Updated edition in pre-pub.
https://www.logos.com/product/190507/systematic-theology-second-edition-an-introduction-to-biblical-doctrine
I preordered since it has a lot of new content 👍😁👌
DAL
I was going to pre-order a dead tree version to but Amazon doesn't even have that up so Kudos to Logos for being ahead of the game. In fairness, Amazon is allowing preorders of the Kindle version
Michael Bird also has an updated edition of his Evangelical Theology coming out in October. Whilst Wayne Grudem's update is for a book that has been out many years and seems to have many updates, Michael Bird's book has only been out around 8 years and I haven't been able to see whether it's more of a minor update. Does anyone know any more?
I have the original in another software and wouldn't wish to buy the updated one if it's virtually the same as the original. Given how recent the original is, I suspect it may not be a significant update. The page count is only 8 pages more, which could just be an updated bibliography. I haven't found anything online that helps.
https://www.logos.com/product/190416/evangelical-theology-second-edition-a-biblical-and-systematic-introduction
From his patheos blog https://www.patheos.com/blogs/euangelion/2019/01/my-publishing-pipeline-for-2019-20/
Evangelical Theology second edition, I’ve had so much good feedback on this volume, so hopefully I’ve made a good thing even better. I’ve cut out and condensed a lot of material. More on the nature of theology, Trinity, kingdom-through-covenant, and multi-site churches. Plus more interaction with female and global scholars. And lots and lots of gospelizing.
Michael Bird also has an updated edition of his Evangelical Theology coming out in October. Whilst Wayne Grudem's update is for a book that has been out many years and seems to have many updates, Michael Bird's book has only been out around 8 years and I haven't been able to see whether it's more of a minor update. Does anyone know any more? Thanks. That's very useful. I'm not sure the pre-pub discount is high enough to tempt me know, but it sounds as though it might be worth getting with a birthday voucher. From his patheos blog https://www.patheos.com/blogs/euangelion/2019/01/my-publishing-pipeline-for-2019-20/ Evangelical Theology second edition, I’ve had so much good feedback on this volume, so hopefully I’ve made a good thing even better. I’ve cut out and condensed a lot of material. More on the nature of theology, Trinity, kingdom-through-covenant, and multi-site churches. Plus more interaction with female and global scholars. And lots and lots of gospelizing.
Thanks. That's very useful. I'm not sure the pre-pub discount is high enough to tempt me know, but it sounds as though it might be worth getting with a birthday voucher.
Is their a modern evangelical systematic theology text book that:
I don't believe Erickson, Horton or Frame meet the above criteria. I suspect Bird might fit the criteria, but I haven't read his systematic theology. I believe Erickson might be close - possibly weak on gifts if I understand correctly.
Is their a modern evangelical systematic theology text book that: Like Grudem is Calvinistic in terms of salvation and Continuationist in terms of gifts But which is Egalitarian in terms of Male/Female leadership.
I think the Renewal Theology: Systematic Theology from a Charismatic Perspective by J. Rodman Williams might fit the bill.
https://www.logos.com/product/177271/renewal-theology-systematic-theology-from-a-charismatic-perspective
Renewal Theology deals with the full range of Christian truth from within the charismatic tradition. Previously published as three separate volumes, Renewal Theology represents the first exhaustive, balanced articulation of charismatic theology. Renewal Theology discusses: Book One—God, the World, and Redemption—Book Two—Salvation, the Holy Spirit, and Christian Living—Book Three—The Church, the Kingdom, and Last Things. As theology, this work is an intellectual achievement. But it is much more than that. The author urges the church to undertake its task of theology in the proper spirit:—an attitude of prayer—a deepening sense of reverence—an ever-increasing purity of heart—a spirit of growing love—a theological approach rooted in the glory of God. Done in such a spirit, theology becomes a faithful and powerful witness to the living God.
An unabridged one-volume edition of the three volume Renewal Theology, this text explains the proper spirit needed for the church to approach theology and to successfully arrive at an understanding of its faith.
I really hope Faithlife makes this a type:Systematic Theology and not a monograph.
"Updated, fuller analysis of several recent controversies within evangelicalism, including the eternal relationship between the Father and the Son in the Trinity"
Has he changed his mind on eternal subordination??
"Updated, fuller analysis of several recent controversies within evangelicalism, including the eternal relationship between the Father and the Son in the Trinity" Has he changed his mind on eternal subordination??
I’m not sure if it was him or MacArthur that changed his view on that particular subject.
Grudem has changed his mind on eternal generation, but still teaches subordination.
I've just listened to Mobile Ed: TH361 Perspectives on the Trinity: Eternal Generation and Subordination in Tension where Grudem expounds his revised thinking - alongside Kevin Giles, Millard J. Erickson, Fred Sanders and Bruce Ware.
I know this subject generates a lot of heat, but whilst some take a very firm line, I felt they were all trying to stay true to the Bible and they all agree on the fundamentals of salvation. Equally they all believe in Father, Son and Holy Spirit being equally and fully God. It gave me a new respect for nuanced differences of opinion on this area - especially as the Trinity is one of the biggest mysteries of the Christian faith.
