The Next Chapter in the EEC
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DAL said:Mattillo said:
They show on my mobile iOS devices but not my MAC
Check again! I double checked and the volume on James and the volume on Jude still have the old brown covers. Maybe James because of plagiarism, but Jude? Maybe an oversight. Oh well, the content is still there 👍😁👌
DAL
I just booted up the 'ole PC and still no updated cover images so a big negative for me on both desktops
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Just another update: Images still not updated on desktop
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Bump; still not showing new covers
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Still no covers.
Side note: Lexham is starting a new commentary set
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Mattillo said:
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Side note: Lexham is starting a new commentary set
Well, there goes another 160 bucks. But thanks for pointing this out, Matillo!
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I'm waiting to pull the trigger until we get closer. I'm also hoping Logos add the upcoming Commentary for Christian Formation series. NT Wright's Galatians is coming out first.
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SineNomine said:
Are any more EEC volumes going to come out within the next 18 months?
Are any more EEC volumes going to come out within the next 18 months?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Still no updated covers
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I purchased the EEC back in 2011 when it was originally available. I just looked at my invoice and it was advertised as 43 volumes. Now it is advertised as 44 volumes. This is just more of a curiosity for me and not a major issue, but I wonder what change was made.
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Are any new volumes scheduled for release soon?
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Ronald Quick said:
Are any new volumes scheduled for release soon?
I keep asking about releases in the next 18 months and not getting any replies.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Still no updated covers
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Unless I am missing something, there hasn't been an update in over 6 months on what volumes are scheduled to be released next.
I understand that these things happen slowly, but I think that there would be less frustration if there was more communication.
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Ronald Quick said:
Unless I am missing something, there hasn't been an update in over 6 months on what volumes are scheduled to be released next.
Yes. Nine months and counting, if I counted correctly.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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I think it is time for Logos to admit that this series has totally not been what it is suppose to have been and was promised to be. They need to give those who bought it before certain date a substantial credit for purchase of other materials. I bought this at the very beginning and cannot believe where this series stands. There comes a point where apologies ring hollow and corrective action needs to be taken.
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Jake Mailhot said:Mattillo said:
Jude is missing its artwork for some reason
Yes, Jude and a handful of other volumes are missing artwork. We have artwork selected and the covers should be updated soon.
The old cover artwork still appears as the icons in the listing of the volumes I currently have in Logos. Only the Amos, Jonah, and Micah volume has the new artwork for its icon.Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)
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At this rate I'll be 90 years old before it's complete. [8-|] On the other hand, at this rate I can read each volume as it's released, a goal I set but have not kept.Brad Bardin said:I think it is time for Logos to admit that this series has totally not been what it is suppose to have been and was promised to be. They need to give those who bought it before certain date a substantial credit for purchase of other materials. I bought this at the very beginning and cannot believe where this series stands. There comes a point where apologies ring hollow and corrective action needs to be taken.
I think the original stated projection for completion in the 2011 announcement when we all bought it for $699.99 was that it would take 7 years or so. At that time it could only be bought as a complete set, but later Logos made individual volumes available.
Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)
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Eric Weiss said:
On the other hand, at this rate I can read each volume as it's released, a goal I set but have not kept.
Don't worry about getting behind. I think you will have plenty of time to catch up. [:)]
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Eric Weiss said:Jake Mailhot said:Mattillo said:
Jude is missing its artwork for some reason
Yes, Jude and a handful of other volumes are missing artwork. We have artwork selected and the covers should be updated soon.
The old cover artwork still appears as the icons in the listing of the volumes I currently have in Logos. Only the Amos, Jonah, and Micah volume has the new artwork for its icon.This has been an issue for a while. There’s a bug somewhere
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Do we have any idea what the next volume will be released will be or when it will be available?
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I imagine that someone does. We just haven't been told yet.[:(]
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Jacob Sowles said:
Do we have any idea what the next volume will be released will be or when it will be available?
I, and I'm sure many others, also have this question. Faithlife, what is the latest status on the EEC?
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Jacob Sowles said:
Do we have any idea what the next volume will be released will be or when it will be available?
I'm going to boldly guess that nothing will be released until at least 2023. Maybe 2024 or later. I have no evidence for that guess whatsoever beyond personally having no evidence to the contrary.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Every time I see a new posting to this page my heart sinks at the money I paid out with so little return all these years. And I am frustrated that FL is developing other exciting commentary series' (like Biblical Theology) with so little feedback on this one. I am running out of time to benefit from this purchase in my own working life. I wouldn't mind if FL called it a day on the series and gave us a refund for the volumes not completed (or even assigned yet). If FL is still passionate about this series then quarterly updates on where we are might keep the guilt and disappointment at bay!
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Stephen McCracken said:
Every time I see a new posting to this page my heart sinks at the money I paid out with so little return all these years. And I am frustrated that FL is developing other exciting commentary series' (like Biblical Theology) with so little feedback on this one. I am running out of time to benefit from this purchase in my own working life. I wouldn't mind if FL called it a day on the series and gave us a refund for the volumes not completed (or even assigned yet). If FL is still passion about this series then quarterly updates on where we are might keep the guilt and disappointment at bay!
I hear you, same here. :-(
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I can’t say I’m on board with them cancelling the series, because I’ve found it to be excellent so far, and I would be very sad to see it discontinued when it’s barely been started. But I did not purchase the whole series in advance, and I can echo the other sentiments. I also wish they would be more transparent with details; based on the volumes I’ve read so far, it might be my favorite commentary series, and I find myself checking the forum every day for no other reason then to see if there is new information on the EEC.
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Jacob Sowles said:
I find myself checking the forum every day for no other reason then to see if there is new information on the EEC.
