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I'm looking forward to seeing how this develops.
Wonderful, I'm super excited about this!!
Got a bunch of resources in my MJ Silver Base Package ððð Looking forward to reading some of the books included on the Messianic Jewish movement.
DAL
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I'm really glad to see Logos has finally made Messianic Jewish base packages, but can you imagine a Catholic or Eastern Orthodox base package with reformation theology products within them?
I was quite disappointed to see so much reformation theology books. Messianic Jewish faith is based on:
1) Early Christianity and early Judaism
2) Archeology and historical records.
3) A VERY strong emphasis on the Hebrew language as was documented by the church fathers.
4) Targums and other ancient religious literature.
yes. I think Calvin's Institutes were part of all Catholic (=Verbum) base packages since inception up unto Logos 6 or 7 (currently it seems they are not).
Thanks for the reply. I do appreciate it.
It's just that Messianic faith like Eastern Orthodoxy, has quite a very different stance on issues like salvation, truly abiding in the Messiah and that it is possible to lose one's standing like Demas, Paul's co-worker, who forsook the Lord for the pleasures of the world.
When there's so many good Messianic resources in Logos' library, I was just disappointed not seeing them, but lots of reformation books in the Messianic base package...
I was quite disappointed to see so much reformation theology books
Goodness! Bad humor, but maybe either (a) they renamed a reformation package from years back, or (b) are wanting MJ's to reform. Â It does sound quite disappointing. Maybe that's why all the reform Logosians were so excited?
Greeting DAL, and other posters of this thread.
DAL, hope you do not mind using your post to have some questions posted, as the thread originator does not have a reply button.
First question (anyone's input welcome): Â What is the best way to have a collection with all the MJ resources included for searching? Do I have to tag each resource, or just write in the rule box "Messianic Jew", "Messianic Judaism"?
Or is there a MJ package collection somewhere in FL group?
Another question: Do you know of any resource that compares the Evangelical worldview to the "largest MJ group" worldview?
Quickly browsing the net I see that there are many groups within MJ, and they have different views on different topics.
Some topics I would like to see compared:
In general what is the most common view of MJ about creation? and how does it compares to that of evangelicals?
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Trinity: Some bible studying believers think that is wrong to refer to God and His Hypostasis as "persons", because God is way above and beyond our contextual understanding of person.
What is MJ view on God's Hypostasis (Divine Substantive Realities) that are perceived by us as persons, because of our limited ontological status?
Sovereignty of God and free will: some believers think that because God could in His omniscience foresee what each creature would do with his / her free will, He was able to assign a Wheat or Tare status to each respecting what was the leaning in the heart: was the person after being created use free will to accept God as Lord and Savior, and accept the adopted children status or not.
What would be MJ view on this? How in their view one person gets to be Wheat or Tare?
Deification (Theosis): Being a living stone part of the New Temple of God (body of Christ), does not mean that that living stone is the Spirit that indwells such New Temple. Thus true sheep of God know that creatures will never have self-existence (aseity), as that is a non-communicable attribute of God, and precisely what makes Him worthy of Worship. Â We will always depend on Him for our continued existence because we are creatures.
What is MJ view on this?
Entrance into the New Covenant: just as there were pre requisites set by God to enter the OT, the New Covenant has its own God set pre requisites:
Read / Hear, understand, repent, confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior (accept Him and His sacrifice for us for salvation), baptize as per Acts 2:38, receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit, walk humbly with your God doing as He tells you: good works in gratitude for a freely bestowed salvation, not to be saved by such works.
Without the prerequisites done, and the gift of the Holy Spirit who is our seal, one remains in the foolish virgin category liable to go through the tribulation, while those that comply with the prerequisites and have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, are to be raptured to the supper of the wedding of the Lamb.
Many MJ are of a charismatic leaning, but what is their take about the rapture?
Authority in the Church: God is the ultimate authority on His church. The Holy Spirit communicates who He wants, for what purpose, and other details. Â Man made choices are usually not in accordance to God's will.
What is the take MJ have on this important matter?
Healing and miracles: true believers know that the miracle worker has always been Jesus Christ, and as He makes Himself present in services (as promised, to be with us to the end), He continues to do good because God is good and his h: heed is forever (not until the closing of the Canon).
Do many MJ agree with the above?
There are a myriad other important topics, so that takes us to a key question: is there a MJ Systematic Theology?
I assume that MJ and other posters are very interested in the topics above, remember I write to obtain information on their worldview, and not to start polemics. Â The main aim is to promote further research, reflection and constructive and appropriate comment.
Thanks ahead of time for useful input.
Peace and grace. Shalom.
