Verse-by-Verse Personal Book(s) on the Pentateuch by E.M. Zerr
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Mark Johns said:
I found an error NB.Mick.
It is in the Table of Contents for Leviticus. Leviticus 16.
Compiles OK, but there must be a hidden character or something.
Since you did that one, can you find it?
I think I updated that already and thought I had replaced it in the zip - here's my current version that should have Lev 16 fixed: 3175.Zerr-Leviticus.with BI.docx
Have joy in the Lord!
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Thanks. But already corrected it.
Didn't want to spend a lot of time on it, so I copied that portion from the .docx from Leviticus
that I created and pasted it into that area of your file with the milestones, then I redid the
Milestones and the problem went away. Must have been an extra Carriage Return or something
in the Milestone(s) for Chapter Sixteen. Anyway, whatever I did solved it.Thanks again....
Mark
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Well NB.Mick, explain to me again how the Milestones will work with the
Zerr Bible Commentary. If I am in one of my Bibles, can I tell LOGOS to search for
a phrase, word, etc... in Zerr's. Just how exaclty, does all that work? I'm no dummy,
but it is radically different from my WORDSearch 12.Mark
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Mark Johns said:
Well NB.Mick, explain to me again how the Milestones will work with the
Zerr Bible Commentary.The milestones will have Zerr's commentary look and behave much like any other bible commentary resource in Logos. Note that bibles, bible commentaries and bible notes (from study bibles) share the same kind of milestone tagging: bible index - existing in many different flavors due to different verse mapping across all those bibles, but working seamlessly together since Logos translates those in the background.
Without such an index, PBs are just like monographs - you can read them cover to cover and try to manually position to a location by using the ToC or scroll around. Nice but not very functional.
In my screenshot a build a quick bible study layout with the NIV to the left and two commentaries on the right - the self-built Zerr Bible Commentary on top, the Logos-built NAC commentary below. Both look quite similar in functionality.
Note that the NIV has a locator field where you can position the bible to a verse location (green box in the locator bar, the one in my WS 11 application looks somewhat similar). On the right-hand side you'll see that the commentaries have a very similar looking locator bar, sharing with the bible the locator field (green box i.e. it will show you where you are and you can position a commentary precisely to a bible verse) and others, e.g. the Virtual Filter menu.
You can have Notes that are anchored to a bible verse show up in your commentary (not shown in the screenshot).
I put the NIV and both commentaries into a linked set (the A with the red box around it). Thus the three resources will scroll together: whatever verse I read in Zerr's, the NIV will show it, and whatever I read in the bible, the commentaries will have the explanation right alongside.
With the bible index in place, I can put Zerr's commentary into a multiview pane (the thick parallel lines button) to have it scroll along. In those panes there is a master resource - the others scroll with the master, but the master resource stays put when I scroll the others.
The yellow boxes highlight links that we put manually into the PB to link to/popup-display verses or any other resources. Those are independent from the milestones but make a strong capability of bible software (we could link Strongs or lemmas to lexicons etc.).
Hope this helps a bit!
Have joy in the Lord!
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Thanks for that info.
The Screenshot was pretty blurry though.
Any chance of getting a better resolution picture?I like the example you give, but still slightly confused as to how to
get a resource like Zerr's to scroll right along with the Bible. Can
you explain that part a little more? I sorta understand what you're
saying and my understanding of LOGOS is getting better. But
sometimes even examples I find on LOGOS aren't as helpful as they
could be. Between QuickVerse and WORDSearch (ver. 12) I have
about 20 years in those two programs. With about one month of using
LOGOS the Muddy water of understanding is clearer than it was but it
is still cloudy....If I can grasp the Workings of LOGOS as far as using Personal Books and/or
LOGOS made Commentaries in conjunction with a particular Bible Translation
then the rest for me will go a lot easier I think. the Reverse Interlinear and some
of the other features of LOGOS are understandable. Just need a little more
education concerning your example...Thanks....
Mark
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Mark Johns said:
The Screenshot was pretty blurry though.
Any chance of getting a better resolution picture?if you double click it, it will become larger and thus better to see - but the screenshot is as it just replicates my monitor....
Mark Johns said:still slightly confused as to how to
get a resource like Zerr's to scroll right along with the Bible. Can
you explain that part a little more?
- open your bible in Logos. Go to the top right of the resource tab and click the "kebap" menu, the three vertical dots. Then select link set A
- open Zerr's Bible Commentary and do the same.
Both the bible and the commentary will usually show the small A (as long as there's enough place on the screen to do so) in the tab.
Now when you scroll or position the bible (from Genesis through 1 Samuel), the commenary will follow - and vice versa.
Have joy in the Lord!
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Amazing!
