Effect of Windows 11 on operation of LOGOS?
Is there any report from LOGOS on the use of FaithLifes' tools running under Windows 11? I know the average user will not have tried this, but I expect LOGOS has been looking at this. Do we need to be cautious about moving too quickly toward Windows 11 when it is released?
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Floyd Johnson said:
Do we need to be cautious about moving too quickly toward Windows 11 when it is released?
I don't follow windows updates, but the advice for Mac users is that you should wait until you get the "all clear." Furthermore, Logos is not supported on beta OS's, so be careful about that prior to its release.
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Since when has there been Windows 11? I have seen or heard nothing of it.
Floyd Johnson said:Is there any report from LOGOS on the use of FaithLifes' tools running under Windows 11? I know the average user will not have tried this, but I expect LOGOS has been looking at this. Do we need to be cautious about moving too quickly toward Windows 11 when it is released?
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DIsciple II said:
Since when has there been Windows 11? I have seen or heard nothing of it.
Microsoft announced it today. Talk is it will be released end of year.
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Oh, I’ll have too take a look, I’ve seen no mention of it in news reports in my country. This would have once been big news with it talked about but nothing has come up on my news feeds. Thank you David.
David Wanat said:DIsciple II said:Since when has there been Windows 11? I have seen or heard nothing of it.
Microsoft announced it today. Talk is it will be released end of year.
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My news reports mentioned the forthcoming announcement ... but then the building collapse and the infrastructure compromise ate up all the news time.
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Floyd Johnson said:
Is there any report from LOGOS on the use of FaithLifes' tools running under Windows 11?
Microsoft hasn't even released any Insider Preview builds of Windows 11 yet, so there's really not much that can be reported at this stage.
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Floyd Johnson said:
Is there any report from LOGOS on the use of FaithLifes' tools running under Windows 11?
Microsoft hasn't even released any Insider Preview builds of Windows 11 yet, so there's really not much that can be reported at this stage.
So nobody has reported any problems with Logos performance on Windows 11 as of today?
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Mike Binks said:Floyd Johnson said:
Is there any report from LOGOS on the use of FaithLifes' tools running under Windows 11?
Microsoft hasn't even released any Insider Preview builds of Windows 11 yet, so there's really not much that can be reported at this stage.
So nobody has reported any problems with Logos performance on Windows 11 as of today?
Startup sound lasted 11 minutes => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11
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Here is a link to Microsoft https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11?icid=mscom_marcom_H1a_Windows11
There is an app/tool to download to determine if your current system can run Windows 11. My computer is 4 years old and does not meet the specifications....
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Brooks Cochran said:
Here is a link to Microsoft https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11?icid=mscom_marcom_H1a_Windows11
There is an app/tool to download to determine if your current system can run Windows 11. My computer is 4 years old and does not meet the specifications....
It's frustrating that the PC Health Check tool just tells me my computer can't run Windows 11 but doesn't tell me why. Just reading the system requirements as I understand them it looks like my computer is compatible so I wonder what the limitation is. [:(]
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Kiyah said:
the PC Health Check tool just tells me my computer can't run Windows 11 but doesn't tell me why.
Same here. The introduction seems a bit sponsored by HW-sellers, so :-(
But the FAQ says they will continue to support Win 10 for over 4 years, so assuming Logos will continue to run on Win 10, that probably is fine.
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Kiyah said:
It's frustrating that the PC Health Check tool just tells me my computer can't run Windows 11 but doesn't tell me why. Just reading the system requirements as I understand them it looks like my computer is compatible so I wonder what the limitation is.
There are a few things that I've read on multiple web sites that discuss this. Some of the possible reasons are:
1. The processor in the computer isn't new enough.
2. In Bios, ensure that TPM is turned on and is a current enough version
3. In Bios, ensure "Secure Boot" is turned on.
For one such article, see: Seeing 'This PC Can't Run Windows 11' Error? Here is The Fix! | Beebom
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Microsoft hasn't even released any Insider Preview builds of Windows 11 yet, so there's really not much that can be reported at this stage.
