Why is creating collections (not) redundant?
If you've carefully tagged all your resources, would that make creating collections redundant?
I can see the benefit of creating collections for parallel resource sets, but apart from that, I think almost everywhere you can use 'mytag:...' to instantly create a collection.
Am I overlooking something? Can someone share a purpose of Collections (apart from the said parallel resource sets) that cannot be taken care of with proper tagging?
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Michel Pauw said:
Am I overlooking something? Can someone share a purpose of Collections (apart from the said parallel resource sets) that cannot be taken care of with proper tagging?
I've replaced most of my collections with tags. As you noted where I want parallel resources is the exception.
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I create collections for reference as well as for Searching, especially where the Rule is complex e.g. mytag:(6Month, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec) license:temp is used to reference my Connect preview resources. If multiple months are present, then the older ones were not removed automatically.
I use a collection for AddedDate:<greater dec 1, 2019> license:temp to find when resources were added (altering the date and the license value as needed).
As long as I find them useful, I'll keep collections with simple rules,whether mytag or type, etc.
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Collections are also dynamic (as opposed to tagging) resources. When I create an author collection such as: Author:"Carson, D.A.", any subsequent resources by this author automatically go to this collection. I also find using collections easier to use in accessing my commentaries because of the PRS feature.
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I create a range of Commentary sections in a Custom Passage Guide and populate those with different Collections.
Similarly you can add Collections to different sections in the Cited By Tool
These are not possible just by using tagging.
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Graham Criddle said:
I create a range of Commentary sections in a Custom Passage Guide and populate those with different Collections.
Similarly you can add Collections to different sections in the Cited By Tool
These are not possible just by using tagging.
It looks like you can now do that using 'mytag:'
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Gordon said:
Collections are also dynamic (as opposed to tagging) resources. When I create an author collection such as: Author:"Carson, D.A.", any subsequent resources by this author automatically go to this collection. I also find using collections easier to use in accessing my commentaries because of the PRS feature.
That's a thing! Tagging would only be equivalent if you carefully tag all your resource right after buying them.
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Michel Pauw said:
It looks like you can now do that using 'mytag:'
So you can!
Sorry, I had forgotten that. Thanks for pointing it out.
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I only have the stock Collections that come from Verbum; I am in the tagging camp now. Over the last few years I started tagging a lot, just about 90% of my library is tagged now. I started building a lot of Collections early on, then went through the phase where Logos/Verbum performance got terrible because of the dynamic processing of Collections. I deleted all my Collections and performance improved considerably. Does anyone know if Collections are still a big performance hit? It would be interesting to try a test, I suspect they still take a lot of CPU depending on the Collections (number and type) people have. I am surprised that's not mentioned more when people post of performance issues on startup, etc.
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Pater Noster said:
Does anyone know if Collections are still a big performance hit?
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/168635.aspx describes some changes that were designed to make large collections work better.
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Collections make sense for me, because tagging thousands of resources is more than I want to take on. I'm not sure I'd have the stamina to finish the job, and I'm comfortably certain that I'd make mistakes along the way (and probably change my mind about how to do it once or twice during the process). I do think it would be helpful if FaithLife could look at some of the more popular collection rules and think about whether they could add a few tags that could simplify or replace them.
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I agree; I used to use collection. Now I use tagging which seems to work better. In many robust programs (Photoshop, for example) there are multiple ways to accomplish the same thing.
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