Resources from Wordsearch of interest to Catholics(?)

SineNomine
SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

With the ongoing addition of all/most of Wordsearch's catalogue to Faithlife's catalogue, I'm sure there must be a number of new-to-Verbum titles of interest to Catholics, whether because they are valuable reference resources of an ecumenical nature, patristic works, works by Catholic/Orthodox writers, etc.

So I'm wondering... what are they? Have people noticed some? Are there folks familiar with Wordsearch's catalogue who can comment on this?

“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

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  • John W Gillis
    John W Gillis Member Posts: 133 ✭✭

    I settled on Wordsearch as my first electronic Bible Study platform many years ago (early 1990s) largely because it had Catholic-friendly resources - during those early years, I had the NAB, NJB, and NRSV to go along with the standard KJV+Strongs+TSK basic tool set. However, there has been a lot of water under the bridge (and numerous ownership changes) since then. I'm afraid the modern Wordsearch offerings had very little to offer Catholics. They didn't even pick up the license for the NABRE, but ended up just pulling the NAB from their catalog when the USCCB changed versions. These guys were very focused on American Protestantism, especially after they were bought by Lifeway (publishing arm of the SBC).

    The new-to-Logos offerings that will be developed over the coming months will, I imagine, largely be Broadman & Holman offerings, and other works primarily from the Baptist end of the spectrum, and lots of sermon-oriented works. I'd guess that pretty much all the new content would be found at https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration, since the content that has migrated over already would pretty obviously be content Logos already had.

    Sorry to disappoint, but don't get your hopes up. This is great news for people like me who had significant resources in WS who now get to have much better editions of those resources rolled right into our Logos/Verbum libraries, but there won't be much to entice Verbum users.

  • John W Gillis
    John W Gillis Member Posts: 133 ✭✭

    Just for additional context, I did a search at the link above of the new titles coming over from the Wordsearch catalog for resources with the word "orthodox" in the title, and got zero hits. When searching for "catholic" in the title, I got one hit:

    Missions: Sharing the Good News with Roman Catholic Friends, Church Starting Network

    So, there you go...

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    OK, so you haven't noticed any such resources, but has anyone else?

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    I've noticed the following:

    An Enchiridion on Faith, Hope, and Love, Augustine of Hippo; Albert C. T Outler

    Augustine's Confessions, Mark DeVries, B&H Publishing

    A Select Library of the Nicene & Post-Nicene Fathers of the Christian Church, T&T Clark

    All of these are already available in other translations/editions.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • David Wanat
    David Wanat Member Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭

    I settled on Wordsearch as my first electronic Bible Study platform many years ago (early 1990s) largely because it had Catholic-friendly resources - during those early years, I had the NAB, NJB, and NRSV to go along with the standard KJV+Strongs+TSK basic tool set. However, there has been a lot of water under the bridge (and numerous ownership changes) since then. I'm afraid the modern Wordsearch offerings had very little to offer Catholics. They didn't even pick up the license for the NABRE, but ended up just pulling the NAB from their catalog when the USCCB changed versions. These guys were very focused on American Protestantism, especially after they were bought by Lifeway (publishing arm of the SBC).

    The new-to-Logos offerings that will be developed over the coming months will, I imagine, largely be Broadman & Holman offerings, and other works primarily from the Baptist end of the spectrum, and lots of sermon-oriented works. I'd guess that pretty much all the new content would be found at https://www.logos.com/wordsearch-library-migration, since the content that has migrated over already would pretty obviously be content Logos already had.

    Sorry to disappoint, but don't get your hopes up. This is great news for people like me who had significant resources in WS who now get to have much better editions of those resources rolled right into our Logos/Verbum libraries, but there won't be much to entice Verbum users.

    Thanks for doing the legwork on this.

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  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    The New Oxford Annotated Bible is also in the list, but apparently Wordsearch stopped selling it at one point, so it's not clear to me whether FL will sell it once it's come over.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Phil Gons (Logos)
    Phil Gons (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 3,797

    When LifeWay acquired Wordsearch, they narrowed the catalog to be more palatable to their more Southern Baptist user base. We acquired files and licenses for titles Wordsearch sold before LifeWay acquired Wordsearch and should be able to make many of them available for sale (depending on whether the contract hasn't expired or can be renewed).

  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    When LifeWay acquired Wordsearch, they narrowed the catalog to be more palatable to their more Southern Baptist user base. We acquired files and licenses for titles Wordsearch sold before LifeWay acquired Wordsearch and should be able to make many of them available for sale (depending on whether the contract hasn't expired or can be renewed).

    Excellent. I gather Wordsearch had the 3rd edition, but I'd be happy with the 4th edition too. Cf. https://suggestbooks.uservoice.com/forums/308269-book-suggestions/suggestions/10048602-new-oxford-annotated-bible

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When LifeWay acquired Wordsearch, they narrowed the catalog to be more palatable to their more Southern Baptist user base.

    But Phil. Logos already had Southern Baptists ... you need to buy out the Coptic Orthodox electronic publisher to expand your user base.[;)]

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  • David Wanat
    David Wanat Member Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭

    When LifeWay acquired Wordsearch, they narrowed the catalog to be more palatable to their more Southern Baptist user base.

    But Phil. Logos already had Southern Baptists ... you need to buy out the Coptic Orthodox electronic publisher to expand your user base.Wink

    Is there such a thing? If so, I'm intrigued

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there such a thing? If so, I'm intrigued

    COEPA https://www.stmarkclev.org/coptic-orthodox-organizations/coptic-orthodox-electronic-publishing-australia-coepa I have seriously suggested some of their resources but not managed to get a high interest level.

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  • David Wanat
    David Wanat Member Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭

    First I’ve hard of this group. I imagine it would have useful resources though 

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  • SineNomine
    SineNomine Member Posts: 7,043

    When LifeWay acquired Wordsearch, they narrowed the catalog to be more palatable to their more Southern Baptist user base. We acquired files and licenses for titles Wordsearch sold before LifeWay acquired Wordsearch and should be able to make many of them available for sale (depending on whether the contract hasn't expired or can be renewed).

    I'm guessing https://www.logos.com/product/200456/a-theology-of-liberation-15th-anniversary-edition-history-politics-and-salvation & https://www.logos.com/product/200182/uniformity-with-gods-will fall into this collection.

    “The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara

  • Chris K
    Chris K Member Posts: 223

    The New Oxford Annotated Bible is also in the list, but apparently Wordsearch stopped selling it at one point, so it's not clear to me whether FL will sell it once it's come over.

    It is available for prepub:   https://www.logos.com/product/198586/the-new-oxford-annotated-bible