And I'm certain that Faithlife will report loudly and clearly the moment that Logos/Verbum is officially supported on Windows 11.
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Mike Binks said:Floyd Johnson said:
Is there any report from LOGOS on the use of FaithLifes' tools running under Windows 11?
Microsoft hasn't even released any Insider Preview builds of Windows 11 yet, so there's really not much that can be reported at this stage.
So nobody has reported any problems with Logos performance on Windows 11 as of today?
That’s one way to spin it 😄
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Rick said:Kiyah said:
It's frustrating that the PC Health Check tool just tells me my computer can't run Windows 11 but doesn't tell me why. Just reading the system requirements as I understand them it looks like my computer is compatible so I wonder what the limitation is.
There are a few things that I've read on multiple web sites that discuss this. Some of the possible reasons are:
1. The processor in the computer isn't new enough.
2. In Bios, ensure that TPM is turned on and is a current enough version
3. In Bios, ensure "Secure Boot" is turned on.
For one such article, see: Seeing 'This PC Can't Run Windows 11' Error? Here is The Fix! | Beebom
Thanks Rick.
Thanks also for logically ordering your possible reasons - For those reading the linked article, it spends gives lots of advice on 2 and 3 (trying to follow those could be quite a hassle with BIOS updates, restarts etc.) and then coming around with 'if it still doesn't work, it might be the processor' - which I think definitely needs to be checked first.
Great that I now know that my laptop has TPM 2.0 ready to use (no idea if it is turned on or off), only to read in this afterthought-passage: you must be running an 8th-Gen (released in 2018) or above CPU to install Windows 11, which is a shocker. Basically, if you have an Intel processor below 8th-gen, you won’t pass the Windows 11 compatibility test. Noting my i5-7200U processor is a 7th gen CPU I'm glad I didn't tinker for hours with obscure security features in the BIOS.
But anyway, it's still only curiosity and way out until I need to go Win 11 (pretty sure some people in my family still run Win 7 on their PCs)
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I am sure there a lot under the hood. Here we go again Microsoft making two classes of Windows users. The people that can run it and those who can't. I haven't seen the specs. The video yesterday didn't really go into much detail.
It looks like a new skin running on top of Windows 10. All 3 of my computers are old but runs windows 10 fairly nicely. I have a Dell Optiplex with an icore 5-4570 running 8GB of ram. Ok, this is old for today's standard but it is my Logos PC. It is the only one I have that Logos takes 30 secs - min to load. After it is loaded it is fast no bogging down. If I have to stay with 10 so be it. I only use this computer for Quicken and Logos plus surfing the net. All 3 of my computers just for web use.
Optiplex does more than web use as I do read my bible and use it to study as well. Also, Optiplex is the only one running Windows 10 Pro. The other two Dell laptop and an HP all-in-one are running home.
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NB.Mick said:
you must be running an 8th-Gen (released in 2018) or above CPU to install Windows 11, which is a shocker. Basically, if you have an Intel processor below 8th-gen, you won’t pass the Windows 11 compatibility test.
Windows should have stated that explicitly on its system requirements. They just said you needed a processor with 2 cores or more. I have a 6th gen i5-6200U, so that explains it for me. I'll be rocking with Windows 10 for the time being. Glad they're supporting it until 2025.
It seems like they just want people to mindlessly rush right out and buy new hardware. Nope. lol
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Mike Binks said:
So nobody has reported any problems with Logos performance on Windows 11 as of today?
I doubt many, if any, Logos users have installed essentially what was a leaked version of Windows 11 on their systems.
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You can I believe offically install today the beta if you are a windows insider. I stop being one because sick of all the updates.
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According to the little app, my PC is fine and good to go for 11. I don't really see all that much utility in the new operating systems. There's more gingerbread for how the computer presents things to you. It's interface and frankly I still function closer to a Windows 7 style with a Mac Dock type program. It is perfect for me. I hope I can retain it.