I should have thought of double clicking on the screenshot.
Printed it out.
After double clicking and reading your post just now, I think I see the light!
If I need anything else to know, I know who to ask.
Did you use to be a WordSearch user?
I am still wating for the rest of my books (about 330 to go) to migrate
to LOGOS.....Mark
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NB.Mick,
I don't get the A B C D D F Links to select from\
When I click on the three dots all I get is a menu
with 2-3 main options:[ }Resources
[ ]Notes and Highlights
[ ]Notes and Highlights (Corresponding)I get the same thing when I click on my NAC commentary
and the Zerr's Commentary. Is there something in Settings
that I need to change?I am using the LOGOS 8 that I downloaded from logos.com website.
Regardless of what package, shouldn't I be able to get the menu
with the Letters you describe: A B C D E......?Don't know whats going on. I'm not able to sync commentaries with
my Bible. When I click on a link in Zerr's my Bible goes to that chapter
and verse that I clicked on in Zerr's. But I am not getting the menu that
you described. Clcik on the three dots and nothing like what you describe.--Mark-- H E L P ! ! !
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Mark Johns said:
Amazing!
I should have thought of double clicking on the screenshot.
Printed it out.
After double clicking and reading your post just now, I think I see the light!
Good to hear!
Have joy in the Lord!
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Mark Johns said:
I don't get the A B C D D F Links to select from\
When I click on the three dots all I get is a menu
with 2-3 main options:[ }Resources
[ ]Notes and Highlights
[ ]Notes and Highlights (Corresponding)EDITED to reference screenshot:
You clicked the visual filter menu, which is three dots stacked like a pyramid, to the left-middle of the locator bar (red box).
The menu relevant to the link sets is the "kebap menu" with three vertically stacked dots at the top right corner of the resource tab - indicated with an arrow and a green box around it in my screenshot below. This menu also is relevant should you want to Print/Export or build a link to any place in a resource in Logos....
Have joy in the Lord!
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NB.Mick....
When I start with empty desktop in LOGOS and select Bible and Commentary Layout
My NKJV loads on the left and my NAC Commentary loads on the right side. Then I
See the Orange A in the Tab for each, but when I click on the three dots, I still don't see
any menu like in you screenshot....Mark
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Mark Johns said:
when I click on the three dots, I still don't see
any menu like in you screenshot....Hi Mark,
are you sure you click the right menu? NOT the red Visual Filter menu and NOT the yellow application menu, but the green, tab specific "kebap-menu". It will always look like this, no preferences, settings, functionality or package needed
Have joy in the Lord!
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Boy. I feel like a dummy!
If I looked more closely at you message I would not have misunderstood.
I am still an old WORDSearch/e-Sword "DOG" trying to learn a new trick.
I am guilty of trying to put things together without reading the instructions.
I actually learned how to do Milestones by examining a .docx file that Carla (cshover) sent me.
Thanks again for the reply...
Glad I looked closer. Sometimes it helps to read the instructions and not just look at the pictures.
Maybe that's why people have trouble with Study Bibles. All the bells and whistles, Maps, graphics,
charts etc... distract people to where they don't pay close attention to God's instructions..... Maybe
I can get an illustration out of this for a sermon.--Mark--
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This is sweet NB.Mick....Now I can begin to do more and better
Bible study thanks to your assistance.Does this mean that I can Link my favorite Bible Translation to all my Greek Tools, etc.??
And have say, the NIV in the panel to the left, and my Greek Word Study, Interlinear, etc. in
the right panel and then save that layout. I know there are layout just for that, just haven't
investigated that part of LOGOS yet. It has been 40 yrs since i had Greek in Bible College.Glad to have a program like LOGOS that has more "PUNCH" when it comes to Greek Word
Studies, etc....Thanks again. Gotta go finish 2nd Samuel for the Zerr Bible Commentary. Hope to Post that
one on this forum tonite..Mark
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This might be helpful for others.
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James,
Thanks for that YouTube Video!
Noticed that it had the Zerr's Commentary in that video.
Is it available somewhere else that I don't know about?
Didn't realize there was already a LOGOS Version. Or, did
you just make that? Interesting......
Thanks again. That Video is informative.
---Mark--
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Just realized James that you just made that video today.
Good job....
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Please find below the Book of Second Samuel from E.M. Zerr's Bible Commentary.
Like the other books, all the necessary "Milestones" have been added to this book.
Like the other books so far, it Compiles with no mistake and/or errors.
0844.Zerr-2nd Samuel.with BI.docx
Currently, I am working on First Kings by E.M. Zerr.
--Mark--
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Please find below the image file for the Zerr Bible Commentary
The Zerr's Commentaries from which the LOGOS Personal book
look just like this Green Book. Now, you can "Change" the image
when you "Compile" and build your book...
