contacting me, I have been a user since the time of libronix 2, I still have with me the physical media and their respective licenses. I know that the sermon feature was only evaluated in logos 7, but I stayed out of this resource, because I updated to version 7 and the logos informed me that I was preseeding the Proclaim program to use the sermon editor, I have to pay for a monthly fee To use the editor, since it is on the subscription basis. For me it became unfeasible, I will get an extra program based on monthly fees, to use a refusal that is already in the core of the program? Just not active Because if it was not part of the core, there would be a guide with the name Sermon!

    The resource I said is not evaluated in the document guide where the syntactic analysis, (sentence diagram) with arrows and visual effects, which in logos 6 I used normally, and now it is saying that I have to acquire the part.

    When your last question that you did not understand, I am embarrassed to say here publicly, I have no financial resources to buy, I know that this program is worth every penny, every drop of sweat of its programmers, but I wanted at least what I already Used in Logos 6.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle Member, MVP Posts: 32,429 ✭✭✭

    I know that the sermon feature was only evaluated in logos 7

    Yes the Sermon Editor was only introduced in Logos 7

    to use the sermon editor, I have to pay for a monthly fee To use the editor, since it is on the subscription basis. For me it became unfeasible, I will get an extra program based on monthly fees, to use a refusal that is already in the core of the program?

    Yes - as per my post above you either need to buy the Full Feature Set or subscribe to Logos Now to get access to the Sermon Editor

    Because if it was not part of the core, there would be a guide with the name Sermon

    It isn't actually implemented as a Guide but as a new Document type

    The resource I said is not evaluated in the document guide where the syntactic analysis, (sentence diagram) with arrows and visual effects, which in logos 6 I used normally, and now it is saying that I have to acquire the part.

    I think you are referring to the Sentence Diagram Document - is that correct?

    If you had access to this in Logos 6 you should continue to have access to it if you move to Logos 7

    When your last question that you did not understand, I am embarrassed to say here publicly, I have no financial resources to buy, I know that this program is worth every penny, every drop of sweat of its programmers, but I wanted at least what I already Used in Logos 6.

    Understood - and pleased don't be embarrassed by that

    You should be able to upgrade to the free version of Logos 7 - available at https://www.logos.com/product/136022/basic 

    And anything that used to work for you in Logos 6 should continue to work for you there.

    It won't include the Sermon Editor or a lot of the features in chargeable versions of Logos 7 but will provide the latest engine, some new features and the latest set of fixes.

    If you have problems with that please create a new thread in the forum and we'll work with you to get it sorted.

  • Thank you, your help was precious, I will uninstall and install again by following your link 

  • Matthew Nowak
    Matthew Nowak Member Posts: 1

    How do I change my bibles on text comparison? 

  • Scott E. Mahle
    Scott E. Mahle Member Posts: 752 ✭✭✭

    How do I change my bibles on text comparison? 

    Look HERE.

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  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    How do I change my bibles on text comparison? 

    Hi Matthew

    Welcome to the New Year and welcome to the forum - you will find plenty of advice here so don't hesitate to ask.

    It is better though ask a new question as a New Post...

    making sure that you give the new post a meaningful title. That way help will be focused on your question and others can search for it if they have a similar problem.

    Having said that I only partially understand how to actually change the bibles in Text Comparison and don't find the help file particularly useful.

    You could try this as an example...

    Type the three resources (or similar) into the top bar. Note NO spaces.

    Click on the line '9 resources with...

    This populates the top box with all the possible selections, some you may need to hover over with the cursor to see what they are.

    Untick the ones that you don't want to show in the comparison window.

    Then click 'Save'.

    At this point you may need to close and open the window again.

    Now scroll down the panel to...

    ... where is says either 'Saved' or 'Recent' and double click on one of the lines.

    Then simply click somewhere outside the box.

    This provides me with the list that I actually want about 30% of the time. I guess the failures are due to me missing a step in the rather convoluted and arcane system but I usually get there with only a modicum of wasted time.

    Do let us know how you get on...

    tootle pip

    Mike

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle Member, MVP Posts: 32,429 ✭✭✭
  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Logos Employee Posts: 5,362

    I might be able to help with some of your confusion, Mike.

    Type the three resources (or similar) into the top bar. Note NO spaces.

    ...

    There are very good odds that this does not do what you want it to do. When you type something, the list of displayed items gets filtered using a simple text match against the title and abbreviated title shown in the list. Just type "NIV" and then check the one you want to use. Then replace "NIV" with "ESV" and check the one you want to use. Then replace "ESV" with "NLT" and check the one you want to use.

    The "# resourcess with..." item is used if you just want to select all items that are a result of a library search (such as you might use in the Library panel). This is usually overkill, particularly if you don't plan on using the results "as-is".

    At this point you can click outside the popup to allow the the Text Comparison to update, and you are done. You don't need to do anything else.

    You don't need to use "Save" unless you think you might want to select the list again, and don't want to have to reenter it.

    ... where is says either 'Saved' or 'Recent' and double click on one of the lines.

    No need to double click to load a saved or recent item. Just single click will do. In fact, double clicking will sometimes mess things up if the number of selected items changes, as your second click may register on a different item than your first click, causing that to load instead of the one you wanted.

    I hope this helps make the selector easier for you to use.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks Member, MVP Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the tutorial Andrew - it is indeed helpful.

    The authors of the help file might like to consider the confusion that I got into by reviewing the line...

    3. Click into the Resources box and choose the Bibles you want to compare.
    You can type a list of Bible abbreviations with commas between each (i.e., NASB95, NIV, ESV, KJV).

     Logos Help. (2016). Bellingham, WA: Faithlife.

    Your explanation is clear. I consider, in the light of your explanation, the second sentence to be misleading at best.

    A link in the help file to the training video would be very useful here.

    tootle pip

    Mike

    How to get logs and post them.   (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Logos Employee Posts: 5,362

    Thanks for the tutorial Andrew - it is indeed helpful.

    The authors of the help file might like to consider the confusion that I got into by reviewing the line...

    3. Click into the Resources box and choose the Bibles you want to compare.
    You can type a list of Bible abbreviations with commas between each (i.e., NASB95, NIV, ESV, KJV).

     Logos Help. (2016). Bellingham, WA: Faithlife.

    Your explanation is clear. I consider, in the light of your explanation, the second sentence to be misleading at best.

    A link in the help file to the training video would be very useful here.

    Ah... looks like we neglected to get the help file updated when we replaced the resource selector. Thanks for letting us know. We'll get it fixed up.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Spice Agent
    Spice Agent Member Posts: 1

    I would like to find if there are any other places where a hebrew noun is used more than once in any two chapter range and compare how those words are translated in each location.  If there are examples where it's plainly inaccurate to translate them the same, that are in close proximity, and require different translations