New Mobile Survey -- BlackBerry and Android users, speak out!
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How about now that Blackberry is offering the Playbook?
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I have the droid incredible and lovr it. I also purchased Logos 4 for my pc. Now if I only had the best of both worlds. Please Bro. Pritchett come through for Android users!
Because He lives
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Michael Winters said:
Granted, droid is growing in popularity, but there are many more Blackberry users out there. They are just quieter.... Usually...
Blackberry phones have such small screens to be useful for "real" bible study. I currently own a Blackberry 8900 - its hard for me to even use Google. I personally would not want Logos on my phone...it wouldn't get used.
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Mark E. Ryman said:
I have a DroidX : [1] car charger or any replacement does not work
There are units that will plug into the DC power port [cig lighter] and give you AC power in your car - then plug your home recharger into it
[and study your bible when the DroidX version is ready while some one else drives]
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When I buy an ebook on Amazon I can read it on any platform. When I buy a book from you, I can only read it on my desktop (not good for reading). I will not add any more books to my Logos until I have an Android app.
Also, Amazon makes it's reader programs available free (you are already paying for the books).
My suggestion is that you make a basic reader app for all platforms (including Kindle 3 using their new API), and make it available free (this will encourage people to add books to their Logos library instead of buying them on Amazon) . Then you can develop fancy search and reference programs with fancy features for the most popular platforms and charge something for those.
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Being able to read logos books on my android and my kindle would definitely make me buy more books from logos. You are right about the Amazon books. I can read them on either laptop, the kindle, or the android phone. Great idea. Just a simple reader that we can download books to.
Thanks
Windows PC - Android Phone - Surface Pro 4
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I strongly recommend Logos to consider extending the App to Android plaftorm. I'm currently using it in iPad and it's awesome. Pls. help extending this to my Samsung Galaxy S with Android OS 2.2 to be upgraded.
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I strongly recommend Logos to consider extending the App to Android plaftorm. I'm currently using it in iPad and it's awesome. Pls. help extending this to my Samsung Galaxy S with Android OS 2.2 to be upgraded.
Jonathan
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I can't agree more that we need Android app that works as good as the ipod touch app. I have the droid x and would love the ability to read books from it. Please help us any way you can to make our lives as efficient as possible.
Jeff
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I have been waiting patiently for an Android Logos and suffering through other software which works but doesn't give me access to the resources I want. The browser portal is OK, but does not offer the flexibility you need for effectively using the Logos software. My Droid X is waiting and extremely lonely for that Logos Android App!
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People, I know everyone is talking about Android and Black Berry devices, but.....there is a bunch of new users out side there, and they are growingand Im one of them, and we need LOGOS, PLEEEEASEE. REMEMBER WINDOWS PHONE 7
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I 110% agree.
Windows Pone 7 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE !!!
The sooner the better!
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I agree 1000% -- forget the Black Berry and the Windows phone, the actual leaders are iphone and now the superior phone called DRRROIDDDDDD....LOL...sorry BB and Windows, but it's true. There's no point to have apps for every single phone but the only top 2 best out there in the market...maybe, maybe a top 3, but that can be up for grabs for any other phone, not necessarily the BB or Windows. Anyway, may the best 3rd best win.[:P]
Giovanni
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Has anyone heard a timetable for Android app?
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I'd like to know that as well. I'm looking to buy a tablet ro some sort (either Android or iPad, etc.) to replace my laptop and would love to be able to have access to Logos.
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Thomas L. Bohnert said:
Has anyone heard a timetable for Android app?
Hey Thomas, welcome to the forums.
No, Logos has been tight lipped about any timetable. last month the VP of Marketing tweeted "Logos for Android this week! Can't wait to ship this thing!" that's the last I've heard of it
Prov. 15:23
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I just got the Motorola Xoom and love it!! I am using library.logos.com and have access to about 70% of my full library. And of course I have to be online to read it. I can't wait for the Logos Android App to be released. I check every day, to no avail. AND I hope they can do something to ensure I have 100% of my books available, rather than only 70%. I have purchased the book, I should be able to download it - it shouldn't matter if its to a PC or a tablet.
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I can hardly wait for the new Android app. what a bonus to those of us that have Logos libraries!!!
I have over 2000 dollars of Android phones that can hardly wait to get the Android app for Logos, give us some kind of hint about when we can expect it!!!
I have been checking the site daily looking for any new information, please throw us a crumb.
In Christ,
Jim
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Wyn: Love to know what you think of the Xoom. I am considering the iPad 2 or the Xoom this spring/summer. I really want to be able to see how useful it will be for Logos Bible study.
