Resource Type Change: Bible Notes to Study Bible

Kyle G. Anderson
Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,233
edited November 2024 in English Forum

On Tuesday, September 17th we're going to change the following titles resource type from Bible Notes to Study Bible.

This will affect collections. We recommend creating a new Resource collection with the filter type:Study Bible

Andrews Study Bible Notes (en)
Apostolic Study Bible: King James Version: Notes (en)
Believer’s Study Bible (en)
Biblia de Estudio - LBLA (en) | Biblia de Estudio - LBLA (es)
Biblia de estudio MacArthur (es)
Biblia del diario vivir (en) | Biblia Del Diario Vivir (es) | Biblia del diario vivir (es)
Biblia Plenitud (en) | Biblia Plenitud (es)
Concordia Self-Study Bible (en)
CSB Apologetics Study Bible (en)
CSB Disciple’s Study Bible: Notes (en)
CSB Study Bible: Notes (en)
ESV Global Study Bible (en)
ESV Systematic Theology Study Bible: Notes (en)
Faithlife Study Bible (en)
Gospel Transformation Bible: English Standard Version (en)
King James Version Study Bible (en)
MacArthur Study Bible NASB (en)
New Living Translation Study Bible (en)
New Spirit-Filled Life Bible: Notes (en)
NIV Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible: Bringing to Life the Ancient World of Scripture (en)
NIV Zondervan Study Bible: Built on the Truth of Scripture and Centered on the Gospel Message (en) | NIV Study Bible (en) | Bible. English. New International. 2011. (en)
Nuevo Comentario Ilustrado de La Biblia (en) | Nuevo Comentario Ilustrado de La Biblia (es)
Ryrie Study Bible Expanded Edition: King James Version (en)
Ryrie Study Bible Expanded Edition: New American Standard Bible, 1995 Update (en)
Ryrie Study Bible Expanded Edition: New International Version (en)
Sagrada Biblia, traducida y comentada por Mons. Straubinger, revisión 2014: Notas (es)
Spirit Filled Life Bible For Students (en) | Bible. English. New King James. 1995. (en)
Spirit Filled Life Study Bible (en)
The Apocrypha: The Lutheran Edition: Notes (en)
The Apologetics Study Bible for Students (en) | CSB Apologetics Study Bible for Students (en)
The Apologetics Study Bible: Real Questions, Straight Answers, Stronger Faith (en)
The Catholic Study Bible, 2nd ed.: Notes (en)
The Complete Jewish Study Bible: Notes (en)
The ESV Study Bible (en) | English Standard Version Study Bible (en)
The Evidence Bible: Irrefutable Evidence for the Thinking Mind, Notes (en)
The Expositor’s Study Bible (en) | Bible. English. Authorized. 2005. (en)
The Ignatius Catholic Study Bible: The New Testament (en)
The Jewish Study Bible (en)
The Life Principles Bible (en)
The Lucado Life Lessons Study Bible (en)
The Lutheran Study Bible (Notes) (en)
The MacArthur Study Bible (en) | Bible New King James [computer file] English. (en)
The Nelson Study Bible: New King James Version (en) | Bible. English. New King James. (en)
The NKJV Study Bible (en)
The Numerical Bible, Vol. 4: Ezekiel (Study Text) (en)
The Reformation Heritage KJV Study Bible (en)
The Reformation Study Bible (en)
The Reformation Study Bible: English Standard Version (2015 Edition) (en)
The Reformation Study Bible: English Standard Version (en)
The Revival Study Bible (en)
The Scofield Reference Bible: The Holy Bible Containing the Old and New Testaments (en)
The Spurgeon Study Bible: Notes (en)
The Woman’s Study Bible (en)
Word in Life Study Bible (en)
中文新标点和合本研读本圣经(神版)—创世记(简体) (zh-Hans) | Chinese CUNP Study Bible (Shen Edition)— Genesis (Simplified Chinese) (en)
中文新标点和合本研读本圣经(神版)—路得记(简体) (zh-Hans) | Chinese CUNP Study Bible (Shen Edition)—Ruth (Simplified Chinese) (en)
中文新標點和合本研讀本聖經(神版)—創世記(繁體) (zh-Hant) | Chinese CUNP Study Bible (Shen Edition)— Genesis (Traditional Chinese) (en)
中文新標點和合本研讀本聖經(神版)—加拉太書(繁體) (zh-Hant) | Chinese CUNP Study Bible (Shen Edition)— Galatians (Traditional Chinese) (en)
中文新標點和合本研讀本聖經(神版)—提摩太前後書/提多書(繁體) (zh-Hant) | Chinese CUNP Study Bible (Shen Edition)— 1, 2 Timothy/Titus (Traditional Chinese) (en)
中文新標點和合本研讀本聖經(神版)—歌羅西書、腓利門書(繁體) (zh-Hant) | Chinese CUNP Study Bible (Shen Edition)—Colossians & Philemon (Traditional Chinese) (en)
中文新標點和合本研讀本聖經(神版)—約翰一二三書(繁體) (zh-Hant) | Chinese CUNP Study Bible (Shen Edition)— 1,2,3 John (Traditional Chinese) (en)
中文新標點和合本研讀本聖經(神版)—路得記 (繁體) (zh-Hant) | Chinese CUNP Study Bible (Shen Edition)—Ruth (Traditional Chinese) (en)
活學聖經--和合本修訂版 (新約) (繁體) (zh-Hant) | The Learning Bible–RCUV (New Testament) (Traditional Chinese) (en)

