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  • Michael Skinner
    Michael Skinner Member Posts: 18

    Phil,

    How long will it take for my Wordsearch resources to merge into Logos?  I have been a user of both platforms over the years.  I'm considering some possible upgrades, but I want to wait until everything transfers.  I really can't make a clear decision on anything until my libraries merge.  Thanks for any help.

    Michael

  • Richard Ogg
    Richard Ogg Member Posts: 43

    CJ Walker said:

    Frequently, I used the WS IVS feature to run a search which pasted into a "Card File" in the software, how will these show up in Logos?

    I'm not familiar with the "Card File" feature. Is this Note Stacks, or something else?

    We're still planning how WS user-created documents will import into Logos, but Note Stacks will come in as Logos Notes.

    "Card File" and "Note Stacks" are different.

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,963

    "Card File" and "Note Stacks" are different.

    How do you access "Card File" in Wordsearch? Google isn't turning up any documentation on this feature for me.

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,963

    Thanks...I'm loving the new experience with Logos. In regards to not seeing everything transfer over, I noticed that my New Living Translation (NLT) Bible didn't transfer to Logos. Is this a license issue? I didn't see the NLT in https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration. Thanks.

    I'm not seeing NLT in your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm the version you have in Wordsearch by going to the Library, right-clicking on NLT, choose Properties, and copying the Book ID?

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,963

    How long will it take for my Wordsearch resources to merge into Logos?  I have been a user of both platforms over the years.  I'm considering some possible upgrades, but I want to wait until everything transfers.  I really can't make a clear decision on anything until my libraries merge.  Thanks for any help.

    It looks like we don't have your Wordsearch licenses yet; please check back on Monday.

  • Dan Winsby
    Dan Winsby Member Posts: 14

    This might have been mentioned already, and if so I apologize.

    I am wondering about the Complete Biblical Library, and if this will at some time make it to Logos, and for those that purchased it through Wordsearch. I notice that the commentary seems to be coming at some point. Wondering about the rest of the set.

    Thanks much

  • Roy
    Roy Member Posts: 965 ✭✭

    go here  https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration and search for "complete biblical library"

    you will see that the plan is to bring over the commentaries, the Greek/Hebrew dictionaries, and the OT/NT Study bibles.

    (It's a long list!)

  • Dr. CJ Walker
    Dr. CJ Walker Member Posts: 23

    I've noticed that the majority of resources so far have migrated only as monographs. Is there a plan to update any to Bible Commentary type? (e.g. Tony Evans Bible Commentary, Exalting Jesus Series, NAC Theology Series, etc.). Just wondering what to expect. It will determine how I tag them in the end as either non-versified or other.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,604

    CJ Walker said:

    I've noticed that the majority of resources so far have migrated only as monographs. Is there a plan to update any to Bible Commentary type? (e.g. Tony Evans Bible Commentary, Exalting Jesus Series, NAC Theology Series, etc.). Just wondering what to expect. It will determine how I tag them in the end as either non-versified or other.

    Bradley commented on that issue at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193800/1116903.aspx#1116903 

    So it looks as though conversion to fully tagged resources will happen but over time.

  • Graham Owen
    Graham Owen Member Posts: 254

    There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources" Smile. They're all Logos resources now.

    I thought there was a way to identify the individual licenses where we have multiple licenses for commonly bundled resources like the KJV. If this still exists as a concept would it not be possible to add a WordSearch identifier to the licenses generate on the merge so that this could be interrogated in the future?

  • Jay
    Jay Member Posts: 3

    I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account.  I have them in Wordsearch.  How do I get those in Logos?

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources" Smile. They're all Logos resources now.

    I thought there was a way to identify the individual licenses where we have multiple licenses for commonly bundled resources like the KJV. If this still exists as a concept would it not be possible to add a WordSearch identifier to the licenses generate on the merge so that this could be interrogated in the future?

    I think there would also be some real utility in simply tagging everything Wordsearch offered. Then users can filter by that 'Community Tag' or whatever and figure out by looking at Last Updated what came over from Wordsearch.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭

    Jay said:

    I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account.  I have them in Wordsearch.  How do I get those in Logos?