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Microsoft hasn't even released any Insider Preview builds of Windows 11 yet, so there's really not much that can be reported at this stage.
Of course, the other issue is how long will LOGOS support Windows 10? Will they target the same 2025 date as Microsoft?
Blessings,
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I bet if you can run windows 10 than 11 will be fine. That is useless they need the new Bios secure thing. A lot of people don't have that.
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Floyd Johnson said:
Microsoft hasn't even released any Insider Preview builds of Windows 11 yet, so there's really not much that can be reported at this stage.
Of course, the other issue is how long will LOGOS support Windows 10? Will they target the same 2025 date as Microsoft?
By that time I’ll either have a Mac Book Pro or a nice Windows upgrade 👍😁👌
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Floyd Johnson said:
Of course, the other issue is how long will LOGOS support Windows 10? Will they target the same 2025 date as Microsoft?
Faithlife thread => ANNOUNCEMENT: End of support for Windows 7, Windows 8.1 & MacOS 10.11–10.13 preceded Microsoft end of support for Windows 7 by 7 months.
Uninformed user speculation is Faithlife supporting Logos & Verbum on Windows 10 while Microsoft supports Windows 10. When Microsoft firmly establishes end of support date for Windows 10, anticipating Faithlife announcement about Windows 10 end of support: maybe 10 months earlier than the end date this time [;)]
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Floyd Johnson said:
Of course, the other issue is how long will LOGOS support Windows 10? Will they target the same 2025 date as Microsoft?
It will depend on customer adoption of Windows 11 (and probably also on many other consumer technology developments in the next four years), but we generally don't support running Logos on operating systems that have reached the manufacturer's end of life. (E.g., see our discontinuation of support for Windows 7: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/182626.aspx.)
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When Microsoft firmly establishes end of support date for Windows 10
It's already established: October 14, 2025.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro
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Kiyah said:
Glad they're supporting it until 2025.
It seems like they just want people to mindlessly rush right out and buy new hardware. Nope. lol
By the time that Windows 10 is no longer supported by Microsoft, the oldest processors qualified to run Windows 11 will be seven years old. Most people who use Windows machines replace them more often than that.
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SineNomine said:Kiyah said:
Glad they're supporting it until 2025.
It seems like they just want people to mindlessly rush right out and buy new hardware. Nope. lol
By the time that Windows 10 is no longer supported by Microsoft, the oldest processors qualified to run Windows 11 will be seven years old. Most people who use Windows machines replace them more often than that.
I think the same way as SineNomine but I do things in my own way. My desktop is now over 8 years old and if nothing drastic happens I'll buy a new one in 2025. I bought my laptop in 2017 and will use it until it dies (or I). I tend to buy top level hardware and I need some special peripherals and software and special setup, thus I does not make sense to scrap it every third year. So it looks like I'll be destined to be one step behind in the operating system version or in the Logos version. Fortunately most of the incompatibility introduced with the new versions is artificial (business based), not functional.
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SineNomine said:Kiyah said:
Glad they're supporting it until 2025.
It seems like they just want people to mindlessly rush right out and buy new hardware. Nope. lol
By the time that Windows 10 is no longer supported by Microsoft, the oldest processors qualified to run Windows 11 will be seven years old. Most people who use Windows machines replace them more often than that.
My ThinkPad will be 5 years old in August and I'm hoping not to need to replace it any time soon. It works great and doesn't feel old at all.
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My Dell Optip[lez has TPM 1.2 my other two laptop and my HP all-in-One doesn't have it. My HP has secure boot. I think it is wrong to require all this. Making tons of people buy new computer for what so Microsoft partners get rich?
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I think many people here (and in the industry) have not been reading enough to truly understand what Microsoft is up to here.