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,821

    Thanks for the heads up. Is Bible Notes being retired or repurposed?

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,233

    MJ. Smith said:

    Thanks for the heads up. Is Bible Notes being retired or repurposed?

    Repurposed. Notes will remain a resource type. We have about 50 titles that fall somewhere between a Study Bible and a Commentary and will remain as "Notes".

    If you can imagine a triangle between Study Bible, Commentary, and Apparatus, "Notes" will be titles that don't fall comfortably in any three categories but might have characteristics of all three. The key component is that they will be short "notes" on ranges of Bible Text.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,821

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,868

    On Tuesday, September 17th we're going to change the following titles resource type from Bible Notes to Study Bible.

    This will affect collections.

    I can change my collection rules NOW, but the change also affects the Commentaries section in Passage Guide, where Bible Notes are allowed. Study Bible should also be allowed, and that won't be accommodated by Sept 17 unless there is a service release for 8.7!? 

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,821

    but the change also affects the Commentaries section in Passage Guide, where Bible Notes are allowed.

    This may be a first, Dave. I'm a step ahead of you. [;)] The Little Rock Catholic Bible Study and the Orthodox Study Bible were released with type:Study Bible. They do appear in the Commentary Section.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,868

    MJ. Smith said:

    This may be a first, Dave. I'm a step ahead of you. Wink The Little Rock Catholic Bible Study and the Orthodox Study Bible were released with type:Study Bible. They do appear in the Commentary Section.

    It's more likely, that this is not the first time[:)]

    I have to wait for Sept 17.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭

    type:Study Bible

    You didn't use quotes. Are those no longer necessary for multi-word filters, or were they assumed?

    Eating a steady diet of government cheese, and living in a van down by the river.

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,233

    Doc B said:

    type:Study Bible

    You didn't use quotes. Are those no longer necessary for multi-word filters, or were they assumed?

    I didn't use quotes in my test and I got the expected results.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,046

    Doc B said:

    type:Study Bible

    You didn't use quotes. Are those no longer necessary for multi-word filters, or were they assumed?

