Legacy Standard Bible
Will this be coming to us?
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Maybe? It is not on Pre-Pub, which would be our only indication.
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From the Translation's Website:
Website said:Once the complete Bible releases in print, the LSB will be made available to third-party Bible apps and software developers.
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Website said:The complete LSB will be released in print by the end of 2021.
Based on this, the earliest we could expect it would be "by the end of 2021," but perhaps not until 2022.
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Yeah, even with that I’m not holding my breath. The NASB 2020 still hasn’t been published. [:)]
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Rick Ratzlaff said:
Will this be coming to us?
We are currently looking into bringing the LSB to the platform but we have nothing to announce at this time.
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Rick Ratzlaff said:
Will this be coming to us?
We are currently looking into bringing the LSB to the platform but we have nothing to announce at this time.
Great to hear that FL is working on getting this.
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What market is Legacy Standard Bible aimed at? Is this just a vanity project?
Given it is just a revision of the NASB1995 done by Scholars at Master Seminary who is it going to appeal to? NASB has never been a big seller.
Not sure the decision to translate name of God Yahweh is a smart move. The HCSB translated it Yahweh and it was seen as eccentric and put a lot of people off. Hence why the revision CSB is far more popular.
Don't get me wrong I am a bible geek and love comparing translations, but who is going preach from the legacy standard?
Just my thoughts
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P A said:
What market is Legacy Standard Bible aimed at? Is this just a vanity project?
Given it is just a revision of the NASB1995 done by Scholars at Master Seminary who is it going to appeal to? NASB has never been a big seller.
Not sure the decision to translate name of God Yahweh is a smart move. The HCSB translated it Yahweh and it was seen as eccentric and put a lot of people off. Hence why the revision CSB is far more popular.
Don't get me wrong I am a bible geek and love comparing translations, but who is going preach from the legacy standard?
Just my thoughts
P A
The market is those who have the wisdom to appreciate the wisdom that a literal translation imparts which cannot be gleaned from a so-called "thought-for-thought" translation. It's a smallish market, but loyally appreciative, and the NASB95 is the best of literal English Bibles. Sadly, Lockman, the publisher, seems to have veered from its core purpose w/ the NASB20, so the LSB may fill the niche Lockman appears to be abandoning.
I'm not a preacher per se, but I do teach occasionally, and I may use the LSB if it improves on the NASB w/o losing its benefits. Aside from being primarily a literal translation, the NASB95 has excellent marginal notes. For that reason, if those notes do not carry over (or perhaps get incorporated into the text), then I will stick w/ NASB95.
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I like my coffee black and my working text with a minimal amount of fluff. This sort of thing is always better used than discussed. Looking forward to using it. I have the little app with the NT and Psalms/Proverbs. Much rather have it in Logos.[8-|]
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P A said:
What market is Legacy Standard Bible aimed at? Is this just a vanity project?
Given it is just a revision of the NASB1995 done by Scholars at Master Seminary who is it going to appeal to? NASB has never been a big seller.
Not sure the decision to translate name of God Yahweh is a smart move. The HCSB translated it Yahweh and it was seen as eccentric and put a lot of people off. Hence why the revision CSB is far more popular.
Don't get me wrong I am a bible geek and love comparing translations, but who is going preach from the legacy standard?
Just my thoughts
P A
You can learn more about the LSB here: https://lsbible.org/ & https://lsbible.org/preface/
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P A said:
Don't get me wrong I am a bible geek and love comparing translations, but who is going preach from the legacy standard?
Maybe John MacArthur. His endorsement appears on https://lsbible.org/.
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SineNomine said:
Maybe John MacArthur.
He is the driving force behind it.
https://lsbible.org said:Who is behind the LSB?
The LSB is a joint-venture product of The Lockman Foundation, Three Sixteen Publishing, and the John MacArthur Charitable Trust. The translation committee consists of a group of biblically qualified, faithful men from the Master’s University and Seminary, all of whom are scholars and preachers. The translation also went through an extensive review process from a team that consists of scholars and pastors from all around the world.
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SineNomine said:P A said:
What market is Legacy Standard Bible aimed at? Is this just a vanity project?
