Exalting Jesus Series
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If certain books don't make it into Logos. Please allow them to be purchased on Vyrso/Faithlife Ebooks. I would take second rate over nothing. Thank you.
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pk47 said:
If certain books don't make it into Logos. Please allow them to be purchased on Vyrso/Faithlife Ebooks. I would take second rate over nothing. Thank you.
Nicely put!
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Tom said:
I will take sub par any day, if the only other option is Amazon
Please bring them back! I agree with Tom [Y]
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Tom said:
I will take sub par any day, if the only other option is Amazon
Please bring them back! But that's the problem isn't it? There are lots of other options - this series is available with Wordsearch, Accordance and Olive Tree in addition to Amazon, which leaves Logos as the only major Bible software publisher not carrying them.
Frankly if Logos can only offer them sub par, I'd rather spend my money with someone who can do the job properly, especially if there is little difference in the price. I have enough sub par Vyrso titles as it is
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Keith Pang said:
Bring them back please! What is the point of getting rid of it?
Keith, we've had lots of complaints in the past when commentaries have accidentally slipped through to Vyrso where don't have the functionality necessary to make them (1) show up in the commentaries guide section, (2) be navigable by Bible reference, (3) be able to join a link set with a Bible, etc. It's a very subpar experience. But if you all would like to have access to the content, knowing those drawbacks, it seems like we could revisit this and instead just put a callout on the page that lets people know these resources won't function like commentaries. Ben and I will discuss it again.
So why can you not produce them as proper Logos editions Phil? None of your rivals seem to have a problem producing what I assume is a "working" product as far as I am aware
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David Carter said:
But that's the problem isn't it? There are lots of other options - this series is available with Wordsearch, Accordance and Olive Tree in addition to Amazon, which leaves Logos as the only major Bible software publisher not carrying them.
David, yes there are other others that offer them [:)].
But I will still prefer to have it in Vyrso (Faithlife EBooks) just to keep everything in the same program. [:D]
http://hombrereformado.blogspot.com/ Solo a Dios la Gloria Apoyo
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David Carter said:Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:Keith Pang said:
Bring them back please! What is the point of getting rid of it?
Keith, we've had lots of complaints in the past when commentaries have accidentally slipped through to Vyrso where don't have the functionality necessary to make them (1) show up in the commentaries guide section, (2) be navigable by Bible reference, (3) be able to join a link set with a Bible, etc. It's a very subpar experience. But if you all would like to have access to the content, knowing those drawbacks, it seems like we could revisit this and instead just put a callout on the page that lets people know these resources won't function like commentaries. Ben and I will discuss it again.
So why can you not produce them as proper Logos editions Phil? None of your rivals seem to have a problem producing what I assume is a "working" product as far as I am aware
In my experience the Exalting Jesus books within Vyrso are very good as eBooks. Yes they may not have the functionality of Logos, but neither do the other digital providers for Exalting Jesus.
Ironically the most subpar experience I've had with "Vyrso" is with a novel I bought recently as the digitisation failed to show where one scene switched to another within chapters, which is clearly shown in the print version. The Exalting Jesus books though have clear section breaks, headings, use of italics (where in the original) etc.
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David Carter said:
So why can you not produce them as proper Logos editions Phil?
Generally speaking, FL has two different kinds of agreements with publishers. The licensing agreements for Logos editions are very different than those for Vyrso editions. Some publisher's don't want their resources in Logos (value added) but are fine with the agreements of an eBook (Vyrso/Faithlife eBook).
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Phil: This is a suggestion..first the disclamer...I realize that what I suggest may not be practical. But if you still have "doubts" about the product in Vyrso/Ebook format...Then work something out with B&H and put all volumes on sale as a collection (hopefully a good discount) and include dynamic pricing. That way we can complete the set. Of course, if there are move volumes to be added in the future then this may not work.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
It's a very subpar experience. But if you all would like to have access to the content, knowing those drawbacks, it seems like we could revisit this and instead just put a callout on the page that lets people know these resources won't function like commentaries. Ben and I will discuss it again.
i have been challenging FL ever since they opened the Vyrso store for honesty and transperancy in the limitations of the format but Bob Pritchett refused to accept there was even a problem. Interesting to note someone from FL now acknowledge their is a problem. This sort of transparency in the limitations of FL eBooks should have occurred years ago rather than now being considered as an option as a workaround due to a blowup over one set of resources being removed from sale.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
we've had lots of complaints in the past when commentaries have accidentally slipped through to Vyrso where don't have the functionality necessary to make them (1) show up in the commentaries guide section, (2) be navigable by Bible reference, (3) be able to join a link set with a Bible, etc. It's a very subpar experience.
Hmm, 'very subpar' - Well, here's a thought then - why not make them 'real' Logos books? !!!!
However, if you are unable/unwilling to negotiate the contract with the publishers, I agree with others on this thread, sub-par performance is better than no performance.
For reference, I currently own 24 books in the series!
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Hi all,
I've just reenabled purchase of these books on Faithlife Ebooks (formerly Vyrso).
I may have overlooked one, so if I did, don't hesitate to mention it.
Thanks!
Product Manager, Faithlife
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Thanks!
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I don't see the Galatians volume
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Thanks, Daniel!
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Thanks!!!!!!
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Hi all,
I've just reenabled purchase of these books on Faithlife Ebooks (formerly Vyrso).
I may have overlooked one, so if I did, don't hesitate to mention it.
Thanks!
Daniel, Ben, Phil
Thanks so much for listening to the feedback. It's much appreciated. This is a great series. It's the Matthew volume that's missing. This was the last volume to be made available on Vyrso. I hope future planned volumes will continue to be added. Thanks again.
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Hi all,
I've just reenabled purchase of these books on Faithlife Ebooks (formerly Vyrso).
I may have overlooked one, so if I did, don't hesitate to mention it.
Thanks!
http://hombrereformado.blogspot.com/ Solo a Dios la Gloria Apoyo
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Hi all,
I've just reenabled purchase of these books on Faithlife Ebooks (formerly Vyrso).
I may have overlooked one, so if I did, don't hesitate to mention it.
Thanks!
I only own 15 volumes at this point. Of the 15 I have, you only have 14 on the FL EB site. You are missing the volume on Galatians so that will also need to be activated when you have time.
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Mattillo said:
Hi all,
I've just reenabled purchase of these books on Faithlife Ebooks (formerly Vyrso).
I may have overlooked one, so if I did, don't hesitate to mention it.
Thanks!
I only own 15 volumes at this point. Of the 15 I have, you only have 14 on the FL EB site. You are missing the volume on Galatians so that will also need to be activated when you have time.
My mistake, Galatians missing not Matthew.
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Paul Caneparo said:
My mistake, Galatians missing not Matthew.
Is that what you meant to say Paul? When quoting someone, you need to make sure your reply is outside of the "[ /quote]"
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JT (alabama24) said:Paul Caneparo said:
My mistake, Galatians missing not Matthew.
Is that what you meant to say Paul? When quoting someone, you need to make sure your reply is outside of the "[ /quote]"
JT
Thanks. I know what to do, but did it wrong.
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I see that Exalting Jesus in Mark has a nice table of contents at the beginning but the links are broken. For example it has links like this, which when clicked try to open in the web browser: text/CCEC_Mark_37.xhtml. The table of contents still works so Logos should probably delete the toc in the document text.
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