Creating/Using Collections
I hope this question doesn't sound too simpleton.....I basically use logos to study and have commentaries up to follow along. I will look up a word using strong's every so often. I like to see all of the commentaries and books that reference the word/passage, verse I am reading. Don't the various guides do all of this and if I choose a few favorite commentaries that come up in my study layout, is there a reason to create collections? I am trying to learn about them but it seems logos has all the standard setups there already to search all of the related resources based on the text I have pulled up. That's it!! Hope that makes sense!!
Thank you!!!
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Collections are especially useful for searching when you want to narrow down your results.
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Hi Bruce,
Thank you for the wiki link! I never think about looking there. I wonder if there is a way to sort the library by tradition? For instance.....having the ultimate collection and sorting resources by the tradition under which they are sold. Any ideas on how to do that? Or if it is even possible? Thank you again.
Robert
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Robert S Stramski said:
I wonder if there is a way to sort the library by tradition?
I accomplish this by using "My Tags" for all of my resources - See screenshot below for samples.
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Okay....I will look at wiki and learn about tags. Haven't even investigated those yet. Thank you so much for being so kind and helping!!
Robert
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If you would like to see what tags I currently use here is a document that lists them - 6457.Copy - My Tagging System for Logos.docx
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Thank you so much for that! I have been reading about them! You have really been doing that a while! I have the collectors edition and will probably get the ultimate this week. It might take a lifetime to tag them all! But.....it would definitely keep one busy and out of trouble! Thank you again Bruce. You have been an amazing help to me.
Robert
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Robert S Stramski said:
is there a reason to create collections
Beside the advantage in searching that Bruce mentioned I use collections in some other ways. In the Guides you can add a collection section (or multiple ones) and have the results of that collection searched and displayed in the guide. For example, I have organized my commentaries somewhat after the suggestion made by MVP Mark Barnes and have a special Passage Guide composed of nothing but collections of commentaries: advanced, intermediate, expository, homiletical, etc. I can run this guide on a passage and then home in on the types of commentaries I want to look at.
Another place I use collections in in the parallel resources tool. In setting up a collection you can choose to have it appear in that tool when the data type in the tool would be identical and the current resource is in the collection. So I have a smaller selection of Greek lexicons that displays along with the list of all my Greek lexicons Logos creates on its own and I can use that shorter list to find what I want more quickly (prioritizing helps do this, too, but I've limited my prioritized lexicons to five, so it only helps that much). I've chosen to have two of the above mentioned commentary collections show up as parallel resources to speed up locating commentaries of the types I use most often. I don't use all my collections this way, but I do this with some of them.
A third way I use collections is to organize my resources by subject so I can find the books on a given subject that I'm interested in. To some extent just using the search tools in Library can accomplish the same thing, but this depends on Faithlife's tagging which might not always be how I'd think about a subject. Bruce's use of tags allows him to do this.
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Thank you for all of that! Just talking with Bruce and now you going a little further with collections and tagging helps so much. I got bruces tagging list and I am going to spend some time on that and absorb how you seperate collections and figure my own system out. Thank you again! I understand the whole concept of collections much better now with tagging as well. Wasn’t even going to explore tagging. That was made easy too.
Robert
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Robert S Stramski said:
Thank you so much for that!
Glad to help Robert.
Robert S Stramski said:It might take a lifetime to tag them all!
Yes, it has taken me a long time to tag every resource but I have found the process has been as rewarding as the end result. By taking time to pause and look at each resource I become a bit more familiar with my library. I often open resources and take time to scan the table of contents etc. Also, if the resource interests me I tag it with the type of book I want to read. I'm sure you will not regret doing it.
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Recently purchased the Ultimate Collection and I am a little overwhelmed. I think your tagging method will help me to slow down and look at each title (here and there) and familiarize myself with them - at least enough to arrange them in some collection forms.
Robert
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Robert S Stramski said:
Recently purchased the Ultimate Collection and I am a little overwhelmed.
You are blessed!
Robert S Stramski said:I think your tagging method will help me to slow down and look at each title (here and there) and familiarize myself with them
Enjoy the journey!
And be sure to return to the forums often.
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Robert S Stramski said:
I like to see all of the commentaries and books that reference the word/passage, verse I am reading.
Personally have modified commentary titles => https://community.logos.com/forums/p/139386/890581.aspx#890581 that shows in Passage Guide
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I am getting so many good pieces of advice. Thank you for sharing that with me! I am enjoying this forum. I have so many commentaries - I am going to have to sit down and SLOWLY go through them.