With Windows 11, Microsoft is committing to SECURE (make impenetrable, lock down) the computing experience from mobile device through desktop through servers to the cloud. That's a HUGE COMMITMENT and a significant statement that the industry will be watching closely.
This doesn't just mean viruses and malware, it means ransomware, attacks during boot time, and other sophisticated attacks from nation-states that you can find out about. This is frankly vitally important not only for end users but corporations, government, and more. IMHO it is time that this gets locked down for good, and no longer suffers from some user in the basement of a corporation taking down the power grid because they clicked on a link on an old PC. Society needs to get past that for its own preservation. Windows 8 computers powering our electricity grid won't survive the next 10 years.
To do this today, TPM 2.0 is required (among other things, like secure boot not legacy/BIOS booting). This kind of commitment to security and performance is not possible without hardware advancement. And the days of just boosting the CPU and maybe the GPU have been over for a long time - people have learned from Qualcomm, Apple, and others that complex Systems on a Chip are the architecture of the day.
Organizations and corporations that care about their security, cloud data, performance etc., will buy computers with the right hardware if they believe Microsoft is delivering on this promise.
As an aside, I have read that Windows 11 will ultimately work on computers running TPM 1.2, so more is to be learned about this in the upcoming months. But make no mistake, this is a sea change in priorities for Microsoft, no longer prioritizing installed base.
The second big issue requiring a higher level of hardware is performance. Computing needs are significantly growing, with enhanced communications, mobile use, VR, simulations, massive data calculation, cloud computing, (and security), and more coming. A strategy of massive OS adoption won't work when such a large percentage of Windows computers can't support security, performance, and graphic computing horsepower needed by many. People may say "I don't need it". But what is Microsoft to do? If they advertise "Massive upgrade in secure, high powered performance computing with Windows 11", they better deliver it - or the user complaints will be loud.
As another note - Microsoft has not upgraded the minimum requirements to run Windows since 2009. Do we really think the advanced hardware-software designs, needs and requirements will work on a population of computers with such low capabilities these days?
So Microsoft is bifurcating its strategy. How is Microsoft handling all this?
- If you insist in using an older computer that isn't capable of doing what the state of the art will offer in the next 5 years, stay on Windows 10. It will be supported. There will be upgrades. If Microsoft had continued with their prior strategy of not changing the version number and just continuing to do 3 upgrades a year, people would have never known the difference. Until 2025, your life (and Windows support) will be no different than it was in the past. And if the past is any indication, the final support date will be pushed later than 2025 as we get closer - just a hunch.
- If you want/need the security, performance etc. that is possible with state of the art hardware enhancements that exist today and in the future, get a PC that has those hardware advancements and upgrade to Windows 11.
Both Windows 10 and Windows 11 customers will be fully supported citizens in the Microsoft world. You just can't get some of what Windows 11 will offer on old hardware. That doesn't mean your computing experience will be worse with Windows 10.
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While I was in the software industry, and we felt that our software is slow, difficult to use, and buggy, we joked that it is because of the security features (joking among us, but not with customers).
In the cell phone industry there was quite extensive intentional incompatibility: each phone had a different charger with a specific connector.
The car industry in the 1950s and 1960s or so advertised new models with wonderfully new technology every year ...
Based on my own experience and on the known history, I don't feel terribly enthusiastic ...
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Randall Lind said:
My Dell Optip[lez has TPM 1.2 my other two laptop and my HP all-in-One doesn't have it. My HP has secure boot. I think it is wrong to require all this. Making tons of people buy new computer for what so Microsoft partners get rich?
I don’t know anything about your personal situation, so I won’t say “all you have to do is XXX.”
But Windows 10 will be supported until 2025. So, it’s possible you would need to replace your current machine by then. (Of course, if you are a person who builds his own computers, I don’t know what you would do about upgrading/replacing in the first place).
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I don't believe in buying a new computer for windows. My Dell optiplex is nicee and fast and runs Logos nice and fast. Logos just needs to make a Linux version. I would go back to Linuxmint in a heartbeat.