    They are moving things over. I believe that is a Bible translation already present in Logos. so it should come quickly. if not, shoot an email to customer service (or call them if you prefer) and they should take care of you.


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  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,963

    There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources" Smile. They're all Logos resources now.

    I thought there was a way to identify the individual licenses where we have multiple licenses for commonly bundled resources like the KJV. If this still exists as a concept would it not be possible to add a WordSearch identifier to the licenses generate on the merge so that this could be interrogated in the future?

    Yes, this would need to be calculated on a per-user basis. We currently have no plan to perform this (per-user) calculation and expose it through the licensing system to the application.

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,963

    Jay said:

    I seem to be missing the New Living Translation, Second Edition and the New International Version (not the Anglicised version) in my account.  I have them in Wordsearch.  How do I get those in Logos?

    I'm not seeing NLT in your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm the version you have in Wordsearch by going to the Library, right-clicking on NLT, choose Properties, and copying the Book ID?

    It looks like we didn't link up the NIV correctly; we will fix that soon.

  • Laura Johnson
    Laura Johnson Member Posts: 8

    I purchased Logos a few weeks ago when WS was struggling with their Mac software. I love all the features and Logos seems to have many wonderful study options, but the learning curve was steep and I ended up reverting back to WS and what was familiar.

    I am willing to put the time in to make this work but for now, can someone please tell me how to best use Strong's? In WS i could open the KJV, turn on #'s, and hover over a number to see a definition. Does Logos have this feature or do I have to open Strong's separately from the KJV? 

  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,381

    Hi Laura and welcome!

    Try this:

    Open your KJV and make sure it is the reverse interlinear that is tagged. You will know this if you hover over a word it will show you the original language information.

    Open your lexicon, Strongs Enhanced if that is what you have or want to use.

    Click on the three vertical dots on the far right and in the menu that opens click on Link Set A for both resource.

    Now if you click on a word in the KJV the Strongs (or other lexicon) entry will open. 

    To enhance this further you can open two other items:

    Under Guides you can open the Bible Word Study Guide and link it the same as above.

    Under tools you can open the information pane. 

    Here is a screen shot with all of them open and linked. Click on a work in the KJV and everything will link up.

  • Graham Owen
    Graham Owen Member Posts: 254

    There's "no such thing" as "Wordsearch resources" Smile. They're all Logos resources now.

    I thought there was a way to identify the individual licenses where we have multiple licenses for commonly bundled resources like the KJV. If this still exists as a concept would it not be possible to add a WordSearch identifier to the licenses generate on the merge so that this could be interrogated in the future?

    Yes, this would need to be calculated on a per-user basis. We currently have no plan to perform this (per-user) calculation and expose it through the licensing system to the application.

    From a personal perspective, the ability to track the origin of some licenses would be useful but not essential or a priority.

    But for context from memory, I don't have a lot of overlap and there are only a handful of resources that I own where I could potentially transfer the Logos license to someone else because I purchased it as an individual resource and now have a duplicate license from WordSearch.

    Out of interest does the transfer process not produce an output for each user process that could be shared as a CSV?

  • Bradley,

    The Book ID is 0:30. 

    New Living Translation, Second Edition
    Holy Bible, New Living Translation, copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. All rights reserved. Database © 2013 WORDsearch.

    Author:
    Prepared by: WORDsearch
    Version: 10
    Language: English
    Printed ISBN: 9780842384896
    Software ISBN:
    Category: Bibles
    CBP date: 4/16/2018 2:09:06 PM
    DAT date: 5/2/2013 2:12:06 PM
    Book ID: 0:30
    Path: C:\users\Public\Application Data\WORDsearch\Library\NLT2\

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,963

    The Book ID is 0:30. 

    New Living Translation, Second Edition
    Holy Bible, New Living Translation, copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. All rights reserved. Database © 2013 WORDsearch.

    Thanks; this is very helpful information!

  • Joey Midgett
    Joey Midgett Member Posts: 188 ✭✭

    Most but not all of my books have transferred into Logos. But my Perks subscription, it says to update my profile to renew this subscription, but when I click the link it brings me to my subscriptions page and only my Faithlife Connect Essentials is listed there. What am I to do to keep my Wordsearch Perks going?