If you subscribe to this thread, you can get email notifications when there are new posts and thus save yourself time on days when there aren't any.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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The lack of progress and lack of communication in regard to this series is disappointing. But I would like to see it finished. I don’t regret signing up when it was first announced, I did not know then it would go the way it has gone. I hope FL are able to get it finished even if I have to wait another 10 years... just tell me what’s happening, even if there is nothing new to say. Just let us know you haven’t forgotten about it.
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It's been a year since the original post and covers in my desktop still are not updated. But since it's been a year can we get Faiithlife's thoughts on where the EEC is? Please start a new thread when you do.
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Matt Hamrick said:
It's been a year since the original post and covers in my desktop still are not updated.
Consider trying this: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-resource-updates
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:Matt Hamrick said:
It's been a year since the original post and covers in my desktop still are not updated.
Consider trying this: https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/logos-resource-updates
I shouldn't have to look at that. Faithlife changed the covers to EEC with new artwork and they should reflect on the desktop like the mobile device.
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Matt Hamrick said:
I shouldn't have to look at that.
And you don't have to. Nor did I ever write that you had to.
What I did do was suggest that you consider doing something that can be done within a few minutes that might well help you achieve your goal. What you do with that suggestion is entirely up to you.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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It's not a suggestion. Scroll up and Faithlife said the new artwork should be on the desktop.
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Stephen McCracken said:
And I am frustrated that FL is developing other exciting commentary series' (like Biblical Theology) with so little feedback on this one. I am running out of time to benefit from this purchase in my own working life. I wouldn't mind if FL called it a day on the series and gave us a refund for the volumes not completed (or even assigned yet).
Faithlife should totally give people who are tired of waiting around a refund or at least some store credit to purchase something else the actually exists. This is a really bad look for Faithlife.
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Kiyah said:
Faithlife should totally give people who are tired of waiting around
Every series I have preordered has taken at least twice as long as originally projected, one converted to from 50 to ongoing and it now over 100 volumes; one realized that one volume (in the middle of the series) would never be done and deleted it from the series . . . I've just subscribed to a new series and have 3 volumes in the time originally estimated ... all reprints so maybe this one will stay on schedule. You can join me in a series of catechisms if you like to share the anticipation.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I have really enjoyed the EEC thus far but like others just wish communication was better but at the same time I wonder if you would get that from another publisher. They did give EEC owners that Jeremiah volume for free so there is that but at the same time they make odd choices like not using the Jeremiah volume or canning James instead of revising it.
Let’s hope we will get an update someday though like the above it would be nice if the cover art was at least updated
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Not sure if the information here: https://lexhampress.com/product/7565/evangelical-exegetical-commentary Is correct or not, but assuming it is, then Joshua and 1&2 Chronicles are in review. Hopefully that means they should be coming relatively soon (hopefully early 2022?). Again, not sure if the information on that page is up to date or not.
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Jacob Sowles said:
Not sure if the information here: https://lexhampress.com/product/7565/evangelical-exegetical-commentary Is correct or not
Being upfront, I didn't subscribe. But looking at Jacob's page, looks like they only got the usual 'easy ones'. I'm surprised. I'm wondering what the appeal is (vs the other conservative commentaries). The sell-page says authors can go wild (digital; no limits). But I'd assume they'll need to go hardcopy to amortize their investment over time.
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They do have hardcover copies available. The appeal for the series is that the volumes that have been published are very good (at least all the ones that I have read have been, I would consider it my favorite commentary series). The issue is just that they are taking a while to produce0
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Faithlife - Can we please get an update on the series?
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Just to make things a little simpler to see where we are at, this is what the Logo's website shows:
What's available now:
Philemon (2011)
Ezra & Nehemiah (2011)
Lamentations (2011)
1, 2, & 3 John (2012)
Exodus (2012)
Esther (2013)
Song of Songs (2013)
1&2 Samuel (2015)
Ephesians (2015)
Jude (2015)
Philippians (2017)
Amos, Jonah, & Micah (2018)
Daniel (2020)
Forthcoming:
Publication Status: In Review with Series Editors
Joshua
1 & 2 Chronicles
Publication Status: In Writing
Leviticus
Ecclesiastes
Galatians
Publication Status: No Information
Genesis
Deuteronomy
Judges
Ruth
1 & 2 Kings
Job
Psalms
Proverbs
Isaiah
Ezekiel
Nahum, Habakkuk, & Zephaniah
Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi
Matthew
Mark
Luke
John
Acts
Romans
1 Corinthians
Colossians
1 & 2 Thessalonians
1 & 2 Timothy, Titus
Hebrews
James
1 Peter
2 Peter
Revelation
Publication Status: No Author Assigned
Numbers
Ruth
Jeremiah
Hosea, Joel, & Obadiah
Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi
2 Corinthians
I hope this post helps.
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Hello all,
I've got an update on a few volumes from our academic editor:
[quote]On the NT side, both Michael Burer (Galatians) and Buist Fanning (Hebrews) are close to submitting manuscripts. On the OT side, Richard Averbeck is supposed to submit his manuscript for Leviticus this fall. Additionally the OT editors are close to completing a review of both John Oswalt’s 1–2 Kings and Abner Chou’s Deuteronomy. That's in addition to Joshua and 1 & 2 Chronicles which were already in review with the OT editors.
All of these volumes still have to go through author revision and editorial review, and since that process is unique to each volume the timeline is difficult to predict. It's possible some of these volumes will be on the publication schedule for the second half of 2022. Lexham and the series editors are working diligently to get the manuscripts in great condition and out into the world.
Thanks for your continued patience and support for the series.
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Jake - Thanks for the update. [:)]
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I know absolutely nothing about publishing. So, I have a curiosity question about the process. After the author has completed their commentary and submitted it, what are the series editors doing when they review the author's work?
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