When Are We Going to See Proclaim for iPad?

Jim Erwin
Jim Erwin Member Posts: 278 ✭✭

Hello,

My church has finally upgraded to a wireless system. We can now use presentation software. I would like to use Proclaim without the use of a laptop. Does Proclaim come for the iPad? Or is that just the remote app?

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jimerwin/ - a postmodern pastor in a digital world

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  • Justin (Faithlife)
    Justin (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 355

    We hope to expand Proclaim's cross-platform usability in the future, but at the moment only the remote app works on the iPad. 

  • Brian Burkhart (Faithlife)
    Brian Burkhart (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 37

    The App for Proclaim on tablets (including iPad) and phone may only control (or follow) the presentation: it if not a full featured edition of Proclaim so it cannot be used to create or edit a presentation.  However, one can use the iPad to present it via AirPlay. Also, we are working to support quickscreens right now, and work on autoadvance (for the loops) will begin soon.

  • Justin Gatlin
    Justin Gatlin Member, MVP Posts: 2,272

    For home Bible studies, I have plugged my Apple TV in, remote desktop (I use Splashtop) into my office computer to run Proclaim, and then screencast the iPad to the Apple TV. It works quite well, if your internet connection is good. The big downside is that, since you are broadcasting the screen, you have to be viewing the presentation on your iPad, not the application. 

  • Jordan Sjodin
    Jordan Sjodin Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 985

    Justin, did you know that you can Airplay from iPad app? I mention this cause home bible studies is what I imagined it being used for. If you have tried it, what made you not use it?

    Mac | iOS | Android | Windows | Web Developer 

  • Justin Gatlin
    Justin Gatlin Member, MVP Posts: 2,272

    Justin, did you know that you can Airplay from iPad app? I mention this cause home bible studies is what I imagined it being used for. If you have tried it, what made you not use it?

    I did not realize that! I will have to try that next time. Thanks for the heads up, Jordan.

  • Jordan Sjodin
    Jordan Sjodin Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 985
    Awesome, yeah let me know what you think. Essentially, after opening the app, pull open control center, and turn on mirroring. The app will take over with a black screen. Then any presentation you open will be presented on the display.

    Mac | iOS | Android | Windows | Web Developer 

  • Jim Erwin
    Jim Erwin Member Posts: 278 ✭✭

    I have used Keynote for my presentations for years. I just plug the iPad to the projector screen adapter and ready to go. I understand what all of you are describing. However, the Proclaim software should me much more user friendly to use. I should be able to connect the same way I can with Keynote. I should not have to mirror or add other technology just to use this software for a presentation. I hope that comes soon to Proclaim. 

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jimerwin/ - a postmodern pastor in a digital world

  • Jordan Sjodin
    Jordan Sjodin Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 985

    Hey Jim, even though Apple calls it mirroring, the second the Proclaim app detects the screen, it will go fullscreen, so it is not actually mirroring or adding another technology. Just using Apple's airplay. It would also work with the physical cables Apple sells too.

    I was unaware that the Keynote app does that automatically, we probably could add a button right to the Proclaim app to start outputting which would be more user-friendly then having to go to control center.

    Mac | iOS | Android | Windows | Web Developer 

  • Jordan Sjodin
    Jordan Sjodin Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 985

    I was unaware that the Keynote app does that automatically, we probably could add a button right to the Proclaim app to start outputting which would be more user-friendly then having to go to control center.

    Turns out Apple doesn't let people do this... I checked in Keynote, and for Airplay they make you go to Control Center too. I'm going to get a cable soon to test the Proclaim Remote with hooking it up to a projector not via AirPlay.

    Mac | iOS | Android | Windows | Web Developer 

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭

    To use Proclaim on ipad I would need the ability to write on slides. I do this all the time in Keynote with an Apple Pencil.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Pastor Wynn
    Pastor Wynn Member Posts: 15 ✭✭

    I just purchased Proclaim this week, May 21, 2019, and just realized there are no editing capabilities on an iPad. Why?

    In a day when mobile devices are replacing desktops and laptops, why would be Remote Control only with no editing ability?  That makes no sense at all.

    Please bring editing to the IOS devices 

  • PWB
    PWB Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    Any update on this?  Any chance we can see the ability to create/edit proclaim presentations on iOS soon?  