Sorry I didn't upload this sooner.
--Mark--
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Please find below E.M. Zerr's Commentary on the book of 1st Kings.
this now completes Zerr's Commentary for Genesis thru 1st Kings.8322.Zerr-1st Kings.with BI.docx
This part of Zerr's Commentary (1st Kings) features the appropriate "Milestones" to qualify this Commentary
as a LOGOS type Bible Commentary.The previous books - :"Genesis thru 2nd Samuel" have already been uploaded to this forum. Simply go back
until you find the latest links posted on this forum on Thursday October 22nd. That's just two days ago...Have fun and enjoy. all the books when loaded into the LOGOS Personal Book Editor/Creator should now
compile without any mistakes and/or errors whatsoever.0 -
Find inserted into this post the Book of Second Kings from Zerr's Bible Commentary.
All Milestones included. Please excuse any spelling or Grammar mistakes.
5672.Zerr-2nd Kings.with BI.docx
-Mark-
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What gives? had to go back into my Browsers history to log on to this forum.]
Anyone know what Nile Shore is?
So what if LOGOS gave me all the works of Shakespear and all those Latin Commentaries? Big Deal!
The migration from WORDSearch has all but dried up, now this announcement and am unable to access
anything on the LOGOS Website? Guess it looks more and more like I may have to go back to e-Sword. It
wasn't the greatest, but at least it is free. So is theword software. And SwordSearcher is looking better and
better. Have to admit that I am getting tired already of creating Books for a bible softeware that looks like it
might cost hundreds of dollars I don't have. Not working now because of the Pandemic. Good thing my wife
went back to work. Now I can sit here a play with a software that the average person cannot afford to upgrade.Now, I wander what people did before there was Bible Software? And all they had (like me) was WordPerfect
when it was on floppy discs. Saw something on Facebook wondering if LOGOS was taking lessons from the
Microsoft gameplan. I sure hope not.Please LOGOS.....Prove me wrong. I think maybe WORDSearch should have bought out LOGOS and made a
product that was more affordable. Please LOGOS, tell me I am wrong. Sorry for the ranting and raving. I'm just
not happy that they could give me all the works of Shakespear but have to wait until after the big announcement
to one day deliver the books from my WORDSearch Library that are "MISSING IN ACTION." I think that perhaps
my books are being held hostage. The good LORD knows that I'm hoping and praying that the Ransom to get my
books to MIGRATE is not so HUGE that it forces me to choose another bible software that is more affordable.Yeah. Don't get me wrong. I am beginning to like this LOGOS software but if they don't implement the missing
user friendly features of WORDSearch without charging an exorbitant upgrade fee, I will be on "Unhappy Camper..."--Mark--
PS. The E.M. Zerr Commentary on First Chronicles I plan on posting later today. With a big snow predicted for our area
looks like I am going to be stuck indoors for a couple days. May be able to finish Zerr's Volume Two of his Bible Commentary
for LOGOS. Not giving up on LOGOS yet. Just kinda blindsided by being unable to access the helpful information on the
LOGOS website.....0 -
Mark Johns said:
What gives? had to go back into my Browsers history to log on to this forum.]
Anyone know what Nile Shore is?
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niLe ShOre is GOne is "Logos nine is here".
Logos is launching a new version, Logos 9. The website will be down till about 6am today when they do their live premier. Things will be a little crazy over the next week because of this. Don't get worried this happens every time they release a new version.
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James is correct. New version launching today 9:00 AM eastern, 6:00 AM pacific. Hopefully some eagerly anticipated feature upgrades.
Hang in there, will get better soon. Carla
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OK. Was getting worried. WORDSearch never did this. Been with them and QuickVerse for 20 years.
Being stuck at home during this Pandemic does not enable me to afford a major upgrade right now.
On SS and preaching for a small church does not allow an expensive purchase. Especially since the
books I need haven't been Migrated over from WORDSearch.I hope that LOGOS will not disappoint WORDSearch Users right off the bat while Migration is still in it's infancy.
AN EXTREMELY REDUCED UPGRADE FOR WORDSearch Users (Well under $100 ) would go a long ways
to keeping many of those WORDSearch users. After all, my last major upgrade to Version 12.0 was less than
$50. I would expect something on that order for all the New WORDSearch users that are considering being a
part of the LOGOS User Base.I have been preaching for over 40 yrs. and still have many years left in me. It's just that the timing and unknown
cost has kinda put a damper on my spirits. Not all preachers and Sunday School teachers out there are employed
by "MEGA CHURCHES" who can afford all the bells and whistles.If the LOGOS upgrade for WORDSearch Users is comparable to a WORDSearch upgrade, say for Version 13.0+,
then I am onboard. Provided the cost is in line with my Income Level and that cost is not due until all my Books
on the Migration Page are transferred over to my LOGOS.Here are some things that would be nice to see in a new LOGOS Version: (i.e. Ver. 9.0 or greater):
1. More graphical as in a more user-friendly interface.
2. A proper Illustration Database, etc.. allowing preachers, etc. to keep track of Sermon Illustrations, Stories, with capabilities
to insert Milestones and make/create Illustration User Books comparable to the other Books available in a User's Library.
