Changing LORD to Yahweh
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Hmmm... For some reason I did not read/see that there was already a post about this above. Weird, I must have been sleeping.
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Tom Geswein said:
I tried tying the filter to "the LORD" and it seems to be working and replacing "the" as well. Please correct me if I'm wrong:
This also seems to work for bibles that do not have a reverse interlinear.
Tom this would work if Yahweh was the underlying word behind every instance of "The Lord" in the OT. But it isn't. There are times when Yahweh is not translated: "The Lord". And there are times when "The Lord" didn't come from Yahweh (See my example from Is 6).
Jacob Hantla
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Mark Barnes said:Joe Miller said:
One filter finds all OT occurrences of "the Lord" in English and the second creates the insert for YHWH.
Except they don't always match, do they?
If you do it this way, they match:
That gives me:
And if I set the color to white and the size to 20% (in addition to the superscript) in the first style, I can make the original text practically disappear:
(Although having a white style in the styles list also makes the style entry seem to disappear [:^)] )
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Well done Todd! That's the best yet.
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Mark Barnes said:
Hey Mark, you'll need the mileneium stadium for a church if you adopt this method for church growth, a bit too liberal for my tastes [:P]
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The solution is particularly helpful (time saving) for English Bibles that do not distinguish between the translations of YHWH and adonai (such as, inexplicably in my books, the NKJV).
Jacob, I love the filder for doulos (= slave instead of servant). Wished I could do this in my print Bible!
The other one I have often wished for but might be trickier to implement even in Logos 4 is to signal which second person pronouns (you) are singular and which are plural and to do so in a way that is not visually excessive (or perhaps the focus should be on verbs, not pronouns). Considering how the initial idea was even improved in this thread, perhaps the collective wisdom can come up with a wonderful idea for this too?
Thanks again, Jacob, Todd and others for sharing.
Blessings,
Francis
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Recently I've begun to notice that this visual filter is being inconsistently or not at all applied even though it is active.
It is active and it does work sometimes. Any ideas?
Jacob Hantla
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interesting Jacob... I have the same problem if I bring up the ESV & apply the visual filter. I haven't noticed that in the NASB though, which is my primary translation for study.
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Jacob Hantla said:
Recently I've begun to notice that this visual filter is being inconsistently or not at all applied even though it is active.
It is active and it does work sometimes. Any ideas?
Your filter needs to use "<lemma = lbs/el/δοῦλος>" instead of just "δοῦλος". (FYI, if you changed the search type to Morph, then the syntax would be the simpler "lemma:δοῦλος"). Otherwise you're just matching the manuscript text, and it's not "δοῦλος" in those cases.
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Todd Phillips said:
Your filter needs to use "<lemma = lbs/el/δοῦλος>" instead of just "δοῦλος". (FYI, if you changed the search type to Morph, then the syntax would be the simpler "lemma:δοῦλος"). Otherwise you're just matching the manuscript text, and it's not "δοῦλος" in those cases.
Thanks Todd. I guess I thought it was basing it off of either lemma or manuscript. Thanks for clarifying and fixing it. Works great now.
Jacob Hantla
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Francis said:
The other one I have often wished for but might be trickier to implement even in Logos 4 is to signal which second person pronouns (you) are singular and which are plural and to do so in a way that is not visually excessive (or perhaps the focus should be on verbs, not pronouns). Considering how the initial idea was even improved in this thread, perhaps the collective wisdom can come up with a wonderful idea for this too?
I have used a few variations of this, but currently, I am using a Visual Filter style that writes a portion of the Morp Codes under the hits.
You need to create a style for every different morph code, and save(exit) the Highlighter Panel, before creating or updating the Visual Filter(s). I am using a text size that is 40%, so its readable, but easy to ignore too.
I would do this also for the original example of this thread. I would leave the supplied translation-text unchanged, and write "YHWH" below "Lord". This would tend to avoid the problems with "the Lord" or "O Lord" and such variations.
(I would love it if we could provide a tag as part of each rule within a given Visual Filter, and then draw on that tag within a Highlight Style. Then we could use "[T]" or "%T" or something within a Highlight Style, to pick up the tag. Until then, I guess I'm going to be creating a LOT of new Highlights. Hint for developers: like %s in printf to insert a string at that spot.)
P.S. For the record, I really did not like the modified Ten Commandments, and would rather such "jokes" not be posted in the Logos Forums.
