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Tes

I would like to find out  if there is aresource in logos , which explains ,why the disciples of Jesus needed not get baptized.

TCBlack

Tes said:

I would like to find out  if there is aresource in logos , which explains ,why the disciples of Jesus needed not get baptized.

Any resource which purported to answer this would be building an argument from silence  an inherently poor hermeneutic.  Beyond this, since at least two of the disciples were originally disciples of John the Baptist - the argument from silence actually leans toward them being baptized.  An assertion either way however is flawed for lack of information.

However to search for such information I would begin with a general search of some theology books or commentaries on disciple NEAR baptize and see what you can find.

Consider looking into a collection like this one: Baptism Collection (3 Vols.)

Or doing a search against Logos resources with the term baptism.baptism - Site Search

George Somsel

Tes said:

I would like to find out  if there is aresource in logos , which explains ,why the disciples of Jesus needed not get baptized.

It is understandable that the disciples would need to undergo baptism.  The question is why Jesus must do so.  There is really only one passage which deals with this question:  Mt 13.13-17.  I would suggest that you consult your commentaries on this passage.

13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan, to be baptized by him. ¹⁴ John would have prevented him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?" ¹⁵ But Jesus answered him, "Let it be so now; for it is proper for us in this way to fulfill all righteousness." Then he consented. ¹⁶ And when Jesus had been baptized, just as he came up from the water, suddenly the heavens were opened to him and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. ¹⁷ And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, the Beloved, with whom I am well pleased."

The Holy Bible : New Revised Standard Version

. Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1989.

Pat Flanakin

There are different types of baptisms (around 7) in the Bible.  I take it you are referring to believer's baptism which occurs after salvation.

 

This is not required in the age of Israel under the Mosaic Law which is when Christ was on earth and the dispensation He worked within to fulfill the Law.

 

The baptism that was being performed by John the Baptist was a Jewish baptism that certainly the disciples had already received.  Since they were not in the Church Age, believer's baptism was not required yet.

 

Hope this helps, but it is a good question many do not address.

TCBlack

My fault! 

I started it by going beyond Tes' question.  Let's keep it contained by giving him answers to the quandry:

Tes said:

I would like to find out if there is a resource in logos, which explains, why the disciples of Jesus needed not to get baptized.

Let's point out the resources, or demonstrate how to find the answer.  [y]

George Somsel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/150846#Comment_150846

Pat Flanakin said:

There are different types of baptisms (around 7) in the Bible.  I take it you are referring to believer's baptism which occurs after salvation.

 

I'm afraid you are introducing your theology into the question.  Many of us would not contend that this is to be considered "believer's baptism which occurs after salvation."  We would state rather that it is the sign of the New Covenant. 

8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ. ⁹ For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, ¹⁰ and you have come to fullness in him, who is the head of every ruler and authority. ¹¹ In him also you were circumcised with a spiritual circumcision, by putting off the body of the flesh in the circumcision of Christ; ¹² when you were buried with him in baptism, you were also raised with him through faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.

The Holy Bible : New Revised Standard Version, Col 2.8-15

. Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1989.

I would suggest that we forgo that conversation.

TCBlack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/150859#Comment_150859

 

George Somsel said:

I would suggest that we forgo that conversation.

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