Given it is just a revision of the NASB1995 done by Scholars at Master Seminary who is it going to appeal to?
This was the clue...he is the founder of Master's Seminary.
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Glad you are looking into this, hope it turns into a pre-pub.Rick Ratzlaff said:Will this be coming to us?
We are currently looking into bringing the LSB to the platform but we have nothing to announce at this time.
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In the meantime, what happened to the NASB20? I would prefer the LSB, but that's probably a year away. I have been waiting for the '20 since October. I keep hoping for some new, but after 8 months of waiting, I think it's ridiculous.
Any idea when? I heard June, but....
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mab said:
I like my coffee black and my working text with a minimal amount of fluff. This sort of thing is always better used than discussed. Looking forward to using it. I have the little app with the NT and Psalms/Proverbs. Much rather have it in Logos.
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I want the Legacy Standard Bible. I just purchased the NASB20 and I hate it. Number one, it doesn't have any references and the gender inclusive is something I'm not interested in.
The LSB is a combination of the NAS77 and the '95 version. It takes a much closer look at the original languages and applies it faithfully in English. It preserves covenant language (i.e. loving kindness) and uses the name of God throughout the OT (YHWH).
This will be a perfect Bible for serious students of God's word. I can't wait, but until then I continue to use the NAS95.
Joseph
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Joseph Luna said:
I want the Legacy Standard Bible. I just purchased the NASB20 and I hate it
I can't say I hate the NASB2020 but it's not the right direction for thinking readers. It's beginning to play to the world. The LSB puts the focus where it belongs. Maybe I am biased, but I won't apologize.
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Here is a neat site with all the changes I too am waiting for the LSB and I hope it has a RI
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We are currently looking into bringing the LSB to the platform but we have nothing to announce at this time.
Great to hear! Please publicise when it's available on Pre-Pub [:)]
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Rick Ratzlaff said:
Will this be coming to us?
We are currently looking into bringing the LSB to the platform but we have nothing to announce at this time.
Agreed. Great news. If able please bring an RI with it
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Will the LSB have the same platform (non-paragraph version) like the NAS95?
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Joseph Luna said:
Will the LSB have the same platform (non-paragraph version) like the NAS95?
I assume that it will come in the same format that the print version does.
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I have the print version of the LSB New Testament with Psalms and Proverbs. It is in verse form. I also have it in Accordance and it can be exhibited in verse form or paragraph form. It is also has a RI.
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David Taylor Jr said:
PrePub now available https://www.logos.com/product/225544/legacy-standard-bible
Thanks for the heads up! $6 bucks is almost free so I preordered. Hopefully a reversed interlinear will be made available and they will fully tag it for fact book results and other stuff.
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Placed my order.. Thanks Faithlife!
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[Y]DAL said:David Taylor Jr said:PrePub now available https://www.logos.com/product/225544/legacy-standard-bible
Thanks for the heads up! $6 bucks is almost free so I preordered. Hopefully a reversed interlinear will be made available and they will fully tag it for fact book results and other stuff.
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Placed my order.
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Thanks for pointing this out David. I placed my order too.
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I am delighted and put my order in for it.
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I looked at the product page, noted it follows one of my least favorite translating strategies, then pressed the button to purchase it so I'll be able to follow all the falderol around it. But I genuinely am glad it is available for all those who have been (im)patiently waiting for it and hope it meets your expectations.
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MJ. Smith said:
it follows one of my least favorite translating strategies
How would you describe the translating strategy they used?
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Bruce Dunning said:
How would you describe the translating strategy they used?
product page said:By translating individual words as consistently as possible within their various nuances, it allows the reader to discern the Author’s intent.
I have had nothing but bad experiences with translations that try to make "Greek word meaning 1" always equal "English word 1". It focuses too strongly on individual words and ignores the degree the words around a word affect word choice and the influence of collocations. Sometimes a synonym is chosen for its sound, sometimes for its connotations. A bruise is "black and blue" not "blue and black" or "dark and aquamarine" for a silly example.
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MJ. Smith said:
I have had nothing but bad experiences with translations that try to make "Greek word meaning 1" always equal "English word 1". It focuses too strongly on individual words and ignores the degree the words around a word affect word choice and the influence of collocations.