  • Matt Mattox
    Matt Mattox Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 1,020

    Our goal is to support a web version of Proclaim. This would allow you to edit on mobile if connected to your network. However, we are still in the early stages on discussing the best approach on solving this. Right now, very little development has been created on this process.

    We'll keep you updated and make sure to announce when this feature is published. 

  • Pastor Wynn
    Pastor Wynn Member Posts: 15 ✭✭

    I know that FaithLife realizes that web-based applications are losing their market share.  We live in a mobile-device culture.  The exisitng Proclaim app should be fully editable in a mobile environment.  Logging into a web-based application is a good temporary work-around, but it is a clunky mode of operation.

    Not trying to be critical, but pratical.  I LOVE Proclaim, and the FaithLife products.  Just wanted to point out the obvious flaw of web-based applications.

    Keep up the great work.

  • Matt Mattox
    Matt Mattox Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 1,020

    Feedback is always appreciated here Pastor Wynn. No sweat on the response as this is how we are able to build and look at what people are wanting. 

    Appreciate the feedback and we'll keep note when the time comes on us developing this feature. 

  • Chris Dunning
    Chris Dunning Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    I would also love a dedicated app for iOS/iPadOS. Editing is the most important feature I feel is missing from my iPad workflow. Even just the ability to upload image slideshows in the remote app would be nice.

  • Daniel Chung
    Daniel Chung Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    Hello, 

    I was just wondering if there was any update on this as we are looking to move to an ipad pro! 

    Thanks! 

  • Larry Castle
    Larry Castle Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    Hi Jordan! I realize that I’m commenting on an ancient post but this was the top hit when I searched for editing Proclaim Presentations on iPad. It’s been two years and I have noticed that there have been improvements to the Proclaim Remote app; however, iPad Pro has gotten to the point that I have ditched my MacBoook and only use an my iPad with the Magic Keyboard. Just about everything I do is now easier on the iPad. And I have the added convenience of a touch interface and Apple Pencil when I need it.

    The ONLY thing I do every week that I cannot do on my iPad is prepare our Proclaim Presentation. It’s really a bummer to have to maintain an ancient iMac (I found one on Facebook for $300) just for editing our Proclaim Presentations. I honestly would have just moved back to Keynote like we used years ago if it were not for Proclaim’s Song Select/CCLI integration. I import the song set from PCO Services and that’s a big enough time saver that I’m begrudgingly sticking with Proclaim for now.

    But I wanted to let you know because it’s been two years since this post asking for this feature and there is still nothing. I have gone in and made the suggestion. In the tool support provided a link to a while back. I also found every related suggestion and upvoted it. However, I am actively looking for something that integrates with PCO and CCLI but allows editing on iPad. Though the only Faithlife solution we currently use is Proclaim (I have Logos and Faithlife TV at home), I still really like it and do not want to make a change. If you have anyway to push this recommendation up the line, I’d stick around in a heart beat with this one update being made. Thanks!

  • ReformedPilgrim
    ReformedPilgrim Member Posts: 42 ✭✭

    Hi Jordan! I realize that I’m commenting on an ancient post but this was the top hit when I searched for editing Proclaim Presentations on iPad. It’s been two years and I have noticed that there have been improvements to the Proclaim Remote app; however, iPad Pro has gotten to the point that I have ditched my MacBoook and only use an my iPad with the Magic Keyboard. Just about everything I do is now easier on the iPad. And I have the added convenience of a touch interface and Apple Pencil when I need it.

    The ONLY thing I do every week that I cannot do on my iPad is prepare our Proclaim Presentation. It’s really a bummer to have to maintain an ancient iMac (I found one on Facebook for $300) just for editing our Proclaim Presentations. I honestly would have just moved back to Keynote like we used years ago if it were not for Proclaim’s Song Select/CCLI integration. I import the song set from PCO Services and that’s a big enough time saver that I’m begrudgingly sticking with Proclaim for now.

    But I wanted to let you know because it’s been two years since this post asking for this feature and there is still nothing. I have gone in and made the suggestion. In the tool support provided a link to a while back. I also found every related suggestion and upvoted it. However, I am actively looking for something that integrates with PCO and CCLI but allows editing on iPad. Though the only Faithlife solution we currently use is Proclaim (I have Logos and Faithlife TV at home), I still really like it and do not want to make a change. If you have anyway to push this recommendation up the line, I’d stick around in a heart beat with this one update being made. Thanks!

