Bug: Some HB101 units can't be expanded in the 7.5 SR-1 Courses tool

In this screenshot, Units 3, 7, 12, 14, 15 are missing the arrow to expand/collapse their unit.

In addition, all the segments (e.g. 15-19) of the unit appear together in the resource pane.

Logos Bible Software 7.5 SR-1 (7.5.0.0045) on macOS 10.12.4 (16E195).

It might be a problem with the update to the course last month, as spot checks of a few other courses within the tool all show arrows to expand their unit content.

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Kenneth Neighoff

I see the same thing in app.logos.com and on my laptop with Windows 10.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/896880#Comment_896880

The course might also be missing some resource links.

For example, in Unit 6, several segments don't appear to have any "See also" or "Suggested Reading" links to the BBH textbook or other material.

I don't have an earlier version of the course to compare this present one with, but the link counts in the Syllabus appear have dropped, at least when compared to the Resources Linked information.

Beginning Biblical Hebrew (BEGBIBLHEB),112,,,

Glossary of Morpho-Syntactic Database Terminology (MORPHGLOSSES),43,,,

The Syllabus also appears to show support information for an older version of the course.

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2017-01-13T01:39:28Z

I am guessing that the metadata that the Courses tool uses for the plan details is out of date compared to the actual resource itself.

Miles Custis

It looks like the problem with Unit 3 is coming from the resource. The unit title is accidentally pulling the video thumbnail link from the segment (which you can see in the resource itself). We'll get that update which should fix the course in the courses tool.

It looks like those segments in Unit 6 don't have any readings. I'm not sure why the courses tool is listing a different number of readings than the spreadsheet, but I'm guessing the number in the courses tool is incorrect. It lists only 97 links to the HB101 Activities resource, and there are actually 127 links (to match the number of segments).

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/897072#Comment_897072

It looks like the problem with Unit 3 is coming from the resource. The unit title is accidentally pulling the video thumbnail link from the segment (which you can see in the resource itself). We'll get that update which should fix the course in the courses tool.

Great, thanks!

It looks like those segments in Unit 6 don't have any readings.

That's... unexpected. We typically have to read the BBH textbook to review what Dr. Futato taught, and then do the corresponding textbook exercises to help us learn the material, once we get to the unit's Practice segment.

I am simply asking to make sure there's no issue with the course, since unexpected issues happen from time to time that need to be fixed. If there's no reading or exercise Dr. Futato intended us to do for those particular segments, I imagine there's a good reason.

Miles Custis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/897076#Comment_897076

It looks like Dr. Futato provides a brief overview of the main verb types in Unit 6. This section doesn't exactly correspond to a chapter of his book, so the final three segments of the unit don't have any readings (they still have Activities though). The first four segments from the unit still have reading links.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/897077#Comment_897077

Thanks, Miles, for taking the time to look into that. It's reassuring to know that everything else with the course is fine.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/897083#Comment_897083

I can't remember if this got fixed then broke again, or hasn't been fixed yet, but there are several HB101 units which can't be expanded in the Courses tool.

For example, selecting Unit 3 shows

Instead of seeing individual content for the segment's transcript, readings, and activity, the entire unit's segments, readings, and activities appear as one continuous block of content.

You can only "Continue" from Unit 3 to Unit 4, instead of on a more granular reading-per-reading basis.

On an unrelated note, can the unused space from the "removed" locator bars be fixed? It's doubly problematic when a video is also present, as the vertical split view creates two unused "locator bar" areas, one above the video, and one above the transcript.

Thanks very much!

7.7 SR-1 (7.7.0.0018)

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PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/911441#Comment_911441

I can't remember if this got fixed then broke again, or hasn't been fixed yet, but there are several HB101 units which can't be expanded in the Courses tool.

Apparently it was fixed in a course update, but I discovered that it required deleting the started plan, then starting a new plan, to make those affected HB101 units become expandable in the Courses tool again.

Is there any way to get a started course to automatically correct its "table of contents?" If not, is this something that can be improved?

It's really not intuitive that a started plan might not be "up to date," and require deletion. Ideally, it should just transparently work, so we can be confident that the current course we're taking always matches the most updated one from FL, without any intervention from us.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/911869#Comment_911869

Apparently it was fixed in a course update

I spoke too soon. There's still one section that can't be expanded in the restarted plan.

Thankful that I can progress in the meantime in the earlier units!

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/911888#Comment_911888

There's still one section that can't be expanded in the restarted plan.

Is there any fix in the pipeline for Unit 7? Thanks!

Miles Custis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912744#Comment_912744

Yes, I thought we got it fixed, but that one got missed. The problem is actually in the resource, so we'll get that fixed and updated. Sorry about that.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912758#Comment_912758

No problem. Thank you!

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912777#Comment_912777

After receiving the update for HB101, I deleted my started plan, and restarted the course.

There appears to still be something wrong with Unit 7. It can't be expanded, and all its segments appear as a single lesson.

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2017-07-18T15:44:02Z

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/914269#Comment_914269

A gentle reminder that this is still broken.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/915586#Comment_915586

Unit 7 still needs to be fixed, please. Thanks!

Miles Custis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/918329#Comment_918329

This appears to be working correctly now to me.

PetahChristian

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/918410#Comment_918410

I had previously deleted the plan on July 24th after that update, but Unit 7 couldn't expand.

I deleted the plan again today, and now Unit 7 can be expanded. Not sure what changed in the meantime since the course itself hadn't been updated -- some Courses tool fix? -- but Unit 7 is expandable now.

Thank you, Miles, for letting me know it had been working.