I thought that was possibly what you meant but just wanted to be sure. I understand what you are saying but I try to remind myself that even a translation principle like they propose they are using is more of a sliding scale of nuances rather than a black and white decision.
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Bruce Dunning said:
I understand what you are saying but I try to remind myself that even a translation principle like they propose they are using is more of a sliding scale of nuances rather than a black and white decision.
Correct, this goes into a little more detail on the subject.
https://lsbible.org/faqs/#:~:text=How%20Did%20You%20Translate%20the%20LSB%3F
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Thanks David. That was helpful to read.
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mab said:Joseph Luna said:
I want the Legacy Standard Bible. I just purchased the NASB20 and I hate it
I can't say I hate the NASB2020 but it's not the right direction for thinking readers. It's beginning to play to the world. The LSB puts the focus where it belongs. Maybe I am biased, but I won't apologize.
This got me to do some more wondering. Since the Legacy Standard Bible is really an update of NASB 1995 what are the implications now that the NASB 2020 has been released? In what way do you think that the NASB 2020 "is not the right direction for thinking readers"? I would appreciate hearing more of your thinking behind this.
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From what I remember, the kerfuffle was over the use of gender inclusive language (human instead of man / brothers and sisters instead of brothers) thus pushing it closer to dynamic rather equivalent.
To refresh my memory I picked through the interweb and came across this interesting article.
http://evangelicaltextualcriticism.blogspot.com/2020/05/more-on-translation-draft.html?m=1I for one am excited about it But I am no expert by any means. I like the translation of YHWH and slave instead of LORD and servant. I usually float between the Nasb/esv and nlt in my reading.
This site has all the 2020 changes: https://biblewebapp.com/nasb2020-changes/#books
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LSB Customer Service told me that the file they provide to digital platforms can be changed back and forth from paragraph to verse-by-verse format. I'm hoping Logos puts it out in paragraph format so we have an option to go back and forth (using the "one verse per line" feature). It appears that the Accordance version can do that too.JT (alabama24) said:Joseph Luna said:Will the LSB have the same platform (non-paragraph version) like the NAS95?
I assume that it will come in the same format that the print version does.
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Gavin Murphy said:
LSB Customer Service told me that the file they provide to digital platforms can be changed back and forth from paragraph to verse-by-verse format. I'm hoping Logos puts it out in paragraph format so we have an option to go back and forth (using the "one verse per line" feature). It appears that the Accordance version can do that too.
If you ever had done one time a Personal Book Bible, then you know this is the easiest thing to do. So I'm sure Logos is able too.
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Ok, it's almost August; Accordance and now E-Sword have published the LSB and Logos still has no release date listed for their prepub. Is there any updates about when it should be released? If not, is it possible to go ahead and release the text and add functionality through updates?
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MJ. Smith said:
I have had nothing but bad experiences with translations that try to make "Greek word meaning 1" always equal "English word 1". It focuses too strongly on individual words and ignores the degree the words around a word affect word choice and the influence of collocations. Sometimes a synonym is chosen for its sound, sometimes for its connotations. A bruise is "black and blue" not "blue and black" or "dark and aquamarine" for a silly example.
So agree with this point of view. I have tried to use the NASB95 and the 77 over the years but they have never been daily drivers for me. I have pre-ordered the LSB for comparison use, but presently I am so at home with the discontinued and disparaged HCSB while having a KJV/NIV mental memorization database.
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I am getting impatient for the release, but I don't think it will be much longer. The problem for me is Sermon Builder with whatever default Bible text is in Logos. I have to manually insert if I want the LSB text.
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I’m hoping the LSB will get released soon
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New LSB update… Logos one of the few to NOT have it yet
Next, here is an updated list of developers that have the LSB available.
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Accordance (free)
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VerseLocker (free)
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e-Sword download (purchase the LSB module here)
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Parallel Plus (free)
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Bible Hub (free)
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YouVersion (free)
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Blue Letter Bible (free)
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TheBible.org (free)
And here is the list of other providers that have the LSB in development.
- Literal Word
- Logos
- StudyBible.org
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