    Logos and Proclaim are the only two apps that I keep my MacBook around for. 

    That said you can edit Proclaim presentations off your iPad by remoting in to your Mac. Either do it by Jump Desktop or use Sidecar. Never have to physically touch the Mac and with Jump Desktop you don’t even have to be in the same location as your Mac. 

  • Larry Castle
    Larry Castle Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    Tim,

    Thanks for the suggestion. I have done that on a newer MacBook but I’m interested in getting rid of the MacBook (someone else on the team needs it. The older iMac I have isn’t going to work very well as a remote terminal since it can’t run the latest Mac OS. Just this week I got a notice inside of Proclaim saying that my version of Mac OS will not be supported much longer. I guess I’ll drive it until it dies, so-to-speak. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • Jethro
    Jethro Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    I'm also on the same boat, we are using the a computer during service, but would like to have a way to edit the service via ipad or maybe and android to let other members of the team to modify services in advance from their own devices.

    would also like to have atleast the preview mode in ipad or android, not just the timeline view

  • Greg Peterson
    Greg Peterson Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    I see that people have been commenting about the whole IPhone and or iPad abilities for well over two years now. iPhone nor iPads are new to the mobile device arena, as I’ve had them since day one of inception and released to the general public over 13 years ago. My question is why for over 2years of posts here or better yet over 13 years of iOS mobile devices isn’t proclaim fully functional from iOS devices? We bought proclaim here recently because of it’s stated abilities to operate from iOS well that was misleading as it’s not able to do much at all other than read only. 

  • Jordan Sjodin
    Jordan Sjodin Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 985

    Hi, Greg, sorry that the iOS app didn't live up to expectations. I'll make sure to take a look at the marketing material and ensure what we are saying is true.

    Currently, the iOS app can control, follow, and present your presentations (minus video support), plus, let you view the confidence monitor for your presentations. We don't have any editing capabilities at this time. We think presenting from the iOS app is great for something like a small group bible study.

    As for why we don't have the app with full editing on iOS, I think up until recently iOS was a lot more about content consumption rather than creation. Recently though, Apple seems to be changing that with new features, specifically with iPad, such as the Apple Pencil, keyboard/mouse support, etc.

    We do value all your feedback and it definitely does influence our development roadmap! As for now, however, I don't have any news with regard to an iOS app for editing presentations.

    Mac | iOS | Android | Windows | Web Developer 

  • Mark Sigue
    Mark Sigue Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    As we now approach 2nd quarter of 2021, a time when virtual church has become more of the norm than ever and technology moving in a faster pace to provide us with efficient worship service preparations, any chance at all where we can do full edits to Proclaim on an iPadPro. Pretty Please? And thank you so much!

  • Sean Metcalfe(Faithlife)
    Sean Metcalfe(Faithlife) Member Posts: 87 ✭✭

    Hi Mark!

    Thanks for the thoughtful input, our team has discussed this topic and a solution. I don't have any information to share on that at the moment but I advise you make a feature request on https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/faithlife-proclaim. Our developers keep there eyes on feature requests there so they can map out where to develop new tools and features based on needs in the Proclaim community. That would be a great place to add your request and also vote for other requests.

  • William Jonathan Weems
    William Jonathan Weems Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    It really is time for this.  I think faithlife is about 5 Years behind on all of this.

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Pastor Cavan
    Pastor Cavan Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    Any update? How is this not on the top of the developer list by now 3+ years later?

  • Vincent Hokkanen
    Vincent Hokkanen Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Where are we at with making Proclaim editable on an IPad? Has a decision been made to do that or not? I would like to know more than saying “we are working that.” Are you developing it or not…are you going to for sure do? that Thanks!

  • Larry Castle
    Larry Castle Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    Two more years have gone by and no movement on this request as far as I can tell. I remember years ago that I used to use and LOVE Olivetree software on my Palm OS devices. I had purchased a significant number of resources in their ecosystem. I was an avid Palm OS fan and even worked for FranklinCovey at the time as a technology trainer specializing in Palm OS productivity apps. When the iPhone came out, I immediately recognized the sea change that was beginning. I was baffled at the LONG delay at Olivetree in supporting the new iOS platform. The explanation provided by the devs was that there was a huge Palm OS audience that was owed support and they simply couldn’t do everything they’d like to do. I think we all know how that played out. I think Olivetree is still around but I don’t really know anyone that still uses it. My guess is that nearly all of those Palm OS Olivetree users are now using YouVersion on their iOS devices.

