Creating/Using Collections

I hope this question doesn't sound too simpleton.....I basically use logos to study and have commentaries up to follow along. I will look up a word using strong's every so often. I like to see all of the commentaries and books that reference the word/passage, verse I am reading. Don't the various guides do all of this and if I choose a few favorite commentaries that come up in my study layout, is there a reason to create collections? I am trying to learn about them but it seems logos has all the standard setups there already to search all of the related resources based on the text I have pulled up. That's it!! Hope that makes sense!!

Thank you!!!

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Bruce Dunning

Collections are especially useful for searching when you want to narrow down your results.

https://wiki.logos.com/Collections

Robert S Stramski

Hi Bruce,

Thank you for the wiki link! I never think about looking there. I wonder if there is a way to sort the library by tradition? For instance.....having the ultimate collection and sorting resources by the tradition under which they are sold. Any ideas on how to do that? Or if it is even possible? Thank you again.

Robert

Bruce Dunning

I wonder if there is a way to sort the library by tradition?

I accomplish this by using "My Tags" for all of my resources - See screenshot below for samples.

Robert S Stramski

Okay....I will look at wiki and learn about tags. Haven't even investigated those yet. Thank you so much for being so kind and helping!!

Robert

Mark Smith

is there a reason to create collections

Beside the advantage in searching that Bruce mentioned I use collections in some other ways. In the Guides you can add a collection section (or multiple ones) and have the results of that collection searched and displayed in the guide. For example, I have organized my commentaries somewhat after the suggestion made by MVP Mark Barnes and have a special Passage Guide composed of nothing but collections of commentaries: advanced, intermediate, expository, homiletical, etc. I can run this guide on a passage and then home in on the types of commentaries I want to look at.

Another place I use collections in in the parallel resources tool. In setting up a collection you can choose to have it appear in that tool when the data type in the tool would be identical and the current resource is in the collection. So I have a smaller selection of Greek lexicons that displays along with the list of all my Greek lexicons Logos creates on its own and I can use that shorter list to find what I want more quickly (prioritizing helps do this, too, but I've limited my prioritized lexicons to five, so it only helps that much). I've chosen to have two of the above mentioned commentary collections show up as parallel resources to speed up locating commentaries of the types I use most often. I don't use all my collections this way, but I do this with some of them.

A third way I use collections is to organize my resources by subject so I can find the books on a given subject that I'm interested in. To some extent just using the search tools in Library can accomplish the same thing, but this depends on Faithlife's tagging which might not always be how I'd think about a subject. Bruce's use of tags allows him to do this.

Robert S Stramski

Thank you for all of that! Just talking with Bruce and now you going a little further with collections and tagging helps so much. I got bruces tagging list and I am going to spend some time on that and absorb how you seperate collections and figure my own system out. Thank you again! I understand the whole concept of collections much better now with tagging as well. Wasn’t even going to explore tagging. That was made easy too.

Robert

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

I like to see all of the commentaries and books that reference the word/passage, verse I am reading.

Personally have modified commentary titles => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/139386/890581.aspx#890581 that shows in Passage Guide

Keep Smiling [:)]

Robert S Stramski

I am getting so many good pieces of advice. Thank you for sharing that with me! I am enjoying this forum. I have so many commentaries - I am going to have to sit down and SLOWLY go through them.

Robert

Mark Barnes

I am getting so many good pieces of advice. Thank you for sharing that with me! I am enjoying this forum. I have so many commentaries - I am going to have to sit down and SLOWLY go through them.

Hi Robert,

I prefer to categorise my commentaries by the type of commentary it is (technical, devotional, historical, etc.). I've created collection rules for 12 such collections. You can copy my rules here. That allows me to create a custom passage guide like this:

I then use prioritisation to ensure that the commentaries I find most helpful end up at the top of the lists. Prioritisation is very personal, but by default, Logos prioritises an entire series at a time, so it would take you too long to at least prioritise a dozen of so commentary series that you particularly find useful.

Robert S Stramski

Thank you Mark.....something else that is a little confusing - if I add ONE commentary in a set (old or new testament) to a collection; or if I tag it; will it pick them all up if change books and passages? I know this is true with linking but does it apply here as well?

Robert

Robert S Stramski

I have another quick question that I will ask here unless it gets moved - Is there any harm in hiding resources I am never going to use? For example, apparatus(us) ha! I am starting to go through my library and have decided to move things out that I know I will never use. If another resource uses a resource I hide (I think I'm not supposed to hide datasets) will Logos still access that resource even though it is hidden?

Robert

MJ. Smith

Is there any harm in hiding resources I am never going to use?

No, Logos will not access a hidden access. There is no harm to the software but there may be great harm to the user. You are hiding information that you CURRENTLY don't use. You may even make sections of guides, Factbook, and workflow have no data or fail to work as intended. You keep yourself from being exposed to it and learning to use it. You stifle your own potential for growth.

Bruce Dunning

Is there any harm in hiding resources I am never going to use?

No, Logos will not access a hidden access. There is no harm to the software but there may be great harm to the user. You are hiding information that you CURRENTLY don't use. You may even make sections of guides, Factbook, and workflow have no data or fail to work as intended. You keep yourself from being exposed to it and learning to use it. You stifle your own potential for growth.

That is an excellent summary MJ.

Robert S Stramski

Yes! I agree!! I was talking along the line of resources in non-English language. I can’t read Greek or Hebrew and don’t plan on looking at those fragments of the s rolls and such. I didn’t see a need for those in the library. But now after that excellent response I am thinking twice!!

ronert