Thanks!
JJ
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I believe the reason we cannot see 100% of our books on library.logos.com is that certain publishers do not allow it. It is my understanding that Logos would like for us to have 100% of our books accessible, but certain publishers have not yet given their permission to do so. Hopefully, it won't be long before we have access to 100% of our books.
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Hurry, Hurry, Hurry, Hurry, Please, please please please.....[:D][:P][:'(]
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Oh, I forgot to say Android Android Android Android Android Android Android Android Android Android Android [:D][:'(][:^)][:)]
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I am trying to understand the business model in place.
Android now controls over half the smartphone market, Apple a little less than 30%. Android is growing quickly in the tablet market as well, and with 3.0 coming out - has a robust OS. It is not proprietary as Apple is, and yet, a year after the survey is released - and with all the promises of an app, we still don't have one, nor even a hoped for timeline.
Yet we see you revising the iOS release again.
Do you not listen to your customers?
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Well I'm sure they will come up with an android app any day now. How do I know? I finally gave up waiting for one for my droid phone as I have been waiting for well over a year now and nothing. I was also hoping to be able to read my logos library on my kindle, no dice (and please don't mention the online reading, that is not a viable option). So instead of buying the android tablet I wanted, the moto xoom, I bought an ipad2. Now I will finally be able to read my logos library on the go, and I am also certain that logos will come out with an android app soon! One thing is for sure, in the gadget world, nothing stays the same.
Windows PC - Android Phone - Surface Pro 4
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Rev. Dustin T Parker said:
Yet we see you revising the iOS release again.
Do you not listen to your customers?
Of course they do. :-) Here is how it fits in.
- Android is under active development, the CEO has even seen books on screen on the device. The lead programmer tweeted recently that things are moving along nicely.
- Ipod/ipad was already developed earlier for what I'm certain are good reasons.
- Concurrently the whole backend is being rewritten for the Logos display via web - as I understand it (I may be wrong though) the backend is responsible for biblia.com, library.logos.com and ipad/ipod; as well as future android implementation.
- Once the backend is completed, the frontend if ipad/ipod and android will also be completed and made available.
This is my understanding as a result of scraping through the forums for way too long. :-) But it's coming precisely because they listen to their customers. Which is ironically exactly what this thread started as - a plea for customer input.
Even though I'm certainly one of those highly anticipating android implementation (before I buy my android device) - I'm aware of at least some of the difficulties in developing an app of this nature which has to deal with security, display, sync, and so much more.
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Rev. Dustin T Parker said:
I am trying to understand the business model in place.
Android now controls over half the smartphone market, Apple a little less than 30%. Android is growing quickly in the tablet market as well, and with 3.0 coming out - has a robust OS. It is not proprietary as Apple is, and yet, a year after the survey is released - and with all the promises of an app, we still don't have one, nor even a hoped for timeline.
Yet we see you revising the iOS release again.
Do you not listen to your customers?
As a Logos user, Thankful Logos listens to their customers; about 5 months ago, Logos announced Android development plans. Bob Pritchett posted Android update yesterday => Re: Android/Xoom Support. Anticipating Logos announcement about Android application(s) being a few days prior to a stable version being shipped; essentially when release candidate(s) for various Android platform(s) show stable usability. Likewise anticipate future updates to Android Application(s) being similar to progress happening in iOS application, good reason to smile
Do remember Logos promising a date for initial Libronix application port to Mac, then missing that promised date by months. Also remember seeing a tantalizing screen shot of Logos Mac application in progress that was followed by many months before public availability. Now Logos does not promise a public release date that cannot be met; however "coming soon" has an unknown amount of time (ranging from days to years).
On pro Android web site, able to find sales projection for 45 % of smart phone market by 2016. Looking at recent ComScore Analysis, Android grew to 33.0 % of U.S. smart phone market while RIM shrunk to 28.9 % and Apple grew a bit to 25.2 %
Android observation: smart phone sales provide good business case for Logos application on Android smart phones. However, business case is currently lacking for Logos tablet application on Android. Business Insider noted on 31 Mar that 50 Android applications were ready for tablet use (quite different than the 65,000 applications ready for iPad use). Android tablet sales lag far behind iPad (along with similar size tablets costing more).
Future of Android appears intriguing: "Google Tightens Its Grip On Android, Infuriating Partners" and "Do not anger the Alpha Android"
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Android now controls over half the smartphone market, Apple a little less than 30%. Android is growing quickly in the tablet market as well, and with 3.0 coming out - has a robust OS. It is not proprietary as Apple is, and yet, a year after the survey is released - and with all the promises of an app, we still don't have one, nor even a hoped for timeline.
