BUG: Missing result in search

I am searching my English Bibles to find alternative spellings of the name Azur? Why because the AV uses the spelling Azur while Factbook uses Azzur and there is no link/alias between the spellings. This makes it harder to use untagged Bibles (and other resources).

My search is: "Azzur, Azur, Asur, Assur, of" - the of being used simply to ensure that all Bibles appears even if I haven't found their spelling of the name. This results in:

Note that the Numerical Bible shows matches only on "of" i.e. no spelling of Azur was detected. However, the spelling Azzur is present in the text - I would expect to see it in the results as I have in the preceding translations.

When I rerun with the expanded query "Azzur, Azur, Asur, Assur, Ezer, of" the missing value appears.

Note the change should have had no effect on this resource. Rather it implies that the search is not reliable - that results are in some way effected by the state of the application when you run the query.

Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

Comments

  • Randy W. Sims
    Randy W. Sims Member Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭

    I noted that your results show 42 for both searches. I tried the same 2 search strings you used, in the same order. Both of my searches resemble the second screen shot. Not sure why your screens show different...

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,199

    I can't reproduce this problem. Can you confirm that you hadn't simply scrolled down in the first screenshot? Your screenshot is missing the first 17 rows (including "Azzur").

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,583

    It is possible although I had scrolled up and down looking for Azzur several times. I've had similar situations in the past where a known case was not picked up in a search - one every 3-4 weeks. What I was hoping for was how best to document non-repeatable errors for you or at least to let you know that you should keep your eyes open for the error.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 12,199

    MJ. Smith said:

    I've had similar situations in the past where a known case was not picked up in a search - one every 3-4 weeks. What I was hoping for was how best to document non-repeatable errors for you or at least to let you know that you should keep your eyes open for the error.

    Are you saying that you run the same search  multiple times yet get different results?

    I've heard of searches being different across machines with the same library, but not a single machine giving inconsistent search results. Given a particular installation's index file, the search is completely deterministic; it shouldn't give different results when executed multiple times.

    However, if you do encounter this, screenshots of the different results from multiple runs of the same query would be the most helpful. (Even in this case, your screenshots show 42 results for both searches; there wasn't a difference in results as far as I can tell.)

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,356

    Azzur is <Person Azzur (father of Jaazaniah)>  (Ezek 11:1) and the variation in tagged bibles is Azur

    Azzur is also <Person Azzur (father of Hananiah)>  (Jer 28:1) and the variation in tagged bibles is Azur

    Asshur is <Person Asshur (person)> (Gen 10:22) and the variation in tagged bibles is Ashur. Assur is used in D-R bible.

    Assur is a city <Place Assur>  but with no results in tagged bibles

    Assur is associated with the Assyrians (Ezra 4:2, Ps 83:8)  in AV, Cambridge Para Bible, and the variation is Asur

    Assur is also a person (1 Esdras 5:31) and the variation is Asur. Also a person in Judith (no variation).

    D-R has other uses of Assur, that tagged bibles associate with Assyrians or King of Assyria...

    Ezer is many  Persons, not associated with the above.

    All very interesting and difficult to track!

    Dave
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