How can I go back to Logos 7?
I don't like the new UI, feels cheap.
I want to go back to the way it was, how can I do that?
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Uninstall eight and down load seven. You may have to ask logos to block your account from receiving 8 until you are ready for it, otherwise it will simply update
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Tito Reinaldo said:
I don't like the new UI, feels cheap.
I want to go back to the way it was, how can I do that?
Am close to asking the same question Tito
Actually like the UI just feel like I'm testing a Beta and don't have the time to be a Beta tester.
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Tito Reinaldo said:
I want to go back to the way it was, how can I do that?
There is a 30-day money back guarantee. Just give Faithlife a call and they should be able to sort you out.
On the other hand, you could give it time and see if it grows on you!
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The UI is not THAT much different than L7. I don't really understand your point. Do you not also like the new tools that come with L8?
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I would be interested in knowing what specific issues, concerns, or dislikes you have about the UI.
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Fredc said:
I would be interested in knowing what specific issues, concerns, or dislikes you have about the UI.
I would like to know this too. Sometimes it just takes a bit of time to adapt to the changes.
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I'm not sold on the UI either but I'm trying to give it a chance, looks too much like the web app which I've never been a fan of. I know they said it's customizable so I'm going to poke around with it.
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Tito Reinaldo said:
I don't like the new UI, feels cheap.
I want to go back to the way it was, how can I do that?
I would like to advise against going back because the new UI unifies the online and desktop experience. We are used to a desktop experience that was specifically designed for desktops. It would not work well online. A little pain now will pay off in the future as our devices get more and more integrated. You should have heard me yell a few days ago when I had to connect my Kindle and iPhone to get my new SmartPlug to work with Echo -- but integration is the direction of the future.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Tito Reinaldo said:
We're sorry to hear you don't like the new UI, Tito! Our Customer Service team is always here to help our customers get the most out of their Logos experience. You can reach them at logos.com/contact. I also recommend checking out our training resource page, which could help answer some questions: https://www.logos.com/logos-pro. I hope that helps. Let me know if you have additional questions.
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Lynden Williams said:
Uninstall eight and down load seven. You may have to ask logos to block your account from receiving 8 until you are ready for it, otherwise it will simply update
Hmmm ... on previous versions, they said updated meant updated (absent some registry surgery). But maybe L8 is a web app in sheeps clothing, and no problem.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Yeah... I'm not too fond of the new layout, either, most especially the home page. It's one reason I don't use the online version for anything other than a quick lookup.
I loved the old home page format, and found it somewhat addictive. It looked informative (even if it was trying to sell product).
The new one is just looks like ads, ads, ads. It also seems that we also had a lot more control over what content showed up on the old home page. Now you can turn off your own cards, but you have to suffer through whatever else Faithlife wants to throw at you, with no (apparent) way to turn it off or tone it down.
I dislike it so much that I've resorted to turning off the home screen as my default startup page, and just set it to blank screen instead (Tools->Program Settings->At Startup Open to->Blank layout).
It'll probably save me a lot of money over the long run!
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Denise said:
they said updated meant updated
I think you are remembering the instances in which there had been a major change in the resources that made them incompatible backwards.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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James Fowlie said:
It'll probably save me a lot of money over the long run!
Yep. But FL is going to do more work on the Home Page, so I'd expect more options in the future. (I prefer the L7 layout, too.)
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Mark Smith said:
(I prefer the L7 layout, too.)
Look - you all aren't Verbum users who (a) had lectionary lose necessary functionality (b) had saints lose necessary functionally plus being built in a way that doesn't work with the resource it was built for (c) caught the fact the either Daily Devotional isn't working right or they incorrectly assigned type in the library ..... and that's just in the Dashboard ...
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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That's true, I prefer version 7 that looks pro, L8 is weakness.
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I have to agree L8 home page is awful. Never liked the web app and now the desktop homepage looks awful too, it no longer looks like professional bible study software package but instead one for children. Added to the fact it’s incompete and we are being told we have to wait for a future update before we can remove all the marketing fluff from it, it does not give a good first chance impression of the software.
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doc said:
I have to agree L8 home page is awful. Never liked the web app and now the desktop homepage looks awful too, it no longer looks like professional bible study software package but instead one for children. Added to the fact it’s incompete and we are being told we have to wait for a future update before we can remove all the marketing fluff from it, it does not give a good first chance impression of the software.
Honestly, if that is what you are judging all of L8 on I think you have severely missed the point. It's going to be fixed. It isn't fixed today. No sense going on and on about it, just move on.
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I remember when everyone hated the new iOS design back in 2012-13ish. It looked so different (aka, cheap, cartoon-y, etc) compared to what we were used to for 4-5 years. The new L8 design reminded me of that
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Logos/Verbum 8.1 will have an improved homepage, which I'm looking forward to.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Two constructive suggestions if you don't like the new homepage look:
- "Show Program Settings" in the command bar, then under General / At Startup Open to, you can select a specific layout, or your most recent one.