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JimT said:
P.S. For the record, I really did not like the modified Ten Commandments, and would rather such "jokes" not be posted in the Logos Forums.
Sorry, no offence intended.
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Francis said:
The other one I have often wished for but might be trickier to implement even in Logos 4 is to signal which second person pronouns (you) are singular and which are plural and to do so in a way that is not visually excessive
Francis, after reading this post, this is a visual filter I implemented. The "Pl" is not very intrusive and is enough to remind me that the second person pronouns and verbs are plural. "For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Jacob Hantla: Thanks for this wonderful tip. I find it rather annoying that translators continue to incorrectly translate the Lord's personal name (YHWH) into a title (LORD). This will save me a lot of time in my studies.
Todd Phillips: Thanks for helping to make it even better (by getting rid of "the").
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It would be nice if we could add a more powerful form of pattern to the Visual Filter rules.
This is something thats possible in various programming languages or regular expression tools. The ability to provide an optional context that comes before and comes after the target match.
An example, "invented" pattern of the form /pre/match/post/ to look for "fox" after "brown", and then highlight the find.
Pattern: /brown/fox//
Text: The quick brown fox jumped, or did the other fox push him?
Result: The quick brown fox jumped, or did the other fox push him?
The 2nd "fox" does not have the matching prefix, and "brown" is not highlighted as its part of the context, not the actual target.
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JimT said:
This is something thats possible in various programming languages or regular expression tools. The ability to provide an optional context that comes before and comes after the target match.
Sounds like a suggestion!
But I wonder if the context should also be highlighted, and with a different format so you don't have to refer to the Filter afterward!? For example
fox WITHIN 2 words brown || Green highlight | brown text ||
And, yes, if the Search engine introduces Regular Expressions then use that as well.
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
And, yes, if the Search engine introduces Regular Expressions then use that as well.
Yes, that too. Full Regular Expressions with context etc would be great.
Please take what I wrote, and your comments, and write it up if you wish.
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Francis said:
Thanks again, Jacob, Todd and others for sharing.
This is saWEET and totally cool! I now have my own personal ESV "Sacred Name" edition! (dancing in a circle, dancing in a circle!) I just inserted יהוה (I cannot figure out how to make this bigger in the forums grhhh) for my label text.
Mu-ah (umm, holy kiss from my avatar)! Now I can work on a Visual filter for God/Elohim! Brilliant idea Jacob, and nice tweak Todd.
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JimT said:
Please take what I wrote, and your comments, and write it up if you wish.
Dave
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Jacob Hantla said:
I just thought that I'd share how I'm using visual filters to reveal where יהוה (YHWH) is in the OT. I actually replace the text with Yahweh.
Is it possible to insert יהוה instead of Yahweh? I tried this, but Logos 4 crashed.
Charlene
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I got it to work. Could you post logs from the crash?
http://wiki.logos.com/Diagnostic_Logging
http://wiki.logos.com/Uploading_LogsProv. 15:23
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Is there any way to use the Strong's numbers in the search criteria (left) side of the Visual Filter? If so, can someone please provide an example of how to do this.
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GeoPappas said:
Is there any way to use the Strong's numbers in the search criteria (left) side of the Visual Filter? If so, can someone please provide an example of how to do this.
Use this syntax <GreekStrongs = #1345> or <HebrewStrongs = #3124>
Prov. 15:23
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Kevin Becker said:GeoPappas said:
Is there any way to use the Strong's numbers in the search criteria (left) side of the Visual Filter? If so, can someone please provide an example of how to do this.
Use this syntax <GreekStrongs = #1345> or <HebrewStrongs = #3124>
Thank you so much. Have a blessed day.
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OK, I seem to be having a problem and I'm not sure if it is a bug or not.
I am trying to replace the Hebrew in the search criteria with HebrewStrongs numbers, but I seem to be running into a few issues.
When I use the HebrewStrongs in the search criteria (left) side of the Visual Filter I am getting weird results. (NOTE: The search criteria that I am using is <HebrewStrongs=#3068>)
For example, in the NASB, in Gen 15:2, it is inserting YHWHGod in the superscript, when it should be just God.
Also, in the ESV, KJV, and NRSV, it isn't working as expected, but that seems to be because the Strong's #s are missing from the ESV for YHWH (H3068). For example, in Gen 15:1, the word Lord is missing the Strong's number. There are many other verses
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