EEC Update

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  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    I bought the set upon its initial release and even though the release dates have changed, I've not regretted my purchase. 

    This is my feeling precisely.  

    I'm glad to see that we might expect more information in the future.  But it would be really excellent if they would hurry up on the book I'll be preaching next.  ;-)

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Nord Zootman
    Nord Zootman Member Posts: 596 ✭✭

    TCBlack said:

    I'm glad to see that we might expect more information in the future.  But it would be really excellent if they would hurry up on the book I'll be preaching next.  ;-)

    [:)][Y]

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,513

    TCBlack said:

    But it would be really excellent if they would hurry up on the book I'll be preaching next.  ;-)

    Assuming that it is the same one I will be teaching next [:P]

  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭

    I tossed the EEC into my cart and even though the page said 44 volumes it is listed in the cart as 43 volumes why the discrepancy?

    -dan 

  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭

    View of the cart.

    I tossed the EEC into my cart and even though the page said 44 volumes it is listed in the cart as 43 volumes why the discrepancy?

    -dan 

  • Jake Mailhot (Lexham)
    Jake Mailhot (Lexham) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 135

    I tossed the EEC into my cart and even though the page said 44 volumes it is listed in the cart as 43 volumes why the discrepancy?

    Dan,

    This is an artifact from when the James volume was removed from publication. When a replacement volume is produced, it will be automatically unlocked for any user who had purchased the 44-volume set or who had previously purchased the old volume.

  • Jack Caviness
    Jack Caviness MVP Posts: 13,513

    When a replacement volume is produced, it will be automatically unlocked for any user who had purchased the 44-volume set or who had previously purchased the old volume.

    So, we get to keep Varner and receive the new volume FREE? Super abundant thank-you's [<:o)] [Y] [:D]

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭

    Mattillo said:

    Will the Logos EEC page be the place to go for updates or is it better to go to the Lexham Press EEC page?

    Both pages will be updated.

    Mattillo said:

    any updates on the Jeremiah volume?

    No updates as far as I know. Derek may have more in his more detailed update he's working on.

    Jake sir... any updates on when the webpage might be updated or from Derek as to the Jeremiah and other volumes?

  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭

    Amos, Jonah, Micah has been postponed again to April. 

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭
  • Steve Farson
    Steve Farson Member Posts: 341

    We'll use a combination of these forums, the Lexham or Logos blog, and email to communicate these updates. We want to be more proactive in our communication about the EEC. Our current plan is to provide a regular quarterly update about the series, even if its a small update without any major news. 

    Jake, Is there a decent chance the eight volumes scheduled for a 2018 release will come "close" to a 2018 arrival? If so, picking up the whole set does entice, at least for me.

  • Jake Mailhot (Lexham)
    Jake Mailhot (Lexham) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 135

    Some EEC News: We have confirmed release date for Amos, Jonah, & Micah: May 18. We'll also have an interview with the author, JoAnna Hoyt, that will be posted to the Logos Talk blog soon.

    Thanks for your patience.

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭

    Thank you Jake! Any updates on Jeremiah, Daniel or from Brannon?

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Jake

    Some EEC News: We have confirmed release date for Amos, Jonah, & Micah: May 18. We'll also have an interview with the author, JoAnna Hoyt, that will be posted to the Logos Talk blog soon.

    Thanks for your patience.

  • Nord Zootman
    Nord Zootman Member Posts: 596 ✭✭

    Some EEC News: We have confirmed release date for Amos, Jonah, & Micah: May 18. We'll also have an interview with the author, JoAnna Hoyt, that will be posted to the Logos Talk blog soon.

    Thanks for your patience.

    Good news! Thanks.

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭

    From Brannon Ellis, Publisher of Lexham Press:

    Friends of the EEC,

    On behalf of Lexham Press and Faithlife, I’d like to thank all of you for your continued patronage of the Evangelical Exegetical Commentary series. When we set out to publish the EEC, as some of you will remember, Lexham didn’t yet exist as a publishing house, and our company was still named Logos Research Systems. Acquiring rights to the EEC was one of the earliest projects we took on, and has continued to be one of the biggest. Several years into this undertaking, I know a number of you are unsatisfied with what feels like the very slow pace of progress. I’ll be the first to say that none of us realized at the time just how aspirational it was for us to commit to a comprehensive technical commentary series covering the entire canon!

    Nevertheless, we remain just as enthusiastic about and committed to the EEC. In fact, as we’ve matured into the Lexham Press we are today, I believe we’re in a better position than we’ve ever been to pursue the vision of the EEC with excellence. Our published volumes, and the praise they’ve received from academics and pastors alike, speak for themselves. That doesn’t mean we won’t continue to have inevitable hiccups and unforeseen snags along the way; every major commentary series covering all of Scripture has had a similarly winding journey. But it does mean that we’ll continue to do our best to keep the fundamental promises we’ve made to you as EEC readers: to deliver thoroughly scholarly commentaries that don’t compromise on evangelical convictions, so that you can confidently use these volumes week in and week out in your sermon and teaching preparation and personal research and writing.

    As part of that commitment, we’re going to make a couple key changes to the way we communicate with you about developments with the series such as newly signed authors and upcoming publication news. First, we’re going to communicate with you more fully and more often. Otherwise, it can start to feel like nothing’s happening with the EEC when quite a lot is going on behind the scenes. Second, we’re going to stop providing tentative publication dates for upcoming volumes. There are simply too many variables beyond our control that can cause delays before a full draft manuscript comes in the door. For example, authors often experience writing delays and ask for submission extensions; since we’ve carefully chosen our authors (and commissioning a new volume would take even longer), we often have no choice but to grant the delay, offer all the editorial support we can, and trust that the author needing the extension is invested in delivering high-quality work. Instead, we’ll provide you with details on exactly where a particular volume is in the publishing process—whether the author is currently writing the manuscript, whether we’re currently editing it, and so on. That’ll be much more accurate and informative than merely estimating possible ship dates. Rest assured, we’ll continue to work as quickly as possible to release new volumes as we receive them from authors.