3. More powerful Sermon Creator with Outliner features, etc...that is also synced and/or merged with the above Illustration
Database, making it easier to find, locate, edit, insert Illustrations (with Milestones?) into a preacher's sermons.
4. Perhaps even a feature similar to the above idea about a Sermon Creator that also includes ability for a Sunday School
Teacher, Elder, Preacher, etc...to easily generate ClassBooks for Sunday School or Personal Bible Study purposes. The old
Lesson Maker feature in WORDSearch was OK, but not as powerful as it could have been. I have nearly 3,000 Books in
WORDSearch, but the Old Lesson Maker did not work with many of my WORDSearch Books and Volumes.5. Guess what I'm really look for is some way to EASILY do all the above in LOGOS without a HUMONGOUS Expense.
Maybe even some kind of "Card File System" for Sermons, Illustrations, Gospel Tracts. Something that a Preacher, Teacher,
or Missionary in some far off Mission Field could use to easily generate Booklets, Tracts, Pamplets for use in Mission Fields.
All of this I suppose, could be kinda like the Old Desktop Publisher, enabling small churches or preachers on a limited income
to easily publish professionally looking material from Books and Volumes already in their LOGOS Library.I suppose someone will say "You don't want much, do you?" It's just these are some things that I've wanted for years in QuickVerse, then
in WORDSearch. WORDSearch got close at times, but not close enough. If LOGOS can get a little closer than WORDSearch to these
ideas floating around in my finite mind, I'll be a happy camper. Provided someone doesn't take me to the cleaners on the upgrade costs.--Mark--
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Just a thought. If you can afford a subscription to Faithlife Connect, an upgrade doesn't have to cost you anything extra. The Faithlife connect subscription without library is only $99 a year, and includes monthly free, books, an additonal discount on base packages, 2 free mobile ed courses a yeart, etc.
There is a new Sermon Manager in L9, but I haven't kicked the tires yet and won't be able to until I am off work today. I will email you about it after I do the training on MP Seminars and experiment with it a little bit. it might be what you need.
If you have the subscription, you get all new features automatically as soon as they have been released.
Carla
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Carla,
Thanks.... Provided the upgrade costs outweigh the benefits of the New Features.
Really beginning to like LOGOS more and more each day. I cannot afford to fully Retire
if I have to shell a lot of "$$$" right now. Besides, been married for over 40 yrs and I
want to be able to not only preserve peace in the family, but if I spend a lot on BIble Software
right now, I might have to cut back on my contributions on Sunday. Don't think God would
like that.It's just that Buying Bible Software, or even Microsoft Office is kinda like Wanting to buy a
Cadillac Escalade, but you can only afford something on a used Cheverolet budget. I want
to have the improvements in LOGOS, but at what COST????--Mark--
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Sorry Carla,
Hope you don't mind my "Venting" Makes me want to ask LOGOS, "How Low can you go?"
$99 sounds good but would like to see something more like a monthly charge (less than $10)With everything going on in the world today, it would be easier on my household budget if I
could do what you suggest without having to pay a large subscription fee up front. Don't know
how many thousands of WORDSearch users are out there, but some better financial options
would go a long way towards keeping them in the LOGOS Customer base.BTW, I will look forward to your email. I would like to know what you find out.
Thanks,
Mark
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Carla,
Forgot to mention that I have about nearly 4,700 Books and/or Volumes in my LOGOS Program.
Many of them thanks to my investments in QuickVerse and WORDSearch over the past 20 years.
When I retired early several yrs ago and moved 500 miles away, I had to sacrifice making a lot of "$$$"
But that was a choice I made, along with my wife so we could both be near relatives whom we love.
Besides, that still allowed me to preach at least 3 Sundays per month out here in the MidWest. If I
still worked my old job, I could afford the best package deal for LOGOS, but making the prope life
choices is more important. If affordable I will stay with LOGOS, and I will continue to make Personal
Books for LOGOS, as long as future updates will be compatible with what I make and compile now
in Version 8.0.Later,
Mark
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Carla,
Since I will be here all week. I intend to catch the News on LOGOS.
Will keep my fingers crossed.
mark
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