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One thing to be aware of: if you activate adoptable storage on the Mars, firmware updates will NOT install. I've tried. You have to load it all back to internal storage to install updates.
No!! Just download the update to memory, and install manually. (Seems like you have wasted massive effort for nothing…)
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One thing to be aware of: if you activate adoptable storage on the Mars, firmware updates will NOT install. I've tried. You have to load it all back to internal storage to install updates.
No!! Just download the update to memory, and install manually. (Seems like you have wasted massive effort for nothing…)
I let the update download and install by the usual process - more than once - and the installation failed every time. I’ll try manually and experiment next time. If it works, you will have saved me a lot of effort!
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Can you elaborate on how you are able to set up the reading by swipe? I can navigate to accessibility options and assume I go to voice over, but I got lost at that point.
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Has anyone used Microsoft Word with Logos on the Likebook Mars? Copy, paste, edit, etc.?
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This has been a fun (and probably costly) form to read.
It sounds like everyone is leaning towards the Mars over the Nova. A couple of questions, is it possible to highlight books in the Logos app with the Mars? It doesn’t look like it has a stylus that comes with it. Does it work with a stylus?
For reference, I’m looking at this device: https://www.amazon.com/Likebook-Mars-Reader-Processor，Adjustable-Audible/dp/B07KM2BDPP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544898113&sr=8-1&keywords=likebook+mars+ereader
Thanks!
Chris
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This has been a fun (and probably costly) form to read.
It sounds like everyone is leaning towards the Mars over the Nova. A couple of questions, is it possible to highlight books in the Logos app with the Mars? It doesn’t look like it has a stylus that comes with it. Does it work with a stylus?
For reference, I’m looking at this device: https://www.amazon.com/Likebook-Mars-Reader-Processor，Adjustable-Audible/dp/B07KM2BDPP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544898113&sr=8-1&keywords=likebook+mars+ereader
Thanks!
Chris
I haven't tried highlighting in Logos, but it works fine in other apps like Moon Reader using my finger.
Onyx is supposed to come out with a second Nova version that includes a stylus. Unfortunately, it won't have a frontlight.
Having a little extra money is dangerous for me! I bought the Nova, and now I'm trying to decide which one I'll keep. The Nova's performance is a little better than that of the Mars, and I like the light a little better. On the other hand, the Nova has no microSD card slot, and Play Store is a little more glitchy with the Nova. I'll sell whichever one I decide not to keep... but no final decision yet!
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Any chance you could post a screen shot of a Logos interlinear on the Mars?
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No idea how to take screenshots without the required buttons, but I took a photo.
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That’s perfect thank you!0
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I’ll try manually and experiment next time. If it works, you will have saved me a lot of effort!
Any luck with this update method, Mark?
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I’ll try manually and experiment next time. If it works, you will have saved me a lot of effort!
Any luck with this update method, Mark?
Thanks for asking! I meant to share this news on this forum, but haven't yet. When the last Mars update was available, I let it download and install automatically, without thinking. And it worked - even with adoptable storage enabled.
Boyue must have fixed the bug that kept updates from properly installing automatically. I'll take it!
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Thanks for all of your responses and help, Mark. I am, indeed, debating between the Mars & Nova now. After a bit of research, I figured I would share where my thought process is at in case it is beneficial to anyone else deciding between these two devices.
According to one of your other posts, you state that the Nova seems to run a bit smoother (except within the app store); this seems to confirm what I have seen in other places. It seems that the Nova might have four higher speed processors while the Mars has eight lower speed processors. I am only tech-ie enough to partially understand this jargon, so, if anyone else who could confirm, correct, or shed more light on the implications of the two processors, it would be much appreciated. This video shows the benchmark #s for both: https://youtu.be/KMIJjnQTzFM (just skip to the end of the video to see the results), and it seems that the Nova might, in fact, be faster/smoother according to these #s. While the Nova does seem smoother in this side by side comparison (https://youtu.be/somVi24ZgME)–especially in scrolling–it did not seem faster at all times & in all respects.
Mark, IF you have the time to take a peak at the latter vido, does the comparison between the two generally reflect your usage of Logos on the two devices?
At this point, it seems that my decision is coming down to user experience vs the ability to load my library & have them on hand at all times (e.g. when traveling overseas) for research & reading. From what I have seen, the Nova seems to have a bit better user experience between screen size and general smoothness (I’m not a fan of choppy scrolling when trying to read) while the Likebook wins in the convenience category for sheer (potential) storage space.
Thanks again for all of the help, Mark & company!
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No idea how to take screenshots without the required buttons, but I took a photo.
There are several free apps, like Screenshot Touch, that allow you to take screenshots on the Mars.
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Awesome, great to hear! Thanks for the update!
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Thanks for all of your responses and help, Mark. I am, indeed, debating between the Mars & Nova now. After a bit of research, I figured I would share where my thought process is at in case it is beneficial to anyone else deciding between these two devices.
According to one of your other posts, you state that the Nova seems to run a bit smoother (except within the app store); this seems to confirm what I have seen in other places. It seems that the Nova might have four higher speed processors while the Mars has eight lower speed processors. I am only tech-ie enough to partially understand this jargon, so, if anyone else who could confirm, correct, or shed more light on the implications of the two processors, it would be much appreciated. This video shows the benchmark #s for both: https://youtu.be/KMIJjnQTzFM (just skip to the end of the video to see the results), and it seems that the Nova might, in fact, be faster/smoother according to these #s. While the Nova does seem smoother in this side by side comparison (https://youtu.be/somVi24ZgME)–especially in scrolling–it did not seem faster at all times & in all respects.