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Randall Lind said:
I don't believe in buying a new computer for windows. My Dell optiplex is nicee and fast and runs Logos nice and fast. Logos just needs to make a Linux version. I would go back to Linuxmint in a heartbeat.
Not what I meant. I meant, given the lifespan of an average computer, 10 should be covered until your machine needs to be replaced unless you build your own machine. In which case, I don’t know.
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I used to build my own but sincee I don't game I normally just get a new computer at a pawnshop or off Amazon.
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Randall Lind said:
I used to build my own but sincee I don't game I normally just get a new computer at a pawnshop or off Amazon.
Can we buy a used computer that can use Windows 11? What specs do I shop for in order to guarantee that a machine (new or used) can run Windows 11?
Blessings,
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I was going to post a new message for this same topic. I was able to test Logos on a testing laptop (Thinpak X1 Yoga), running Windows 11 and I can tell you that it runs fine, no problems at all. Now, I don't have one of those super expensive Logos libraries, I just have the Logos 8 full feature set bilingual (all the datasets and databases in english and spanish), and the books that I've being carrying on since I began with libronix and logos 4 after that. I upgraded to the free Logos 9 engine though. So I don't know if that's gonna make a difference for those of you that have one of the newest Logos 9 super libraries. So you can take my word, Logos does work on Windows 11. By the way the computer were I installed Windows 11 was deemed incompatible by the PC Health tool provided by Microsoft, so I had to recur to the trick of replacing the appraiserres.dll file in the Windows 11 ISO, with the same file from a Windows 10 ISO.
Then I checked my personal laptop computer (Thinkpad E570), that have an Intel i7 8700u (kabelake) CPU, with 16 Gb of Ram, a 256 SSD drive and a 1 Tb HDD and to my surprise the Windows PC health check tool told me that it is not compatible with Windows 11. I read that one requirement for Windows 11 is to have TPM 2.0 and secure boot active in the UEFI/BIOS. Checked and I have both, so I made sure to have them activated, ran the tool again and now it says that my CPU is not compatible with Windows 11... What!?!? Minimum requirement for CPU is to have 2 cores and 64bit architecture but for some reason Microsoft doesn't like my i7 Kabe lake. Not only that but I read that if you are using a laptop Microsoft is forcing you to have a web cam capable to adjust the brightness, so no webcam no Windows 11. I can tell you, my laptop is in pristine condition working flawlessly, for me to buy a new laptop is not a good act of stewardship. It upsets me when a company twist your arm to buy new equipment and software with an immoral forced obsolescence practice. Sadly Faithlife is not excluded, I'm was very happy with the smartphone that I bought back in 2014 running Android Kit Kat (5.0), but Logos forced the minimum of Android version 7 in order to use the app. Problem was that my phone no longer had official updates so I had to root it and re-image it with an open source Android image (LinageOS), in order to use the Logos app and until this day I'm still using the same smartphone no problem whatsoever.
All the software that I use in my laptop is open source, there is only one commercial software that force me to use Windows... you got it... Logos. So I cannot install Linux because of that. I've been told that Logos with WINE is problematic.
Oh and by the way for those of you like me that dislike that new awful look of Windows 11 start menu and task bar buttons in the middle (that looks like an ugly Macintosh), don't sweat... from settings you can tell Windows 11 to move the start menu button and task buttons to the left (where they should be), and by adding a dword32 key in the registry HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced, you can make the start menu to look like the Windows 10 start menu. I did it and it works beautiful. Not that I liked Windows 10 GUI anyways, Windows 7 in classic mode was the pinnacle of the GUI environments.
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You will need to find a used machine in a pawnshop running Windows 11 or figure out if it has support for TPM 2.0 in the CPU. Microsoft first says TPM 1.2 on their site then now it only 2.0. My Optiplex does 1.2. I have a Dell laptop and an HP all-in-one that doesn't support TPM. Now if you build your computers you may have a TPM 2.0 plug on your motherboard and then all you need is a plug-in adaptor. I know nothing about TPM just that for some reason Microsoft wants to have your computer locked down.