Robert
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Robert S Stramski said:
I am getting so many good pieces of advice. Thank you for sharing that with me! I am enjoying this forum. I have so many commentaries - I am going to have to sit down and SLOWLY go through them.
Hi Robert,
I prefer to categorise my commentaries by the type of commentary it is (technical, devotional, historical, etc.). I've created collection rules for 12 such collections. You can copy my rules here. That allows me to create a custom passage guide like this:
I then use prioritisation to ensure that the commentaries I find most helpful end up at the top of the lists. Prioritisation is very personal, but by default, Logos prioritises an entire series at a time, so it would take you too long to at least prioritise a dozen of so commentary series that you particularly find useful.
This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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Thank you Mark.....something else that is a little confusing - if I add ONE commentary in a set (old or new testament) to a collection; or if I tag it; will it pick them all up if change books and passages? I know this is true with linking but does it apply here as well?
Robert
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And what is an "intermediate" commentary"? I know I'm showing my ignorance but I might as well get it all out front. Ha!
Robert
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Robert S Stramski said:
Thank you Mark.....something else that is a little confusing - if I add ONE commentary in a set (old or new testament) to a collection; or if I tag it; will it pick them all up if change books and passages? I know this is true with linking but does it apply here as well?
Robert
If you are referring to 'Prioritising' series in the library, Robert, then this line from the Logos Help document might help.
'Note: when dragging a resource that is part of a series, the whole series will be added. To prioritize a single resource from a series, use the right-click method above instead.'
Logos Help. (2018). Bellingham, WA: Faithlife.
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Okay....and with tagging (I know it doesn't prioritize, etc....) only the single book you tag will be "pulled in or used". Is that right? Tagging is book specific?
Robert
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Robert S Stramski said:
Okay....and with tagging (I know it doesn't prioritize, etc....) only the single book you tag will be "pulled in or used". Is that right? Tagging is book specific?
Robert
I am pretty sure you are right.
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Mike
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Robert S Stramski said:
Thank you Mark.....something else that is a little confusing - if I add ONE commentary in a set (old or new testament) to a collection; or if I tag it; will it pick them all up if change books and passages? I know this is true with linking but does it apply here as well?
Tags: You need to tag every book in the series.
Collections: You either need to manually drag every book in the series into the collection, or specify the name of the series in the rule (e.g. {Series "3:16 Bible Commentary Series"}).
Prioritisation: When you drag a book into prioritisation, it defaults to adding the series, not the individual resource, although as Mike says, you can change that on a case-by-case basis, as you wish.
Robert S Stramski said:And what is an "intermediate" commentary"? I know I'm showing my ignorance but I might as well get it all out front. Ha!
I define all my terms in the long post I linked to. Specifically:
Typically, intermediate commentaries will discuss the meaning of the Bible text, in a serious but not overly-academic way. If they discuss Greek and Hebrew words, those words will be transliterated, and there will be little grammatical analysis. They may acknowledge different interpretations of a passage, but probably only in footnotes. There may be some application for the contemporary church, but that won’t be a main emphasis.
This is my personal Faithlife account. On 1 March 2022, I started working for Faithlife, and have a new 'official' user account. Posts on this account shouldn't be taken as official Faithlife views!
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I have another quick question that I will ask here unless it gets moved - Is there any harm in hiding resources I am never going to use? For example, apparatus(us) ha! I am starting to go through my library and have decided to move things out that I know I will never use. If another resource uses a resource I hide (I think I'm not supposed to hide datasets) will Logos still access that resource even though it is hidden?
Robert
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Robert S Stramski said:
Is there any harm in hiding resources I am never going to use?
No, Logos will not access a hidden access. There is no harm to the software but there may be great harm to the user. You are hiding information that you CURRENTLY don't use. You may even make sections of guides, Factbook, and workflow have no data or fail to work as intended. You keep yourself from being exposed to it and learning to use it. You stifle your own potential for growth.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:Robert S Stramski said:
Is there any harm in hiding resources I am never going to use?
No, Logos will not access a hidden access. There is no harm to the software but there may be great harm to the user. You are hiding information that you CURRENTLY don't use. You may even make sections of guides, Factbook, and workflow have no data or fail to work as intended. You keep yourself from being exposed to it and learning to use it. You stifle your own potential for growth.
That is an excellent summary MJ.
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Yes! I agree!! I was talking along the line of resources in non-English language. I can’t read Greek or Hebrew and don’t plan on looking at those fragments of the s rolls and such. I didn’t see a need for those in the library. But now after that excellent response I am thinking twice!!
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