  • Joey Midgett
    Joey Midgett Member Posts: 188 ✭✭

    Couldn't edit my last post for some reason. But just for the record, I just renewed my Perks through Worsearch not more than a month ago, so I am a current subscriber to it through Wordsearch.

  • Bradley Grainger (Logos)
    Bradley Grainger (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 11,963

    Most but not all of my books have transferred into Logos. But my Perks subscription, it says to update my profile to renew this subscription, but when I click the link it brings me to my subscriptions page and only my Faithlife Connect Essentials is listed there. What am I to do to keep my Wordsearch Perks going?

    I think Perks subscriptions aren't going to be set up until Monday morning. If you still don't see anything by the end of the day Monday, please post back.

  • cshover8669
    cshover8669 Member Posts: 375 ✭✭✭

    I have literally spent hours and have more hours to cross-reference my Word Search Library with my Logos library and the resources that cam over. This is not a simple process. For example, I have 9 volumes of Butler's Sermon Starters in Wordsearch and 5 in Logos. Without opening the resources in both and comparing the table of contents, I have no way of knowing if Logos has the entire set in fewer volumes. I too would love an individual comparison list showing the WordSearch title, the Logos Title, when it will be available if not already, etc.

    Thanks, Carla

  • Ruben Sandoval
    Ruben Sandoval Member Posts: 13

    What's up everyone!?!

    I'm both excited and tentative to have the resources combined. I have 2 separate emails for both programs. I wonder if it is wise to keep it like this until all resources are confirmed migrated to Logos from Wordsearch, then verify all is good before combining the 2. This may be helpful in "tracking" what comes over and what does not (and fortunately I have a new machine that didn't have Logos on it yet, so I'm able to do this). Think it's worth it? Not sure, but it will help...I think...just extra work on my side : (

    So my question is: 

    1) Is there a time limit to have accounts combined?

    2) What do we do with titles that are not yet migrated and that are not in the list provided that are planned to be migrated (for example: I see The NIV Study Bible has not been added, nor is it on the list of to be added; the same is true for The Founders Journal and some other "older" titles from the Doxa days)? 

  • Glenn Airoldi (Faithlife)
    Glenn Airoldi (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 314

    I am willing to put the time in to make this work but for now, can someone please tell me how to best use Strong's? In WS i could open the KJV, turn on #'s, and hover over a number to see a definition. Does Logos have this feature or do I have to open Strong's separately from the KJV? 

    Here's our support article on using Strong's numbers. https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028307111-Using-Strong-s-Numbers

    You can find more articles and tips we hope will prove useful here: https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360049907311

  • Glenn Airoldi (Faithlife)
    Glenn Airoldi (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 314

    1) Is there a time limit to have accounts combined?

    There is no time limit to have accounts merged.  Customer service will be able to handle that for you whenever you are ready.

  • Glenn Airoldi (Faithlife)
    Glenn Airoldi (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 314

    2) What do we do with titles that are not yet migrated and that are not in the list provided that are planned to be migrated (for example: I see The NIV Study Bible has not been added, nor is it on the list of to be added; the same is true for The Founders Journal and some other "older" titles from the Doxa days)? 

    Please continue to report these anomalies as you discover them.  This is very helpful as we work through the transition.  

  • Ruben Sandoval
    Ruben Sandoval Member Posts: 13

    1) Is there a time limit to have accounts combined?

    There is no time limit to have accounts merged.  Customer service will be able to handle that for you whenever you are ready.



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    This is good news! Thanks!

  • Ruben Sandoval
    Ruben Sandoval Member Posts: 13

    2) What do we do with titles that are not yet migrated and that are not in the list provided that are planned to be migrated (for example: I see The NIV Study Bible has not been added, nor is it on the list of to be added; the same is true for The Founders Journal and some other "older" titles from the Doxa days)? 

    Please continue to report these anomalies as you discover them.  This is very helpful as we work through the transition.  

    Is there a specific place I should report these to?

    Thanks!