Bug: Need better text selection for RTL text

PetahChristian
PetahChristian Member Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

If I try to highlight the last (selected) word

the highlighting is only applied to part of the word (where the sheva seems to have been selected but its consonant has not).

Text selection is set to "Word."

7.7 SR-1 (7.7.0.0018) on macOS 10.12.5 (16F73)

Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

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  • PetahChristian
    PetahChristian Member Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭

    Other examples of highlighting not lining up with the selected word:

    • Highlighting can't get applied to the start of a word at the start of a sentence.

    • Highlighting affects some other part of the sentence when trying to highlight the word at the end of the line

    Obviously, this is also problematic for notes, as the note ends up with a partial word and some unrelated text, instead of the selected word.

    Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

  • PetahChristian
    PetahChristian Member Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭

    Is there an open case for this? If so, would you please attach this thread to it? If not, would you open a case please?

    Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

  • Alan Palmer (Logos)
    Alan Palmer (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,090

    Thanks for reporting this issue. It does look concerning.

    Can you open the resource information panel and provide the support information listed there?

  • PetahChristian
    PetahChristian Member Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭

    Sure! Sorry it wasn't included in my initial report.

    The original post occurs in Lesson 3, Practice, part G.

    LLS:46.20.17
    2009-10-27T03:15:50Z
    BEGBIBLHEB.logos4

    Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

  • Philana R. Crouch
    Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597

    If I try to highlight the last (selected) word

    the highlighting is only applied to part of the word (where the sheva seems to have been selected but its consonant has not).

    Text selection is set to "Word."

    7.7 SR-1 (7.7.0.0018) on macOS 10.12.5 (16F73)

    PetahChristian,

    I'm not able to reproduce the partial application of highlights. Can you let me know if you have any text or program scaling turned on? 

  • PetahChristian
    PetahChristian Member Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭

    I'm not able to reproduce the partial application of highlights. Can you let me know if you have any text or program scaling turned on?

    Content scaling and program scaling are both at 100%.

    I don't think the selection/highlighting behaves consistently. If I erase the highlight then reselect it and highlight it again, I mostly get a missing first letter, and the note looks like this:

    Continuing to repeat that, it occasionally actually highlights the whole word (which completely appears in the note), but the screen selection spontaneously switches to something slightly different right after the highlight was applied.

    As far as I can tell, the selection looks identical in either case before highlighting (and I am selecting by dragging from the left/end of the word, toward the right/beginning of the word).

    The "missing first letter" effect even appears during selection on the entire verse. Again with "Word" text selection, the selection doesn't seem to include the very first letter.

    And if I turn that selection into a note, the first consonant is left off, but the sheva isn't.

    I just think something specific about BBH is problematic. If you look at this (arbitrary) selection of part of sentence 1, sentence 2, and part of sentence 3, it not only still misses the first letter of sentence 2, it selects something invisible (whitespace?) right before the last word in sentence 2.

    Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

  • Dave Hooton
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  • PetahChristian
    PetahChristian Member Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭

    So, does this happen in Hebrew bibles?

    No selection/highlighting issues in Hebrew bibles with text selection or highlighting. I haven't run into issues in Hebrew lexicons either.

    Since BBH is referred to frequently by HB101, I tend to make lots of notes in it, with mixed success.

    I assume there's something specific about the its Unicode and/or formatting that's tripping up the selection/highlighting for that resource.

    Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

  • Philana R. Crouch
    Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597

    I've been unable to reproduce the highlighting issue, I did create a case for issues with selecting the text.

  • PetahChristian
    PetahChristian Member Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭

    Thanks, Philana! Who knows, maybe resolving the text selection will fix the highlighting.

    It is interesting that when the whole word did intermittently get highlighted, the selection spontaneously shifted to include the space before the word.

    My "workaround" has been to select that space too to ensure that the whole word gets highlighted. An extra space in the note is better than a missing letter!

    (Unfortunately, that "workaround" doesn't work at the beginning of a line, because there's nothing before the first word to select.)

    Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

  • Philana R. Crouch
    Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597

    If I try to highlight the last (selected) word

    the highlighting is only applied to part of the word (where the sheva seems to have been selected but its consonant has not).

    Text selection is set to "Word."

    7.7 SR-1 (7.7.0.0018) on macOS 10.12.5 (16F73)

    PetahChristian,

    I wanted to follow up with you. The issue with where your notes are attaching might due to a bad index. Can you run a reindex command for just that resource and see if that solves things?

  • Philana R. Crouch
    Philana R. Crouch Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,597

    If I try to highlight the last (selected) word

    the highlighting is only applied to part of the word (where the sheva seems to have been selected but its consonant has not).

    Text selection is set to "Word."

    7.7 SR-1 (7.7.0.0018) on macOS 10.12.5 (16F73)

    PetahChristian,

    I wanted to follow up with you. The issue with where your notes are attaching might due to a bad index. Can you run a reindex command for just that resource and see if that solves things?

  • PetahChristian
    PetahChristian Member Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭

    I wanted to follow up with you. The issue with where your notes are attaching might due to a bad index. Can you run a reindex command for just that resource and see if that solves things?

    I ran a reindex LLS:46.20.17 and that fixed the problem! I have been able to properly re-highlight each of the previously problematic words.

    Thanks very much for following up on this!

    Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!