The word Catholic - searching greek words?
I was having a discussion with a Muslim from my neighborhood, and he was suggesting that the word only came into use after the Reformation. He jumps around and does not seem to really address the truth, but anyhow, I am making a note in Logos so if I speak to him again I will be prepared.
Going by the wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_(term)
"The word catholic (with lowercase c; derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal"[1][2])
comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (katholou), meaning "on the whole", "according to the whole" or "in general", and is a combination of the Greek words κατά meaning "about" and ὅλος meaning "whole".[3][4]
The term Catholic (usually written with uppercase C in English) was first used to describe the Christian Church in the early 2nd century to emphasize its universal scope. In the context of Christian ecclesiology, it has a rich history and several usages."
I must be searching wrong, I'm trying to search "καθολικός", but nothing really comes up.
Can anyone link to be youtube or other resource to help me prepare my note?
I am still very new to Logos, but I love it. I have the silver base package and if there are other resources that anyone would recommend, within reason of my budget, I would love to hear it.
God bless and thank you for reading.
-From Shawn
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Hi Shawn - and welcome to the forums
Shawn Vachon said:I must be searching wrong, I'm trying to search "καθολικός", but nothing really comes up.
You could try searching for "katholikos" as many resources that define this will use transliterated (not Greek alphabet) terms.
If you want to search for the actual Greek term it should work - with the results depending on what resources you have
But I would suggest starting with the Factbook entry and see what the dictionaries that returns show you
Hope this helps, Graham
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Thank you Graham!
That is perfect. I will not be spending much time on this now. I will not let someone else dictate my study. But it is a good way to dive in and learn the tools
God bless,From Shawn
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Shawn, adding to Graham, your Wiki article is likely talking about the Martyrdom of Polycarp 16, and or Ignatius Smyn. 8. The latter however is argued as an anachronism. And even the Martyrdom has conflicting varients. So, it's a tossup.
The best discussion, if you have Lightfoot on Ignatius, see Chap 6.2.vi. Which you don't likely have, but anyone else might, to copy for you (mine offline).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I think the issue was I had my notes open, and it only searched my documents.
But everything is great now, I am showing many resources now searching like you recommended!
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Thank you, Denise,
If I search for the product "Lightfoot on Ignatius"
I see many books including Ignatius, but I do not see that book.
I do see three books:The Apostolic Fathers, part 2, vol 1: St. Ignatius, St. Polycarp
I will keep researching though, and keep learning.Thank you for your support and sharing!
God bless,-From Shawn
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"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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No need to be sorry! This is a part of the learning experience for me. You not only pointed me to information that I needed, you gave me insight into things I need to study more.
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Shawn Vachon said:
"The word catholic (with lowercase c; derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal"[1][2])
Can search Logos (OR Verbum) for transliterated form OR lemma's => https://ref.ly/logos4/Search?kind=BasicSearch&q=Catholicus+OR+%3CLemma+%3d+lbs%2fla%2fcatholicus%3E+OR+katholikos+OR+%3CLemma+%3d+lbs%2fel%2f%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%B8%CE%BF%CE%BB%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82%3E+OR+%CE%9A%CE%B1%CE%B8%CE%BF%CE%BB%CE%B9%CE%BA%E1%BD%B8%CF%82&match=stem&in=raw:All%7CTitle%3dAll%2520Resources
Catholicus OR <Lemma = lbs/la/catholicus> OR katholikos OR <Lemma = lbs/el/καθολικός> OR Καθολικὸς
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