Why you should not store ANY information in Logos
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Mark Barnes said:
I have never used the Prayer List functionality, and don't keep any notes on individuals in the software.
Exactly. I have never used the prayer list and will not. So this issue doesn't really affect me directly.
However, I know many do and I wish FL was a bit more sensitive to the issue.
And on another note, I've loaded quite a few lessons, sermons, etc. into the software. I can't tell you that I am absolutely certain there isn't any personal information in any of those, so short of deleting all those items, I still have a very diminutive dog in the fight.
Some have complained about Russ' tone. I think he's done what was necessary to get the matter noticed. I highly respect those who will stick their neck out, especially when unpopular, for what they think is right. So even though it matters not a whit, Russ, I appreciate both your message and your tone!
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Doc B said:
Exactly. I have never used the prayer list and will not. So this issue doesn't really affect me directly.
How can you be sure your cousellor/discipler/friend who prays for you doesn't use Logos' prayer lists, and puts all the gory details in there...?
The individuals who are really directly affected, don't even know about it...
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Jan Krohn said:
How can you be sure your cousellor/discipler/friend who prays for you doesn't use Logos' prayer lists, and puts all the gory details in there...?
It has to do with the ethics we've been taught ... the only question mark could be friend where I'd be more concerned with Facebook than Logos.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Jan Krohn said:
How can you be sure your cousellor/discipler/friend who prays for you doesn't use Logos' prayer lists, and puts all the gory details in there...?
I don't, but then, that would be indirectly, and my claim was about directly.
But you do raise a valid point, and that's why I put the second proposition in my post about wishing FL would be more sensitive to the issue (I tried using a nice, soft, non-accusatory word there...I might have said, "...would wake the heck up," but that might have been offensive...same difference, though).
I certainly agree with your last sentence, if you take out the word, "directly"; it is an absolutely true statement.
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Jan Krohn said:
How can you be sure your cousellor/discipler/friend who prays for you doesn't use Logos' prayer lists, and puts all the gory details in there...?
I am sure she doesn't use Logos prayer lists. I have her sign-in password. [H]
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Denise said:
the cloud is the safer location these days
I agree, although I don't use much.
Basically anything what we put in the Internet is or may become public. And anything we store in our computers or other devices may find its way to the Internet.
Actually nothing we think or say is safe "for a bird might report what you are thinking, or some winged creature might repeat your words." The NET Bible (Ec 10:20). (You might also check Cf. T. H. Gaster, ‘The telltale bird’, in Myth, Legend, and Custom in the Old Testament (1969), p. 838., a reference in Eaton, M. A. (1983). Ecclesiastes: An introduction and commentary (Vol. 18). IVP.). In the next future technology horror scenario there might be bird-like drones watching you and perhaps with some kind of microphone listening or radar reading your thoughts!
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Veli Voipio said:
I cannot understand why people think the cloud is safe. Everyone is entitled to their opinions I guess.
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Now, Mark. A bit of exegetical slight of hand, there! Safe?
'safe-ER' Compared to most people's PC's, I'd recommend a reputable/large cloud site ... eg Apple, Amazon, etc.
Your PC is a sieve, for even low-end hacking.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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At one point Logos used Amazon cloud ... don't know if that is still the case.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
At one point Logos used Amazon cloud ... don't know if that is still the case.
I'm pretty sure they only use Amazon S3 for serving setup and resource files. I don't think they've ever used any of Amazon EC2 or similar for storing our data. That's all on their own servers.
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Mark Barnes said:
I'm pretty sure they only use Amazon S3 for serving setup and resource files. I don't think they've ever used any of Amazon EC2 or similar for storing our data. That's all on their own servers.
This is correct.
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