Mark, IF you have the time to take a peak at the latter vido, does the comparison between the two generally reflect your usage of Logos on the two devices?
At this point, it seems that my decision is coming down to user experience vs the ability to load my library & have them on hand at all times (e.g. when traveling overseas) for research & reading. From what I have seen, the Nova seems to have a bit better user experience between screen size and general smoothness (I’m not a fan of choppy scrolling when trying to read) while the Likebook wins in the convenience category for sheer (potential) storage space.
Thanks again for all of the help, Mark & company!
Hi, Chris,
That video comes pretty close to my experience. Logos/Verbum loads a little faster on my Nova, and app functions are slightly smoother/quicker. Not a huge difference, but enough to notice. I like the range of light warm/cold on the Nova slightly better than the Mars as well. The Mars has the advantage of more potential internal storage (using a microSD card and adoptable storage).
As for benchmarks, here is a thread in MobileRead where AnTuTu results for both devices are given. The Mars is near the bottom of the first page; the Nova near the top of the second. Disclaimer: downeaster59 is moi.
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That’s a super helpful thread. Thanks, Mark!
I think I might actually be leaning towards he Nova now!
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That’s a super helpful thread. Thanks, Mark!
I think I might actually be leaning towards he Nova now!
If you explore further in MobileRead, you will find threads dedicated to each of the two devices. Nova in Onyx Boox, Mars in Android Devices.
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If you explore further in MobileRead, you will find threads dedicated to each of the two devices. Nova in Onyx Boox, Mars in Android Devices.
Good to know, thanks!
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Here's my review of Logos 8 on the Likebook Mars: https://youtu.be/YTyz5YVbR6w
Here's my general review of the Likebook Mars: https://youtu.be/PL32KPVCfVI
And here's my review with Accordance: https://youtu.be/geSKL4e0mkY
Logos 8 is amazing. The Likebook Mars is too. Neither is designed for the other but they are friendly enough that I'll be using them together, but only at home when nobody is watching. Logos 8 on Android is so slow it's embarrassing. It relies on the cloud for everything. I'll be using Accordance as my on the go Bible app (even on my phone!) Until Logos 8 facilitates easy on-device storage for my entire library. Here's hoping. For now, this is a deal breaker. I'll be using Accordance on my phone and tablet and head back in time to the Desktop PC for Logos 8.
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Has anyone be able to get audible working on the likebook mars?
It comes with the capability to install the audible app but when I try to do that I can’t get past the screen that says to hit next in order to download the needed materials.
Thanks for the help.
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Has anyone be able to get audible working on the likebook mars?
It comes with the capability to install the audible app but when I try to do that I can’t get past the screen that says to hit next in order to download the needed materials.
Thanks for the help.
I found out. He have to go into the app settings and grant permission for drive access.
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I had the same problem and found the same solution, but after I sign in my library doesn’t show; does yours?
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The new e-ink devices that Onyz announced at CES this week -- particularly the 4GB RAM/64GB storage model -- appear to have specs that could possibly make me buy one.
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That's really interesting, Bill! Onyx had said that the Nova Pro would not have a frontlight. Nice that they changed their mind. And they also said - when the Note first came out - that getting a frontlight on such a device was very difficult. Glad they figured it out!
I'm expecting the Note Pro to cost around $600 US. Maybe a bit more, as the current Note is around $540.
There is an alternative that will be available soon: the Boyue Likebook Mimas. It's a 10.3 inch display, with a frontlight and Android 6.0. It will be cheaper than the Note Pro. You will "note" that it has only 2 GB of RAM and 16 GB of internal storage. But... it has a microSD card slot, and Android 6.0 allows for adoptable storage. Pop in a 128 GB microSD card, convert it to internal storage, and you've got room for resources. It may be that the Note Pro will perform a little better overall, but the Mimas may be worth a look.
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Hello, just wanted to share: I purchased an Onyx Boox Note from Amazon for $449 and it works great with Microsoft's Remote Desktop App and Logos running on the computer. The downside is that you can only do this at home (unless you have a static public IP and you expose port 3389 to the Internet -> dangerous). The other down downside is this may drain the battery rather quickly. I haven't used it enough to provide any useful statistics, but I can let you know later on if someone is interested. Cheers.
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Thank you!!
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Has anyone purchased the Onyx Nova Pro or the Onyx Note Pro and is using it with the Logos app?
I'm interested in hearing what the user experience is like as I'm considering making the purchase.
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Has anyone purchased the Onyx Nova Pro or the Onyx Note Pro and is using it with the Logos app?
I'm interested in hearing what the user experience is like as I'm considering making the purchase.
I have the Nova, but not the Pro version. (The only difference is that the Pro allows you to use a stylus for writing on the device.) I have run Logos (or Verbum) on several e-Ink devices. The Nova has been my most satisfying experience thus far. Several factors. The size of the screen seems ideal. The adjustable warm/cold frontlight is a great feature. Performance is better than most e-Ink devices. But what puts the Nova over the top is the optimization menu you can access by long-pressing the Logos or Verbum app icon. You can adjust contrast and background in order to enhance readability. You can adjust "animation timeout" to make page-turning in the Logos app quicker and smoother. There are other features you can optimize as well to enhance your reading/viewing experience.
I can highly recommend the Nova or Nova Pro.
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I can highly recommend the Nova or Nova Pro.
Mark, thanks for your review. Can you use the stylus to highlight text in the Logos app?0 -
I can highly recommend the Nova or Nova Pro.
Mark, thanks for your review. Can you use the stylus to highlight text in the Logos app?Sorry, but as I said, I don't have the Pro version, so no stylus capability!
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