    I didn't use quotes in my test and I got the expected results.

    that's because type:study will hit for type "study bible" and - currently! - for no other type. The filter actually asks for type:study AND bible, where bible could be anywhere in the metadata, including the type field, where it will be present for all type "study bible" resources. Thus the second part of the filter is redundant and is not restricting the results. Type:study would be equivalent in the current setup of things, but in order to teach people to do it right every time and to understand what they are doing, I'd advise using type:"study bible"   

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,046

    This will affect collections. We recommend creating a new Resource collection

    this may or may be not necessary (where I could run Logos against a collection, I think I can run it against an ad-hoc collection of type:"study bible" as well.

    What some users may need is to check whether they us the former type:"bible notes" in existing collections. It would be nice if we could just export the rules of all our collections to someplace.... Lacking that, I remembered that Logos is evaluating our collection rules at startup (and it seems: quite often afterwards, too), thus I opened logos.log with an editor and just searched for bible notes

    Several lines like this came up:

    ... LibraryCatalog (527ms, exceeded 250ms) Searching for all records matching: ("biblical theology" OR "theology of the ??? testament") -type:("Media", "Bible Notes", "bible commentary")

    which shows I have a collection rule that seeks to fish (with a broad net) for Biblical Theology resources, excluding commentaries, study bibles/notes and media. This gave me enough information to guess at the title of the collection, then opening and editing it to now exclude type "study bible" as well.   

    Just thought I'd give this example if people were wondering "what to do with the information in this thread?"

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,997

    NB.Mick said:

    Searching for all records matching: ("biblical theology" OR "theology of the ??? testament") -type:("Media", "Bible Notes", "bible commentary")

    "theology of the ??? testament" is a very inefficient (but clever!) way to find "new" or "old". You may be able to speed up the performance of your collections by changing to:

    ("biblical theology" OR "theology of the new testament" OR "theology of the old testament")

    Or you can use the (very little known) feature of the Logos search engine that the comma operator is supported inside phrases:

    "theology of the (new,old) testament"

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,046

    "theology of the ??? testament" ... clever!

    I don't recall very clearly, but I think I copied this neat idea from Mr. Mark Barnes some time ago.

    you can use the (very little known) feature of the Logos search engine that the comma operator is supported inside phrases:

    "theology of the (new,old) testament"

    this is nice and totally unexpected - someone should go ahead and document it in the wiki

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,868

    NB.Mick said:

    someone should go ahead and document it in the wiki

    Done

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,233

    I've pushed out the update and the Resource Types of the titles listed above have been changed to Study Bible.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,821

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Mattillo
    Mattillo Member Posts: 6,128 ✭✭✭✭

    Kyle

     After this update, the card on my iOS app changed. This was the Bible and study bible card. It used to default to my bible and the MacArthur study bible but now it defaults to the  Unger bible handbook. 

    is there something I need to change?

  • Joe McCune (Faithlife)
    Joe McCune (Faithlife) Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 1,193

    Mattillo said:

     After this update, the card on my iOS app changed. This was the Bible and study bible card. It used to default to my bible and the MacArthur study bible but now it defaults to the  Unger bible handbook. 

    This is a bug that will be fixed in a future update.  In the meantime, you could perhaps create a split screen with both your Bible and the MacArthur Study Bible linked together.

  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,040

    Will this new Study Bible tag affect the collections in the Collection rules for sorting commentaries (updated for Logos 8 Base Packages) by Mark Barnes?

    It has the rule for "Study Guide Commentaries" in:

    https://community.logos.com/forums/t/88829.aspx?PageIndex=1 

    Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,868

    Will this new Study Bible tag affect the collections in the Collection rules for sorting commentaries (updated for Logos 8 Base Packages) by Mark Barnes?

    It has the rule for "Study Guide Commentaries" in:

    "Study Guide Commentaries" could be affected if future releases are type:study-bible. "Textual Commentaries" could be affected as it includes type:bible-notes; some of which were converted to type:study-bible. If you think that some resources are not included, tag them according to the MyTag value in each collection rule.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,040

    Thanks Dave!

    There seems to be several good solutions available.

    I also made a layout with Study Bibles, useful when preparing for small Bible study group discussions.

    Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11