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Thanks, Dustin. I can understand your frustration.
I think we should also consider that Android was NOT the preeminent Mobile OS until just this last year. Yes, it was growing rapidly, and perhaps Logos didn't put together enough resources for Android development early enough for you and I. And now, we know for certain it is under development ... so that is good. However, 2 years ago, the mobile OS market was a lot murkier. Who would win? Who would fail? What Mobile OS's were being used by actual Logos users? It is only natural that a for profit business enterprise doesn't want to invest a whole lot of money (on a an that is going to be basically free) if there is no payback in customer satisfaction and the possibility of increasing the customer base.
Two plus years ago they had to determine whether that mobile OS would be Blackberry, Android, Symbian, WebOS (Palm...which has almost died, but now HP is pumping new life into it...on a gamble that this great Mobile OS can establish a base), Windows 5/6 (good as dead, but which now is a new animal...and WinMo7 is useful... but perhaps too little, too late?), or would Apple continue to grow their huge lead (at the time) with iOS? All these things were up in the air at the time and it is so hard to KNOW the future!
So, since every company has limited funds, they took surveys, they watched the market, and when they thought it made good sense for them as a company, they took the plunge with Android as their next mobile OS. Could they have been faster? Hard to say, unless we were on the inside of the company seeing where resources were allocated and why. So, I am just happy that they decided to put precious resources toward a fantastic Mobile OS in Android. I do agree with one thing that I think would help Logos to better serve their customer base: They should be a little more open about their schedules, desires, and timelines. I am sure that Logos doesn't want to "commit" to a promising a product that may be found unfeasible and later scrapped. But they can make various announcements about their intentions, making note that future things may change this.
Many Logos users will make their Mobile platform buying decisions based on whether or not Logos would integrate well with their mobile (or tablet) choice. For instance, I wouldn't currently consider a WinMo7 device or a Palm/HP device or phone simply because I have no guarantee that those devices will be viable and useful for accessing my library through Logos. Now, those devices may be stellar, but it won't be useful for me unless I can get better resource access via Logos. Therefore, knowing a better timeframe for mobile/tablet OS support is important for users.
JJ
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Just want to say "I second these opinions"
Evangelest Dennis Caldwell
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I agree with all the above.....
Evangelist Dennis Caldwell
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I am sick and tired of Logos, they announce that they want to give me a free gift so that I can run my 3-4,000 dollars worth of books on my android phones and now they want me to Patiently wait for them to finish it up. This is outrageous!!! How inconsiderate of them, I guess they don't care about me! I wonder if they will pay me the money back that I am losing because I can't use their free app. I wonder if there a 30 day free exchange on free apps??? What would Jesus do?
Seriously, I would lke to know how soon the new app will be out, I already went and got phones around Christmas time, but the truth is, what a great new service that Logos is giving to us, this will increase the usefulness of my library and I would have never expected Logos to be branching out like this and offering us a free app to access our libraries in new ways!
So, let me know when it is ready or I want a free refund! In fact, I want a double my money refund on my free app.
In Christ,
Jim VanSchoonhoven
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Market share is one thing, and while BB does not hold the lead, it's users aren't shy about spending money for quality applications either, which a Logos app would have to be if it was to be worth using. The BB PlayBook, while never designed to 'grab market share' is being well received, and it's size makes it an ideal reader as well, plus it is getting Android app support in an upcoming OS update according to RIM sources. Personally, I find that the BlackBerry offers what I'm looking for in a secure platform that integrates with the tablet. Of course it's all about what works for each of us.
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LOGOS - ANY NEWS?
(having just got the viewsonic gtablet which is far more serious a unit than the Ipad2....)
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I would be interested in hearing evaluations of running the new Logos Android App on the Blackberry Playbook. I'm not sure how well it would work but I like the idea of having my Blackberry fully work with Logos through the Playbook. I really don't have the option to switch phone providers since mine is closely linked to work. What are the advantages/disadvantages.
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Bob,
I did buy the iPhone expressly to be able to use the Logog moblile app, but I thought I would be able to sync it to my PC version. You know, Library collections etc...
Steve
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Steve Luypen said:
Bob,
I did buy the iPhone expressly to be able to use the Logog moblile app, but I thought I would be able to sync it to my PC version. You know, Library collections etc...
Steve
Welcome [:D]
Option: could post mobile sync wish list suggestion in iPhone/iPad forum that includes thread => Notes on iPad?
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