- MJ cleverly suggested here that you can fill up the dashboard section with cards that are important to you, which will push the Explore section down (if that's what you don't want to see).
I'll admit that i've bypassed the home page since Logos 4: it was too busy and not useful enough (don't tell my boss!). But i'm giving it another try: I find the redesign around task cards genuinely useful. But you don't have to look at them if you have a different opinion.
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I'm with Sean, I haven't used the homepage in a long time. I load most recent layout. I think the value proposition is also linked to the colour and font. If you work on a mac then the darker themes have become the visual signal of a professional app. I look forward to Logos dark mode! I already swapped out the fonts for SBL biblit and open sans, loose spacing, dark grey background.
גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה
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Three negatives so far:
1) Home page is pretty bad. No way to clear out the junk and just peruse ONLY items that interest me. Cannot find out how to choose default Bible.
2)Clicking on Daily Bible reading plan jumps to a new layout rather than opening my Bible in my preferred layout to the correct readings.
3) Corresponding highlights from one translation to another is gone.
And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers (Mal 4:6a)
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John C Connell Jr. said:
Three negatives so far:
1) Home page is pretty bad. No way to clear out the junk and just peruse ONLY items that interest me. Cannot find out how to choose default Bible.
2)Clicking on Daily Bible reading plan jumps to a new layout rather than opening my Bible in my preferred layout to the correct readings.
3) Corresponding highlights from one translation to another is gone.
All three of these things are being addressed with the exception of maybe default Bible. For that, you can prioritize it in your library. https://wiki.logos.com/prioritizing
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Thanks for the reply David. The most irritating is the Bible Reading plan glitch. my layouts feature larger font and the default layout for reading a Bible Reading Plan has tiny font. It will be good to get control again.
Also, I really need to be in control of the default Bible and be able to change that. Prioritization works differently. The default works across platforms and had ramifications downstream.
And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers (Mal 4:6a)
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John C Connell Jr. said:
Thanks for the reply David. The most irritating is the Bible Reading plan glitch. my layouts feature larger font and the default layout for reading a Bible Reading Plan has tiny font. It will be good to get control again.
Also, I really need to be in control of the default Bible and be able to change that. Prioritization works differently. The default works across platforms and had ramifications downstream.
Perhaps I am confused, but how does prioritize do anything different than the default Bible? Prioritization is how you set your preferred (default) resources...
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David Taylor Jr said:John C Connell Jr. said:
Three negatives so far:
1) Home page is pretty bad. No way to clear out the junk and just peruse ONLY items that interest me. Cannot find out how to choose default Bible.
2)Clicking on Daily Bible reading plan jumps to a new layout rather than opening my Bible in my preferred layout to the correct readings.
3) Corresponding highlights from one translation to another is gone.
All three of these things are being addressed with the exception of maybe default Bible. For that, you can prioritize it in your library. https://wiki.logos.com/prioritizing
Can someone from Logos please confirm that these three items will be fixed in the next update 8.1?
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David Taylor Jr said:
Perhaps I am confused, but how does prioritize do anything different than the default Bible? Prioritization is how you set your preferred (default) resources...
The point that I think you are missing David is that prioritisation is seen as a more advanced feature whereas the Preferred/Default Bible was a very basic and easy to use. I suspect that many long term users rarely used the prioritisation feature while everyone would have set the Preferred/Default Bible at least once.
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Lynden Williams said:
Uninstall eight and down load seven. You may have to ask logos to block your account from receiving 8 until you are ready for it, otherwise it will simply update
Has anyone confirmed that this approach would work for someone who wants to go back to 7 while the initial flaws in 8 are fixed?
Obvious issues I can think of are:
- Notes format has been updated
- Automatic updates probably needs to be turned off
- Other changes in the data that is synched
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Graham Owen said:David Taylor Jr said:
Perhaps I am confused, but how does prioritize do anything different than the default Bible? Prioritization is how you set your preferred (default) resources...
The point that I think you are missing David is that prioritisation is seen as a more advanced feature whereas the Preferred/Default Bible was a very basic and easy to use. I suspect that many long term users rarely used the prioritisation feature while everyone would have set the Preferred/Default Bible at least once.
I actually disagree. Prioritization has been in the getting started with logos videos since at least L5. It is one of the first things a new user of Logos should learn if they actually use the getting started tutorials. It's also early on in the help file. So I would hardly say that prioritization itself is an advanced feature. Now, there are strategies for prioritization that are advanced, but not prioritizing resources themselves.
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David Taylor Jr said:doc said:I have to agree L8 home page is awful. Never liked the web app and now the desktop homepage looks awful too, it no longer looks like professional bible study software package but instead one for children. Added to the fact it’s incompete and we are being told we have to wait for a future update before we can remove all the marketing fluff from it, it does not give a good first chance impression of the software.
Honestly, if that is what you are judging all of L8 on I think you have severely missed the point. It's going to be fixed. It isn't fixed today. No sense going on and on about it, just move on.
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