Changes for iPad using logos7

Josselyn SERY

hi, I would like to know if there is any change on the logos app for iPad, when buying logos 7 or logos now?

will the iPad still be using the same features in a way that the only change will be some more books?

sorry, English is not my first language

all the best

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Graham Criddle

Hi Josselyn - and welcome to the forums

In general, buying Logos 7 or Logos Now won't affect the iPad app apart from resources.

Any changes will require an update to the app

The only thing I can think of at the moment is that the recent change to the app to support continuous scrolling in Text Comparison is only available to Logos Now subscribers.

Graham

Mike Binks

hi, I would like to know if there is any change on the logos app for iPad, when buying logos 7 or logos now?

will the iPad still be using the same features in a way that the only change will be some more books?

Hi Josselyn

As a rule of thumb the upgrade to Logos 7 should be considered in two stages...

1. Either Logos Now or the misnamed 'Full Features Set' which isn't quite as full as Logos Now. This, too all intents and purposes, is a software upgrade.

2. An upgrade to resources from, for example Bronze purchased as a Logos 6 set and Bronze purchased as a Logos 7 set. This is a resource update.

Without 1 you will be effectively on 6 even when the engine goes to 7. Without 2 you will be without 2.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/850251#Comment_850251

Without 1 you will be effectively on 6 even when the engine goes to 7. Without 2 you will be without 2.

Hi Mike

Not sure how some of these comments apply to the iPad app.

Trying to avoid confusing Josselyn - am I missing something?

Graham

Josselyn SERY

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/850252#Comment_850252

Hi Graham and Mike,

thanks for your concerns and quick answers.

So, if I understand, it's not worth upgrading to logos 7 if I only use my iPad. I will have nothing more than what is given from logos 6. The app is the same for logos 6 and 7

Blessings

Josselyn SERY

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/850366#Comment_850366

Sorry you mentioned one change about the text comparison

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/850366#Comment_850366

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So, if I understand, it's not worth upgrading to logos 7 if I only use my iPad. I will have nothing more than what is given from logos 6. The app is the same for logos 6 and 7

Yes, the mobile app is developed and released seperately to the desktop. So apart from extra resources there would be no change apart from TC which I'll cover below

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/850367#Comment_850367

Sorry you mentioned one change about the text comparison

The app now supports scrolling text comparison

But this is only available for Logos Now subscribers

Josselyn SERY

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/850377#Comment_850377

What a blessing you are! Thanks so much for such clarity and for your precious time to help me

May the Lord bless you

LukeWarmBoiling

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/850242#Comment_850242

Good morning Graham, thought I would ask you pretty much the same question, but more focused on Logos Now on iPad. Not sure if you work for Logos or not, but like Josselyn, I LOVE to read and study from my iPad Pro. I'm dying to know if and when the "Logos Now" can be accessed from iPad, specifically the search function that I'm dying without. I've heard that it is more like a Google search (with Logos Now), which I know I can benefit from. The search feature the way it is without the $99 upgrade is quite frustrating. It seems so bizarre to type in "kick against the goads" and it yields results that aren't anything I'm looking for, which happens to be Acts 26:14, to pass along for witnessing purposes. Whats the trick in the current search field to yield meaningful information?

Jacob

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883675#Comment_883675

I would ask you pretty much the same question, but more focused on Logos Now on iPad.

First, welcome to the forums! [:)]

I'm dying to know if and when the "Logos Now" can be accessed from iPad, specifically the search function that I'm dying without.

"Logos Now" isn't a product, but a service (membership program). Depending on what you own, there may be some features available to you which would not be available without the LN membership (or other purchase). I am unaware of any differences in searches.

The search feature the way it is without the $99 upgrade is quite frustrating. It seems so bizarre to type in "kick against the goads" and it yields results that aren't anything I'm looking for, which happens to be Acts 26:14, to pass along for witnessing purposes. Whats the trick in the current search field to yield meaningful information?

It may be best to create a new thread and explain your issue clearly. Screen shots might help too.

Not sure if you work for Logos

Faithlife employees have the green, faithlife logo under their avatar. The logo you see under Graham means that we are forum MVP's (volunteers) and are not employed by FL.

