search vocalised Hebrew

Michel Pauw

Is it possible to search for example for וַיֹּאמַר and exclude וַיֹּאמֶר?

Dave Hooton

I'm not certain exactly what you want or what Hebrew bible, but:

• Hebrew searches are not sensitive to marks by default, so each word gives the same result.
• Andersen Forbes Hebrew (AFAT) is the only bible to match marks on the first word (123) i.e. [match marks] וַיֹּאמַר
• The second word has mark matches in several bibles (6) but AFAT has 1950 i.e. [match marks] וַיֹּאמֶר
• If you match marks on the first word you automatically exclude the second (only in AFAT)
• If you want non-sensitive matches excluding the second word (mark sensitive) then use וַיֹּאמַר NOTEQUALS [match marks] וַיֹּאמֶר
• There are other matching commands that may be useful.

Does this help?

Michel Pauw

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912667#Comment_912667

Dave, this is great. I keep being marveled at the easy you find so many solutions in Logos as if you've written the software and search logic yourself.

[:D]

Michel Pauw

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912816#Comment_912816

Do you also happen to know whether Logos can search for vowel patterns? In other words search for vowels by leaving out the consonants?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912819#Comment_912819

Michel Pauw said:

In other words search for vowels by leaving out the consonants?

I don't know Hebrew, so I'll provide an examples for English:

?a?e   ---> one letter followed by vowel 'a' followed by one letter and then the vowel 'e' e.g. face, have, came, make

?a??e ---> as above but with two letters between 'a' and 'e' e.g. table, false, large

There is no guarantee that the wildcard letter ? will always be a consonant, though. Regular Expressions are needed for complex patterns.

I can't guarantee it will work for Hebrew.

Michel Pauw

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912848#Comment_912848

So, in Hebrew all the big letters are consonants, while most of the dots and lines around those consonants are vowels. In Logos you can search for the consonants of a word and it will give you the vowels with it. I would like to do the opposite: search for the vowels (the marks) and Logos will give me the consonants with it.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912981#Comment_912981

Michel Pauw said:

I would like to do the opposite: search for the vowels (the marks) and Logos will give me the consonants with it.

There's a UserVoice suggestion for this feature request: https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7/suggestions/7592991-search-for-hebrew-vowel-points-cantillation-marks 

Michel Pauw

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/912992#Comment_912992

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) said:

There's a UserVoice suggestion for this feature request: https://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-7/suggestions/7592991-search-for-hebrew-vowel-points-cantillation-marks 

Thanks for pointing this out!