I don't like the new UI, feels cheap.
I want to go back to the way it was, how can I do that?
Uninstall eight and down load seven. You may have to ask logos to block your account from receiving 8 until you are ready for it, otherwise it will simply update
I don't like the new UI, feels cheap. I want to go back to the way it was, how can I do that?
Am close to asking the same question Tito
Actually like the UI just feel like I'm testing a Beta and don't have the time to be a Beta tester.
There is a 30-day money back guarantee. Just give Faithlife a call and they should be able to sort you out.
On the other hand, you could give it time and see if it grows on you!
The UI is not THAT much different than L7. I don't really understand your point. Do you not also like the new tools that come with L8?
I would be interested in knowing what specific issues, concerns, or dislikes you have about the UI.
I would like to know this too. Sometimes it just takes a bit of time to adapt to the changes.
I'm not sold on the UI either but I'm trying to give it a chance, looks too much like the web app which I've never been a fan of. I know they said it's customizable so I'm going to poke around with it.
I would like to advise against going back because the new UI unifies the online and desktop experience. We are used to a desktop experience that was specifically designed for desktops. It would not work well online. A little pain now will pay off in the future as our devices get more and more integrated. You should have heard me yell a few days ago when I had to connect my Kindle and iPhone to get my new SmartPlug to work with Echo -- but integration is the direction of the future.
We're sorry to hear you don't like the new UI, Tito! Our Customer Service team is always here to help our customers get the most out of their Logos experience. You can reach them at logos.com/contact. I also recommend checking out our training resource page, which could help answer some questions: https://www.logos.com/logos-pro. I hope that helps. Let me know if you have additional questions.
Hmmm ... on previous versions, they said updated meant updated (absent some registry surgery). But maybe L8 is a web app in sheeps clothing, and no problem.
Yeah... I'm not too fond of the new layout, either, most especially the home page. It's one reason I don't use the online version for anything other than a quick lookup.
I loved the old home page format, and found it somewhat addictive. It looked informative (even if it was trying to sell product).
The new one is just looks like ads, ads, ads. It also seems that we also had a lot more control over what content showed up on the old home page. Now you can turn off your own cards, but you have to suffer through whatever else Faithlife wants to throw at you, with no (apparent) way to turn it off or tone it down.
I dislike it so much that I've resorted to turning off the home screen as my default startup page, and just set it to blank screen instead (Tools->Program Settings->At Startup Open to->Blank layout).
It'll probably save me a lot of money over the long run!
they said updated meant updated
I think you are remembering the instances in which there had been a major change in the resources that made them incompatible backwards.
Yep. But FL is going to do more work on the Home Page, so I'd expect more options in the future. (I prefer the L7 layout, too.)
(I prefer the L7 layout, too.)
Look - you all aren't Verbum users who (a) had lectionary lose necessary functionality (b) had saints lose necessary functionally plus being built in a way that doesn't work with the resource it was built for (c) caught the fact the either Daily Devotional isn't working right or they incorrectly assigned type in the library ..... and that's just in the Dashboard ...
That's true, I prefer version 7 that looks pro, L8 is weakness.
I have to agree L8 home page is awful. Never liked the web app and now the desktop homepage looks awful too, it no longer looks like professional bible study software package but instead one for children. Added to the fact it’s incompete and we are being told we have to wait for a future update before we can remove all the marketing fluff from it, it does not give a good first chance impression of the software.
Honestly, if that is what you are judging all of L8 on I think you have severely missed the point. It's going to be fixed. It isn't fixed today. No sense going on and on about it, just move on.
I remember when everyone hated the new iOS design back in 2012-13ish. It looked so different (aka, cheap, cartoon-y, etc) compared to what we were used to for 4-5 years. The new L8 design reminded me of that
Logos/Verbum 8.1 will have an improved homepage, which I'm looking forward to.
Two constructive suggestions if you don't like the new homepage look:
I'll admit that i've bypassed the home page since Logos 4: it was too busy and not useful enough (don't tell my boss!). But i'm giving it another try: I find the redesign around task cards genuinely useful. But you don't have to look at them if you have a different opinion.
I'm with Sean, I haven't used the homepage in a long time. I load most recent layout. I think the value proposition is also linked to the colour and font. If you work on a mac then the darker themes have become the visual signal of a professional app. I look forward to Logos dark mode! I already swapped out the fonts for SBL biblit and open sans, loose spacing, dark grey background.
Three negatives so far:
1) Home page is pretty bad. No way to clear out the junk and just peruse ONLY items that interest me. Cannot find out how to choose default Bible.
2)Clicking on Daily Bible reading plan jumps to a new layout rather than opening my Bible in my preferred layout to the correct readings.
3) Corresponding highlights from one translation to another is gone.
Has anyone confirmed that this approach would work for someone who wants to go back to 7 while the initial flaws in 8 are fixed?