Is their a modern evangelical systematic theology text book that: Like Grudem is Calvinistic in terms of salvation and Continuationist in terms of gifts But which is Egalitarian in terms of Male/Female leadership. I think the Renewal Theology: Systematic Theology from a Charismatic Perspective by J. Rodman Williams might fit the bill. https://www.logos.com/product/177271/renewal-theology-systematic-theology-from-a-charismatic-perspective Renewal Theology deals with the full range of Christian truth from within the charismatic tradition. Previously published as three separate volumes, Renewal Theology represents the first exhaustive, balanced articulation of charismatic theology. Renewal Theology discusses: Book One—God, the World, and Redemption—Book Two—Salvation, the Holy Spirit, and Christian Living—Book Three—The Church, the Kingdom, and Last Things. As theology, this work is an intellectual achievement. But it is much more than that. The author urges the church to undertake its task of theology in the proper spirit:—an attitude of prayer—a deepening sense of reverence—an ever-increasing purity of heart—a spirit of growing love—a theological approach rooted in the glory of God. Done in such a spirit, theology becomes a faithful and powerful witness to the living God. An unabridged one-volume edition of the three volume Renewal Theology, this text explains the proper spirit needed for the church to approach theology and to successfully arrive at an understanding of its faith.
Thanks Ted. I have heard good things about this book. A bit outside my budget but have put in my wishlist in case it goes on sale.
I am looking forward to the new Grudem volume.
A book I'd to love to see in Logos is The Plan and Purpose of God by Dr Michael Eaton. His "No Condemnation" book is releasing out of pre-pub shortly. He would have seen Packer, Motyer and Lloyd-Jones as his mentors and teachers.
Michael Bird also has an updated edition of his Evangelical Theology coming out in October. Whilst Wayne Grudem's update is for a book that has been out many years and seems to have many updates, Michael Bird's book has only been out around 8 years and I haven't been able to see whether it's more of a minor update. Does anyone know any more? From his patheos blog https://www.patheos.com/blogs/euangelion/2019/01/my-publishing-pipeline-for-2019-20/ Evangelical Theology second edition, I’ve had so much good feedback on this volume, so hopefully I’ve made a good thing even better. I’ve cut out and condensed a lot of material. More on the nature of theology, Trinity, kingdom-through-covenant, and multi-site churches. Plus more interaction with female and global scholars. And lots and lots of gospelizing.
Michael Bird in reply to a Tweet I sent him asking him how significant the update is tells me: "lots of new content, I cut out 50K and wrote a new 100K. New stuff on method, Trinity, salvation, humanity, and church. More diverse footnotes."
"Updated, fuller analysis of several recent controversies within evangelicalism, including the eternal relationship between the Father and the Son in the Trinity" Has he changed his mind on eternal subordination?? I’m not sure if it was him or MacArthur that changed his view on that particular subject. DAL
JMac
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/145869.aspx
Updated edition in pre-pub. https://www.logos.com/product/190507/systematic-theology-second-edition-an-introduction-to-biblical-doctrine
I'm hoping Logos will also offer the workbook for this as well
https://smile.amazon.com/Systematic-Theology-Workbook-Questions-Practical/dp/0310114071/
Hey Paul,
Thanks for the pointer, I was not aware of Eaton's Systematic. I am not sure when this will be available in Logos so amazon here I come.
Kind regards
Hey Paul, Thanks for the pointer, I was not aware of Eaton Systematic. I am not sure when this will be available in Logos so amazon here I come. Kind regards A book I'd to love to see in Logos is The Plan and Purpose of God by Dr Michael Eaton. His "No Condemnation" book is releasing out of pre-pub shortly. He would have seen Packer, Motyer and Lloyd-Jones as his mentors and teachers.
Thanks for the pointer, I was not aware of Eaton Systematic. I am not sure when this will be available in Logos so amazon here I come.
I had to buy my copy from South Africa. It's 3 A4 sized books! Not user friendly and won't even fit on my bookshelves.
You can listen to the talks on which the book was based.
https://www.michaeleaton.org/whole-counsel-of-god
Ah got you, thanks for the info
I had to buy my copy from South Africa. It's 3 A4 sized books! Not user friendly and won't even fit on my bookshelves. Ah got you, thanks for the info
Just edited my previous post. You can listen to the talks on which the book was based here:
I'm assuming from your profile picture an interest in Martyn Lloyd Jones and maybe Westminster Chapel. Did you used to hear Michael there?
Just edited my previous post. You can listen to the talks on which the book was based here: https://www.michaeleaton.org/whole-counsel-of-god I'm assuming from your profile picture an interest in Martyn Lloyd Jones and maybe Westminster Chapel. Did you used to hear Michael there?
Yes I head him in the school of theology when RT was the pastor. He was very encyclopedic in a good sense and a man on fire for God was my Impression of him.
Martyn Lloyd Jones is my favourite Preacher.
Just edited my previous post. You can listen to the talks on which the book was based here: https://www.michaeleaton.org/whole-counsel-of-god I'm assuming from your profile picture an interest in Martyn Lloyd Jones and maybe Westminster Chapel. Did you used to hear Michael there? Yes I head him in the school of theology when RT was the pastor. He was very encyclopedic in a good sense and a man on fire for God was my Impression of him. Martyn Lloyd Jones is my favourite Preacher.
Great. I used to go to the Chapel for the School of Theology too, plus the midweek lunchtime service. When possible I used to go to the Sunday evening service too. MLJ, RT and Michael Eaton are my favourite preachers. I have every RT and Michael book - except one published in India, although I nearly managed to get that one. Michael's last sermon was amazing. He almost literally died preaching.
https://www.logos.com/wayne-grudem-systematic-theology
Will I be able to keep the old version on Logos? I would like to be able to refer to the old page numbers. My paper copy of the original edition will be less useful if I can't get to the Logos version.
Yes. Once you own it, you own it! The new updated edition will be seen as a separate resource in your Logo's library. Please note that if you want the updated edition, you will need to pay for this resource as it is not a free update. Right now it is 20% off as a preorder.