    Blessings,

    Brannon Ellis, PhD
    Publisher, Lexham Press

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    From Derek Brown, in-house Academic Editor over EEC:

    Dear EEC Friends,

    Many thanks for your readership and enthusiasm for the EEC series over the years. The editorial team at Lexham Press and the authors of the EEC series greatly appreciate you.

    As part of our desire to share more about the progress of forthcoming EEC volumes, I want to give you a behind the scenes update for a few volumes. But first it may be helpful to give you a brief overview of the major stages of production that each of the EEC volumes goes through before it is shipped off to you. The four major stages of production:

    1. In Writing: the author is researching and writing the commentary.
    2. General Editing: an initial draft of the manuscript has been completed and sent to the general editors of the EEC. During this stage the general editors work closely with the authors to provide substantive feedback to help improve the commentary.
    3. Manuscript Editing: after the general editors are satisfied with revisions from the author, the manuscript is handed off to the Lexham Press editorial team. They will clean up the manuscript and prepare it for publication.
    4. Printing: once editorial for a manuscript is complete, we send it off to be built as a Logos edition and/or to the printer for print publication.

    With this broad overview of our production workflow in mind, I’d like to tell you about a few volumes that we are very excited about. Right now our general editors are working hard on two Old Testament manuscripts: Joshua by Ralph Hawkins and Daniel by Paul Tanner. Both of these authors have labored diligently to complete their commentaries and our the EEC editorial team is excited for their work to be in your hands soon! A little closer to publication, JoAnna Hoyt’s commentary on Amos, Jonah, and Micah is just about to be sent off to the technological wizards who will turn the manuscript into a digitally-rich Logos resource for you all. JoAnna’s commentary is full of top-notch scholarship as well as rich theological insight, and I’m sure you’ll enjoy reading it as much as I have.

    I hope this update gives you greater insight and enthusiasm for the forthcoming EEC volumes. I look forward to providing another update soon.

    Blessings,

    Derek Brown, PhD
    Academic Editor, Lexham Press

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    I will be updating the EEC product page with the new status updates shortly. Derek is also working on a more detailed update that includes update on new authors for a few volumes.

    Please let me know if there are any other questions.

    Just curious if we have any updates from Brannon or Derek onn updates for the entire series.  Leviticus and Jeremiah were due to come out today/soon but obviously their dates have changed.  Any updates would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

  • Kevin A Lewis
    Kevin A Lewis Member Posts: 758

    Hi Faithlife

    Can we have some updates on the publication dates on the titles that are 'theoretically' published recently. i.e. yesterday or the day before.

    Regards Kevin

  • Kevin A Lewis
    Kevin A Lewis Member Posts: 758

    Thanks all for your questions about the EEC.

    We're working on a comprehensive update for the series, we should be able to share it soon.

    The EEC website was recently retired and now EvangelicalExegeticalCommentary.com redirects to a landing page on LexhamPress.com. This landing page will be much easier to maintain.

    'Easier' clearly doesn't mean it will be maintained - as we now have two past publication dates - with no titles delivered - and no revision to the publication dates.

    This applies to the Logos store page for the series and the Lexham Press page.

    Come on guys!

    Shalom

  • André Kamphuis
    André Kamphuis Member Posts: 230 ✭✭

    'Easier' clearly doesn't mean it will be maintained

    Right. Despite all the good intentions expressed by Jake and others on the team, we are still as much in the dark about the EEC as we have been in the past few years.

    I have decided to just lower my expectations and not get upset about Faithlife's ongoing struggle to seriously communicate with its customers who have paid upfront for an entire commentaries series that doesn't get delivered the way it was sold. It has been said enough, but it doesn't seem to make much difference in how they communicate... 

  • Nord Zootman
    Nord Zootman Member Posts: 596 ✭✭

    I have decided to just lower my expectations and not get upset about Faithlife's ongoing struggle to seriously communicate with its customers who have paid upfront for an entire commentaries series that doesn't get delivered the way it was sold. It has been said enough, but it doesn't seem to make much difference in how they communicate.

    [Y]

  • Jake Mailhot (Lexham)
    Jake Mailhot (Lexham) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 135

    Here's what I just received from Derek:

    • Jeremiah: In Writing
    • Leviticus: In Writing
    • Galatians: In Writing
    • Daniel: In Review with Series Editors
    • Joshua: In Review with Series Editors
    • Ecclesiastes: In Writing
    • 1 & 2 Chronicles: In Review with Series Editors 

    I'm not sure how far along the manuscripts are for those volumes still being written. For the volumes in review, the possibility of revisions could further delay them but they're closest to being published.

  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,871

    Here's what I just received from Derek:

    • Jeremiah: In Writing
    • Leviticus: In Writing
    • Galatians: In Writing
    • Daniel: In Review with Series Editors
    • Joshua: In Review with Series Editors
    • Ecclesiastes: In Writing
    • 1 & 2 Chronicles: In Review with Series Editors 

    I'm not sure how far along the manuscripts are for those volumes still being written. For the volumes in review, the possibility of revisions could further delay them but they're closest to being published.

    Thanks, Jake for the update. I would way rather have a delay and a higher quality outcome. I've loved what we have gotten so far with EEC

    Jacob Hantla
    Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
    gbcaz.org

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,143

    I would way rather have a delay and a higher quality outcome.

    I agree!

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  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭

    I would way rather have a delay and a higher quality outcome.

    I agree!

    Agreed.