    Now, I’m not suggesting that Faithlife is going to bite the dust because of their lack of foresight in supporting the rapidly evolving iPad OS ecosystem (secondary monitor support, M2 iPad on the verge of release, etc.). Logos alone is enough to hold their place with iPad users and iPad support for that product has been steadily improving. However, there are A LOT of good presentation solutions for iPad OS. Canva is even throwing their hat in the ring these days. I’m sure providing edit support for the iPad OS experience of Proclaim is not trivial given the wide variety of capabilities it entails. But I’m guessing the vast majority of churches that use Proclaim barely scratch the surface of the feature set and use Proclaim primarily as a Sup‘ed up PowerPoint substitute. Of that sizable segment of the Proclaim user base, I’d also wager that a high percentage of the Pastors and Music Ministers use iPads in their workflow (even the PC users commonly use iPads). It would be a shame to be talking about this 10 years from now and mourning the loss of Proclaim (even though Logos will surely survive) because the dev team and Faithlife leadership could not clearly see the inevitable impact the iPad is having on the future of the portable market.

    This thread and these requests are now 4 years old. The pace of progress in the iPad OS universe is gaining, not slowing. Will Proclaim get in the game? I hope so.

  • Robert Garon II
    Robert Garon II Member Posts: 1

    Looks like they came out with a major Proclaim update this week, HOWEVER STILL no iPad app for it or any support. The Proclaim Remote is virtually useless as it rarely works and isn't what we want or need.

    Faithlife PLEASE create a "good" and fully functional Proclaim app for iPad. Please!!!

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,459

    Any update? How is this not on the top of the developer list by now 3+ years later?

    I find I need the full capacity of my two 32in screens when putting together a Presentation. I would hate to try this on a single iPad.

    However while I agree that the 'Proclaim Remote' is a constant disappointment - a reliable remote would be so much help.

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    Mike

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  • Larry Castle
    Larry Castle Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    Don’t hold your breath, brother. Here we are almost another year later and not a single bit of progress in this direction. I currently remote in to my Mac mini that lives at my desk when I need to edit Proclaim presentations. But I’m actively looking into other solutions because we’re all moving to iPads as our primary machines. The booth will continue to run Mac minis for our presentations during services, but the iPad is such a great solution for what we all do day to day. Sadly, that will not include editing Proclaim presentations for much longer.

  • Andrew (Andy) Smothers
    Andrew (Andy) Smothers Member Posts: 19 ✭✭

    I would strongly recommend Logos add full iPadOS support for Proclaim.  We’re nearly ready to implement Logos Digital Signage, and I‘ve developed openness in our media and worship team to use Proclaim.  The largest challenge is that I (the pastor) use an iPad for everything and wouldn’t be able to develop sermon slides.  I do them now in Keynote and export to Powerpoint for worship.  I’ve been hoping Logos would have an iPadOS app (or at least a web app that functions well on iPad) for quite a while.

  • Andrew (Andy) Smothers
    Andrew (Andy) Smothers Member Posts: 19 ✭✭

    I would strongly recommend Logos add full iPadOS support for Proclaim.  We’re nearly ready to implement Logos Digital Signage, and I‘ve developed openness in our media and worship team to use Proclaim.  The largest challenge is that I (the pastor) use an iPad for everything and wouldn’t be able to develop sermon slides.  I do them now in Keynote and export to Powerpoint for worship.  I’ve been hoping Logos would have an iPadOS app (or at least a web app that functions well on iPad) for quite a while.

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭

    I (the pastor) use an iPad for everything and wouldn’t be able to develop sermon slides.  I do them now in Keynote and export to Powerpoint for worship

    SermonBuilder (on iPad) has capability of creating sermon slides that can be exported according to yesterday's deep dive webinar. [I do not know if YOU are exporting and importing on your iPad, or if you are exporting and another staff or volunteer is doing the import on another device] Caveat: until Logos establishes parity between the Proclaim slide templates and Sermon Builder slide templates, I still edit extensively in Proclaim after I export from Sermon Builder, which you could not do until iPad creation/editing becomes available.

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