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Randall Lind said:
You will need to find a used machine in a pawnshop running Windows 11 or figure out if it has support for TPM 2.0 in the CPU. Microsoft first says TPM 1.2 on their site then now it only 2.0. My Optiplex does 1.2. I have a Dell laptop and an HP all-in-one that doesn't support TPM. Now if you build your computers you may have a TPM 2.0 plug on your motherboard and then all you need is a plug-in adaptor. I know nothing about TPM just that for some reason Microsoft wants to have your computer locked down.
But even as I look at the specs for new computers, I see no mention of TPM.
Blessings,
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it is listed on this page https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications
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If you haven't already, get an SSD. That will cut your Logos start time from 30 to 10 or 15 seconds, maybe less depending on your resources. It's a night and day difference.
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that's my next upgrade on My logos PC.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I understand that the new Win 11 will only support certain hardware that has the TPM chip. My current Laptop is therefore not supported. Support for Win 10 will also be discontinued in 2025. The conclusion is that I should either buy new hardware or switch to another os that is supported by my current device. I saved two years to buy this device and can't afford to replace it. I really take good care of my electronic devices and they last very long.
I'm supporting Logos because it's the best Bible Software and Company in the world. But, the future will force me to use the webapp. I don't like this option because the webapp is not an option as it requires me to be on the internet.
The future as I see it currently will force me to switch to linux and end my support for Logos Software. This will be a waste as I invested a lot of my private finances to continue using this Software and serve the Lord's body here on earth.
Microsoft seem to force companies to their knees with this new security philosophy, they just don't know it yet. I'll probably start to disconnect my laptop completely from the internet and only use offline features. I won't be buying upgrades and start to lookout for free Bible Software supported by linux. This is very bad because I write about 350+ sermons a year in Logos. I'll need to export everything. There is probably a lot of users out there that doesn't comment on their perseption of this issue. Maybe they are not using Logos to it's full potential and won't mind to switch to other software. They will just suddenly dissapear because just like me they can't afford this financial beast that is standing up in the near future.
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read Why Windows 11 is forcing everyone to use TPM chips (msn.com) before panicking ... there is a fair chance your setup is fine.
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Y'all are thinking and worrying way too much about something that hasn't happened yet. Windows ver. 10 will be supported till 2025 at least (how many times did they extend support for XP?) and it won't stop working immediately after that. Meanwhile, a meteorite could hit the earth by then or the 'coof version Delta Epsilon Pro Max could kills us all or who knows?
Meanwhile Bradly G. says no one has even seen an Insider Preview yet. It's way too early to get worked up about this. Time would be more productively spent complaining about the Store button or complaining about the complaints about the Store button or speculating with astrological precision as to when L10 will release.
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If you just brought 2 years ago you should have TPM 2.0. You will just have to check in the bios and enable it. I am told if your computer is 2017 or newer no issue.
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It also came is could be into my mind this could be a good opportunity to move over to Linux.
A simple operating system and the basic software should be available to everyone as a human right.
Then those who want and need to, could join the commercial version and hardware update race.
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Veli Voipio said:
It also came is could be into my mind this could be a good opportunity to move over to Linux.
A simple operating system and the basic software should be available to everyone as a human right.
Then those who want and need to, could join the commercial version and hardware update race.
Of course that will bring more people to the “Why doesn’t FL make a Linux version of Logos?” threads [;)]
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Veli Voipio said:
It also came is could be into my mind this could be a good opportunity to move over to Linux.
A simple operating system and the basic software should be available to everyone as a human right.
Then those who want and need to, could join the commercial version and hardware update race.
How does Logos work on let say Linux Mint. This is the only Linux OS I like. I am a very simple person all I do is surf for the most part. I do use Quicken and Logos software but that's about it.
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