Obvious issues I can think of are:
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I have to agree L8 home page is awful. Never liked the web app and now the desktop homepage looks awful too, it no longer looks like professional bible study software package but instead one for children. Added to the fact it’s incompete and we are being told we have to wait for a future update before we can remove all the marketing fluff from it, it does not give a good first chance impression of the software. Honestly, if that is what you are judging all of L8 on I think you have severely missed the point. It's going to be fixed. It isn't fixed today. No sense going on and on about it, just move on.
I think David wants this thread to stay on top, Logos7 is so good!
Actually, my question would be whether L8 is a forced install. On L7, you can decline installation. I'd buy the large package, as long as I could use L7 (I have my doubts about the timing of 8.1).
Yes, you can decline installation but for once I think your doubts are entirely unfounded. You have no need of the home page. Simply set to open to a blank page or your most common layout and you'll bypass most everything people are complaining about.
It’s not the only aspect David, but it’s the first impression you get of the software and it is badly broken and makes the software look cheap. It should not of been released in this state. I’m glad your confident it will be fixed by 8.1.
The home page is supposed to be a show pony of Logos 8 and it looks like a malnourished underweight pony. It’s not your place to tell me I can not provide honest feedback on that.
It’s not the only aspect David, but it’s the first impression you get of the software and it is badly broken and makes the software look cheap. It should not of been released in this state
Hi doc
Would you be able to expand on your concerns? I understand that being unable to customise the Explorer section is causing disatisfaction to some but I get the sense that there is more to it from your perspective.
If so, it would be good to understand that
Problem is Sean I rely on home page to access multple reading plans and the ‘cards’ for my reading plans are broken. They take me to the wrong bible version. If I use the reading plan document it opens the correct version. So FL have bromen a workflow that was not broken.
Two constructive suggestions if you don't like the new homepage look: "Show Program Settings" in the command bar, then under General / At Startup Open to, you can select a specific layout, or your most recent one. MJ cleverly suggested here that you can fill up the dashboard section with cards that are important to you, which will push the Explore section down (if that's what you don't want to see). I'll admit that i've bypassed the home page since Logos 4: it was too busy and not useful enough (don't tell my boss!). But i'm giving it another try: I find the redesign around task cards genuinely useful. But you don't have to look at them if you have a different opinion.
It’s not the only aspect David, but it’s the first impression you get of the software and it is badly broken and makes the software look cheap. It should not of been released in this state. I’m glad your confident it will be fixed by 8.1. The home page is supposed to be a show pony of Logos 8 and it looks like a malnourished underweight pony. It’s not your place to tell me I can not provide honest feedback on that. I have to agree L8 home page is awful. Never liked the web app and now the desktop homepage looks awful too, it no longer looks like professional bible study software package but instead one for children. Added to the fact it’s incompete and we are being told we have to wait for a future update before we can remove all the marketing fluff from it, it does not give a good first chance impression of the software. Honestly, if that is what you are judging all of L8 on I think you have severely missed the point. It's going to be fixed. It isn't fixed today. No sense going on and on about it, just move on.
Doc: I respectfully disagree. While the homepage isn't great, the program itself is better than ever, IMHO.
Knowing your issues the folks here are really helpful in guiding people with questions. Although people tend to not like change, take some time look at the Morris Proctor videos and give it a shot and learning how it works. FL is good on their 30 day returns, but this is a much nicer and smoother change than to Logos 4 and I was on the Beta team at that time. Wow that was a change...as is Logos 8, but feels much cleaner and robust. I will no doubt like it more as i spend time working in it. Only have had a couple of hours to work through it so far.
They take me to the wrong bible version. If I use the reading plan document it opens the correct version. So FL have bromen a workflow that was not broken.
doc, sorry you are having this issue. I'd like to know more about it so that I can work to resolve it for you. I haven't had any luck trying to get it to happen. Can you help me try to reproduce it? Anything unique about your setup that I can test? Are there certain steps that led to this behavior?
(I prefer the L7 layout, too.) Look - you all aren't Verbum users who (a) had lectionary lose necessary functionality (b) had saints lose necessary functionally plus being built in a way that doesn't work with the resource it was built for (c) caught the fact the either Daily Devotional isn't working right or they incorrectly assigned type in the library ..... and that's just in the Dashboard ...
MJ I hope they get this fixed sooner rather than later, it's not acceptable for this to be done to Verbum users. It's disgraceful.
Yeah, I don't like 8 at all. Used to be I put in a passage and the whole thing opened all my Bibles and several other resources and now it takes 10 minutes to open all the stuff that used to just open naturally. Having just a 'SEARCH' option is HORRIBLE! I want my 7 back.
Jon, you're more likely to get help if you start a thread with the issues you're having rather than posting to a thread that's been dormant for 7 months.
That said, it sounds to me like you're not liking the default Passage Study Layout (what opens when you type a passage into to Go box). This can be customized quite easily... Get your layout setup like you want it, including linksets, then from the Layouts menu select "Replace with current layout" next to the Passage Study layout in the Home Page Layouts section.