LukeWarmBoiling

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883690#Comment_883690

Hey alabama24, thanks for welcoming me:-) I'm a Gold Logos 7 user, and from how it was explained to me is the "new" search features of being like a "google search" is only available in Logos Now for its members. I am aware that it is a "membership program" perk, but that would include a new feature/product that the membership would benefit from. Obviously a "search" feature that could be typed similar to the way that you would search on Google, would greatly increase the information pulled from a sentence in a search query.

So with that said, being that the membership of $99/yr would gain access to this new feature, I was inquiring if it can be accessed from the iPad, which appears not to be the case now..

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883704#Comment_883704

and from how it was explained to me is the "new" search features of being like a "google search" is only available in Logos Now for its members

You may be thinking of fuzzy search - which is a Logos Now feature - and is explained at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/132569.aspx

Using it for your search above gives the results you are hoping for

But so does a regular Bible search on the iPad - note enclosing the terms in quotes - as below. This is not dependent on a Logos Now subscription at all

So there may be some other issue or we are not understanding what you are asking

As Alabama said it would be good to start a new thread and explain clearly what issue you are having including screenshots.

LukeWarmBoiling

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883706#Comment_883706

Thank you Graham, when posting in the thread, I used quotations ("kicking against the goads") which I did not use when initially searching on the desktop version. Sorry for the confusion. Maybe quite apparent but quotations is something I need to incorporate IF I can quote exactly as it appears in my NKJV (my preference) text, which sometimes isn't always the case. Besides quotations of exact scripture, is there any other tips on how to type in search field?

And yes, it's called Fuzzy search, thank you. Available on iPad version if I'm a Logos Now member that you know of?

Thanks in advance,

Jacob

Juanita

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/850377#Comment_850377

But this is only available for Logos Now subscribers

Graham,

FYI

I do not subscribe to Now and have the scrolling text comparison since I have Logos 7.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883711#Comment_883711

Maybe quite apparent but quotations is something I need to incorporate IF I can quote exactly as it appears in my NKJV (my preference) text

Yes, that is correct

Besides quotations of exact scripture, is there any other tips on how to type in search field?

Sometimes it is useful to use fewer search terms - so the string 'kick goads' translates to "kick" AND "goads" which gives this - this mechanism only works when on line

Similarly the string 'night OR light' will find verses why either (or both) words are present.

There are some others but these are probably the most useful to start with

Available on iPad version if I'm a Logos Now member that you know of?

I haven't seen any indication that Fuzzy Search is coming to the mobile apps - but Faithlife don't typically share plans of that nature until the features are ready for beta testing. Personally, I would be surprised if it happened.

LukeWarmBoiling

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883716#Comment_883716

Graham, your awesome bud! Truly helpful, and much appreciated!

Thank you,

Jacob

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883712#Comment_883712

Hi Juanita

FYI

I do not subscribe to Now and have the scrolling text comparison since I have Logos 7.

Yes - I was incorrect in my earlier statement. Thanks for picking it up

Kevin Byford gave the official statement in https://community.logos.com/forums/p/129639/842601.aspx#842601

Graham

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883718#Comment_883718

Graham, your awesome bud! Truly helpful, and much appreciated! Thank you, Jacob

You are very welcome.

Please feel free to post back with any further questions you may have - there is normally someone around to help.

Kevin Byford (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883711#Comment_883711

Hi Jacob,

Just to clarify, Logos 7 and/or Logos Now will not add any new features to the Mobile apps (except for scrolling Text Comparison). The Mobile apps are distinctly different than the Desktop Logos 7 apps and only support a small subset of Desktop features.

The mobile apps are intended as companions to Logos Desktop and not a replacement or mobile version of Logos 7.

LukeWarmBoiling

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/883722#Comment_883722

Thank you Kevin, makes sense, I have just been hopeful that the iPad version specifically would gain a few more features as the desktop, and more specifically Fuzzy Search. Would have paid for the Logos Now membership to have this only, if accessible to iPad Pro. Appreciate your your help.

Jacob